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After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slavery

Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

You actually used these two in the same sentence? You're just making **** up now. Show me where Ron Paul is against civil rights.

Only the civil rights of people who do not share his racist beliefs.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Several reasons,

Although, looks to me like it was mostly Southern non-slaveowners who were fighting for the Union.

Where do you people come up with this crap? :lamo
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Let me try and explain this to you, although any reasonable history text book would do the same (except for Texas, where they're re-writing history books to reflect the secessionist viewpoint). Here goes"

The South fought the war to preserve slavery. The North fought the war to preserve the Union. I'd suggest you print this and put it somewhere where you can read it every day.

No, they didn't. There was a movement in the Confederate Army to free the slaves led by Pat Cleburne and supported by thomas Jackson and Robert E. Lee. When General Jackson addressed the 33rd Virginia about secession, he never mentioned slavery. At Gettysburg, right before Pickett's Charge, when General Armistead inspired his soldiers he said, "Virginians! Virginians! For your land - for your homes - for your sweethearts - for your wives - for Virginia!". Nothing there about, "for the preservation of slavery". Gee, I wonder why?

No, my friend, I have read the history books and you won't find anything, anywhere that proves that hundreds of thousands of southern men--white and black--enlisted in the Confederate Army and Navy for the soul purpose of preserving slavery.

There's far more historical documentation that disproves the notion than there is that supports it.

Maybe you can keep reading the crap history that calamity reads, that claims that non-slaver southerners made up the majority of Federal soldiers fighting in the Civil War. Have fun with that one! :lamo
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Ah. Now it was the Confederates who wanted to free the slaves. :lol:

The Right Wing's alternative universe is definitely expanding. First we have the Democrats as racists; now we have Confederates as the abolishonists. I really don't know what to say. The bubble is obviously strong over there.

Lets just say this: if the Wingnut alternative history is true, why did it take Mississippi an extra 148 years to ratify the 13th? Too busy fighting racist democrats and union insurgencies?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Maybe you can keep reading the crap history that calamity reads, that claims that non-slaver southerners made up the majority of Federal soldiers fighting in the Civil War. Have fun with that one! :lamo

You're being obtuse or purposely taking what i said out of context. I clearly meant a majority of Southerners who fought against the Confederates were non-slaveholders. This was a direct response to your post, arguing that slaveholders were the ones fighting for the union.

The alternative universe, I guess taking statements out of context helps solidify the delusions.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Maybe our wingnut friends can explain why we don't really need the 13th Amendment, and that Mississippi was just defending liberty by not ratifying what is clearly a Union Conspiracy to take away our Rights.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Ron Paul has said he was not in favor of the 1964 Civil Rights Act as it applied to private businesses.

Ron Paul Says He Would Have Voted Against Civil Rights Act - COLORLINES

Do you ever bother to do any research before you post your knee jerk defense of right wing bull****?

Do you? It's never that simple with Ron Paul. You're the knee jerk reactor.

because of its infringement on private property rights. He said that while he would favor repealing Jim Crow laws, the United States “would be better off” without government intruding on and policing personal lives. When Chris Matthews pressed the issue, asking if it should be legal for shop owners to not allow blacks, Paul responded, “That’s ancient history. That’s over and done with.”
You know that segregation was already on its way out, and the law didn't suddenly change everyone's mind. Why don't you do some research before trying to paint Ron Paul as being against civil rights.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Only the civil rights of people who do not share his racist beliefs.

Have a bucket of fail, you earned it.

:failpail:
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Do you? It's never that simple with Ron Paul. You're the knee jerk reactor.


You know that segregation was already on its way out and the law didn't suddenly change everyone's mind. Why don't you do some research before trying to paint Ron Paul as being against civil rights.
So Rosa Parks never needed to make a stand by sitting in the front of the bus? The Southern Gentlemen were about to hand their seat over to her anyway. :lol:

MLK had no reason to march in Selma. Bull Connor was only giving the Blacks a bath with those firehoses?

Talk about "fail". That has to be the stupidest comment in all the posts I've seen during all the years I've debated Southern apologists.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

You mean like David Duke, a former
Republican candidate for Governor of Louisiana? But if your point is that Conservative southern racists dominated southern politics, you get no argument from me. They used ot be Democrats, now they're Republicans.

No, THEY use to be DixieCrats, and now theyr'e Democrats. They just put their sheets away in favor of building massive voter farms and enabling generational Dependency.

You guys call the South racist, but whats the unemployment rate for blacks under Obama.

A Democrat by any other name is still a democrat.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

So Rosa Parks never needed to make a stand by sitting in the front of the
bus? The Southern Gentlemen were about to hand their seat over to her anyway. :lol:

MLK had no reason to march in Selma. Bull Connor was only giving the Blacks a bath with those firehoses?

Talk about "fail". That has to be the stupidest comment in all the posts I've seen during all the years I've debated Southern apologists.

Yes, the Democrats sicked dogs and fierhoses on blacks in the 60's.

Then they fillibustered the voting rights act, then built massive complexes to hold generations of dependent blacks.

You keep talking, but history is not on your side.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Yes, the Democrats sicked dogs and fierhoses on blacks in the 60's.

Then they fillibustered the voting rights act, then built massive complexes to hold generations of dependent blacks.

You keep talking, but history is not on your side.
Ah, another one who thinks the Southern Democrats of yesteryear are the same as the Democrats of Today. You just keep denying that all the racists who used to vote for Democrats down South turned to the Republicans after the "Southern Strategy" was implemented.

Why haven't you addressed the Southern Strategy in any of your posts. It's been brought up at least a half-dozen times in direct response to the nonsense you're posting. Are you running from it?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Ah, another one who thinks the Southern Democrats of yesteryear are the same
as the Democrats of Today. You just keep denying that all the racists who used to vote for Democrats down South turned to the Republicans after the "Southern Strategy" was implemented.

Why haven't you addressed the Southern Strategy in any of your posts. It's been brought up at least a half-dozen times in direct response to the nonsense you're posting. Are you running from it?

The " Southern Stretegy" is all you have ? Lol...

Under the tutelage of the Democrats and Democrat policies are Black communities better off under Obama ?

Whats the unemployment rate for young black males ? Ive asked you twice already.

Cabrini Green, Robert Taylor Homes, QueensRidge......

Thats your ideolgies doing, not mine while you call everyone a racist.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

The " Southern Stretegy" is all you have ? Lol...

Under the tutelage of the Democrats and Democrat policies are Black communities better off under Obama ?

Whats the unemployment rate for young black males ? Ive asked you twice already.

Cabrini Green, Robert Taylor Homes, QueensRidge......

Thats your ideolgies doing, not mine while you call everyone a racist.
Better to keep 'em in the cotton fields. Eh? That is what this thread is about: Slavery and Mississippi not ratifying the 13th Amendment until well into the Y2K's.

BTW: I love how Southerners point to some of the race-related problems up North to justify their abhorrent past. Nobody's buying though.

And, the economic mess is certainly not Barack Obama's doing. Were you asleep from 2001 through 2009?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

No, everything after the Tenth Amendment violates the Bill of Rights... None of it is legal.

State rights are supreme - if those liberties weren't, then the Tenth Amendment wouldn't exist.

Yes, Kennedy sending the National Guard into Mississippi in 1963 violated Mississippi's right to murder civil rights workers. Sheesh.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Do you? It's never that simple with Ron Paul. You're the knee jerk reactor.


You know that segregation was already on its way out, and the law didn't suddenly change everyone's mind. Why don't you do some research before trying to paint Ron Paul as being against civil rights.


Jeez, can you read? Ron Paul was against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He puts property rights above Civil Rights. Ron Paul is still against Civil Rights, and there's not a doubt in any reasonable person's mind that Paul would repeal it if he had the chance.

How does it feel to be totally wrong?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Better to keep 'em in the cotton fields. Eh? That is what this thread is about:
Slavery and Mississippi not ratifying the 13th Amendment until well into the Y2K's.

BTW: I love how Southerners point to some of the race-related problems up North to justify their abhorrent past. Nobody's buying though.

And, the economic mess is certainly not Barack Obama's doing. Were you asleep from 2001 through 2009?

Yea you brought them out of the cotton fields, sicked dogs on them, burned crosses in their yards and then put them in housing developments.

Southerners are exponentially smarter than their freeze drizd brained Liberal brothers up North. WE didn't vote for a guy because the media told us to

And 2001-2009 ? No try 1992 to 2007 and more accurately 1992 to 2000 as Clinton, Cisneros, Rains, Frank, Cuomo and Dodd fleeced the American tax payer for trillions and caused a market collapse at the same time.

HUDs policies to force the GSEs to buy up trash loans wasn't Bush's. It was part of Clintons 1994 Home Ownership Strategy....

You need to read up a bit if your'e going to try and blame this on Bush who from 2002 to 2007 tried to get a handle on the GSEs but to no avail.

Democrat Congress and all.

So try again. Obama watched the greatest bubble ever wash out 6 trillion out of the market and what did he do ?

He passed the most destructive law ever concieved. ObamaCare. Oh and he passed stimulus which paid back his public union buddies and wasted billions on now bankrupt green emergy companies.

He owns this mess.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

So Rosa Parks never needed to make a stand by sitting in the front of the bus? The Southern Gentlemen were about to hand their seat over to her anyway. :lol:

MLK had no reason to march in Selma. Bull Connor was only giving the Blacks a bath with those firehoses?

Talk about "fail". That has to be the stupidest comment in all the posts I've seen during all the years I've debated Southern apologists.

That is certainly the implication if you're a hyperbolist. But since Rosa Parks sat down up front about 9 years before the law was passed, I think we can assume that I didn't mean that. Are you telling me blacks never sat at the counter prior to the law being passed? Times were changing, there is no doubt. I didn't say it was over. But the law didn't change people's hearts and minds.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

That is certainly the implication if you're a hyperbolist. But since Rosa Parks sat down up front about 9 years before the law was passed, I think we can assume that I didn't mean that. Are you telling me blacks never sat at the counter prior to the law being passed? Times were changing, there is no doubt. I didn't say it was over. But the law didn't change people's hearts and minds.

I was there when itwas happening and blacks were not permitted to sit at the counters.











Eateries had a take out window for blacks. They were not allowed inside.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

That is certainly the implication if you're a hyperbolist. But since Rosa Parks sat down up front about 9 years before the law was passed, I think we can assume that I didn't mean that. Are you telling me blacks never sat at the counter prior to the law being passed? Times were changing, there is no doubt. I didn't say it was over. But the law didn't change people's hearts and minds.
That was obvious. The bigots in the South squealed like stuck pigs for years when LBJ rammed that legislation through. In fact, they squealed so much, the GOP found an opportunity and implemented the "Southern Strategy".

Thanks for making my case.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Yea you brought them out of the cotton fields, sicked dogs on them, burned crosses in their yards and then put them in housing developments.

Southerners are exponentially smarter than their freeze drizd brained Liberal brothers up North. WE didn't vote for a guy because the media told us to

And 2001-2009 ? No try 1992 to 2007 and more accurately 1992 to 2000 as Clinton, Cisneros, Rains, Frank, Cuomo and Dodd fleeced the American tax payer for trillions and caused a market collapse at the same time.

HUDs policies to force the GSEs to buy up trash loans wasn't Bush's. It was part of Clintons 1994 Home Ownership Strategy....

You need to read up a bit if your'e going to try and blame this on Bush who from 2002 to 2007 tried to get a handle on the GSEs but to no avail.

Democrat Congress and all.

So try again. Obama watched the greatest bubble ever wash out 6 trillion out of the market and what did he do ?

He passed the most destructive law ever concieved. ObamaCare. Oh and he passed stimulus which paid back his public union buddies and wasted billions on now bankrupt green emergy companies.

He owns this mess.

Yeah, you all gave us "W". Tells me all I need to know about who's "exponentially smarter".

BTW, if you all are so proud of Bush, why didn't you invite him to your convention? Yeah. Oops.


Too bad you guys can never admit when you are wrong. That to me seems half the problem, right there.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

That was obvious. The bigots in the South
squealed like stuck pigs for years when LBJ rammed that legislation through. In fact, they squealed so much, the GOP found an opportunity and implemented the "Southern Strategy".

Thanks for making my case.

It wouldn't be a full day if you didn't call at least one person a racist.

But which party's policies have led to the blacks poverty and high unemployment and generational welfare ?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Yeah, you all gave us "W". Tells me all I need
to know about who's "exponentially
smarter".

BTW, if you all are so proud of Bush, why didn't you invite him to your convention? Yeah. Oops.


Too bad you guys can never admit when you are wrong. That to me seems half the problem, right there.


Lol....after 8 years of you guys calling Bush a idiot and a incompetent, what did you do ?

You elected an ACTUAL idiot and incompetent.

Nice
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

That was obvious. The bigots in the South squealed like stuck pigs for years when LBJ rammed that legislation through. In fact, they squealed so much, the GOP found an opportunity and implemented the "Southern Strategy".

Thanks for making my case.

Are you 'sainting' LBJ? Let's not forget that Johnson as a congressman voted against legislation banning lynching, and eliminating poll taxes, and for denying federal funding of segregated schools. Political expediency is a wonderful thing for demo's isn't it?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Are you 'sainting' LBJ? Let's not forget that Johnson as a congressman voted against legislation banning lynching, and eliminating poll taxes, and for denying federal funding of segregated schools. Political expediency is a wonderful thing for demo's isn't it?

They seem to believe that creating hundreds of social programs is the equivalent of allowing people to be free and independent.
 
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