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After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slavery

Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

How do you believe an 1860's Republican differs from a 2012 Republican?

Well, 1860 Republicans clearly believed in a strong federal government and states subservient to that government. Almost exactly the opposite of today..
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

And what does that tell you?

Want to become a politician--slap an R behind your name, don a sheet, and run for office in one of the former Confederate States?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Well, 1860 Republicans clearly believed in a strong federal government and states subservient to that government. Almost exactly the opposite of today..

But would that have been true if State Rights had not included slavery? Perhaps not.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

But would that have been true if State Rights had not included slavery? Perhaps not.


There there was the "Free Soil, Free Men, Free Labor" segment of the ante-bellum Republican Party. It was part of the original party platform that free men were to be given free land in the western states, never mind those uncivilised natives who were already living there.

Do you think the modern GOP would support giving away land to unemployed people? With the stipulation that they had to live on the land and try to farm for five to seven years.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

There there was the "Free Soil, Free Men, Free Labor" segment of the ante-bellum Republican Party. It was part of the original party platform that free men were to be given free land in the western states, never mind those uncivilised natives who were already living there.

Do you think the modern GOP would support giving away land to unemployed people? With the stipulation that they had to live on the land and try to farm for five to seven years.

Are there still those 'wide open spaces' existing in the USA as there was 150 years ago?

Yoy might consider the proposition that political slogans might change with the times.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Are there still those 'wide open spaces' existing in the USA as there was 150 years ago?

Yoy might consider the proposition that political slogans might change with the times.


So "Free Land" was just a 'slogan'? And not a rather important difference between the thinking of the GOP at its inception and the corporate-favoring 21st C. GOP
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

So "Free Land" was just a 'slogan'? And not a rather important difference between the thinking of the GOP at its inception and the corporate-favoring 21st C. GOP

I'm feel quite certain that you have a real connection between the slogan of yesterday and the GOP of today.

Why not share it with us not and get the suspense over with?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

:roll:
The entire point of a tread of this nature is that liberals have lists of things that they are told to hate. When things that are on the Hate List are mentioned, the loon's estrogen/emotion generator kicks in and they feel hate and as we all know, when loons feel something, it must be expressed immediately and any nearby loons must be rallied to join the braying.

Mississippi is on that Liberal Hate List so that is why we have a thread of this nature desperately searching for a reason for existence, yet filled with directionless emotion. Topics such as this, while pointless to normal people, are immensely satisfying to the ever bleating loons. This is part of their unusual, but fascinating, pathology.

Oh no! The evil liberals are to blame again! Help me!:shock:
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

I'm feel quite certain that you have a real connection between the slogan of yesterday and the GOP of today.

Why not share it with us not and get the suspense over with?

Hey I'm not the poster who incessantly ties a political party of yesteryear with the same party today. Just providing a bit of context for real history instead of ideology.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Hey I'm not the poster who incessantly ties a political party of yesteryear with the same party today. Just providing a bit of context for real history instead of ideology.

Of course you did though.

No matter.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

:roll:

Oh no! The evil liberals are to blame again! Help me!:shock:
I know. Right. Liberals are blamed for bringing it up, and the Democrats are the real evil racists. Republicans are the avenging angels of both slavery and Jim Crow. Blacks should all be voting GOP.

The bubble is strong in this thread.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

I know. Right. Liberals are blamed for bringing it up, and the Democrats are the real evil racists. Republicans are the avenging angels of both slavery and Jim Crow. Blacks should all be voting GOP.

The bubble is strong in this thread.

Mississippi has more black legislators than any other state. Why weren't they taking action on this issue a long time ago?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Mississippi has more black legislators than any other state. Why weren't they taking action on this issue a long time ago?

I give up. Why?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Well, 1860 Republicans clearly believed in a strong federal government and states subservient to that government. Almost exactly the opposite of today..

There is a very big difference between a strong federal government and an over-bearing, over-reaching, over-sized, inefficient federal government.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Mississippi has more black legislators than any other state. Why weren't they taking action on this issue a long time ago?

Do they constitute a majority? and why should only black legislators care about this?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

There is a very big difference between a strong federal government and an over-bearing, over-reaching, over-sized, inefficient federal government.

Yeah. Keep telling yourself that. That was the battle cry in the south during the 50's and 60's, when the 'over-bearing, over-reaching' federal government told them it was time to stop lynching blacks and to allow them to vote and to attend state universities.

By the way, that's the 1950's and 1960's, not the 1850's and 60's.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Trying to take federal oversight out of states with a history of denying Blacks the right to vote is pretty darned blatant. Now, I suspect that conservatives will argue that states like Mississippi and Alabama would never ever do anything to deny Blacks to the right to vote. Which, of course, doesn't pass the smell test.

Calamity - making claims like that really tells me that you have no faith in the black community, and feel without help from the federal government - the black community would never survive. I guess you believe the black community isn't nearly as smart as you are.

It's funny you referenced Alabama on top of Mississippi. I couldn't find current numbers, but as of 2009 Mississippi and Alabama were ranked #2 and #3 in the number of black legislators, right behind #1 which was Georgia. You think they would deny their own constituents the right to vote?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Calamity - making claims like that really tells me that you have no faith in the black community, and feel without help from the federal government - the black community would never survive. I guess you believe the black community isn't nearly as smart as you are.

It's funny you referenced Alabama on top of Mississippi. I couldn't find current numbers, but as of 2009 Mississippi and Alabama were ranked #2 and #3 in the number of black legislators, right behind #1 which was Georgia. You think they would deny their own constituents the right to vote?

You are making things up about his post, imho.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Do they constitute a majority? and why should only black legislators care about this?

Why weren't the black legislators bringing this to the forefront? My point being, maybe they had bigger fish to fry than waste time worrying about an issue that's more symbolic than anything else and has zero to do with the real world problems faced by the poorest state in the union.

Another point, is why are we screaming "racism" but only applying it to the white legislators and giving the black legislators a free pass? Is this just another chance to stereotype southern whites, or flat out hypocrisy?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

I give up. Why?

Why aren't you asking that question? You don't seem to mind pissing up a rope when you thought that every legislator in Mississippi was white.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Trying to take federal oversight out of states with a history of denying Blacks the right to vote is pretty darned blatant. Now, I suspect that conservatives will argue that states like Mississippi and Alabama would never ever do anything to deny Blacks to the right to vote. Which, of course, doesn't pass the smell test.

Kinda like when white voters were intimidated in Philidelphia by racist blacks and the DOJ ignored it. Right?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Why weren't the black legislators bringing this to the forefront? My point being, maybe they had bigger fish to fry than waste time worrying about an issue that's more symbolic than anything else and has zero to do with the real world problems faced by the poorest state in the union.

Another point, is why are we screaming "racism" but only applying it to the white legislators and giving the black legislators a free pass? Is this just another chance to stereotype southern whites, or flat out hypocrisy?

The only black racists I've seen are republican, Toms.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Why aren't you asking that question? You don't seem to mind pissing up a rope when you thought that every legislator in Mississippi was white.

How do you know what I thought. BTW, yer wrong, again.
 
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