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After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slavery

Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Fenton said:
EVERYTHING that involces the criticizing of your elected idiots is racist apparently.

Its all you have ! A make believe narrative ! You dont have any successes so you sit back, dredge up the empty and useless platitudes, ignore your own parties racist history and current racism and call people racist.

Yea you people called Bush every name in the book, made up things to criticize him for and two can play at that game.

Its pathetic, cowardly and blatant. Your known for it.

You people elected him. Hell apparently some of you votes multiple times to elect him. So dont blame us for his failures.
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1) Personally, I did not call Bush "every name in the book". I thought it was wrong when the left did it, and said so. I'm guessing you don't have a problem with Obama being called "every name in the book", though, so I actually DO act on principal and make sure mine are universal and apply across the board;

2) What did anyone make up to criticize him over? Being a Kenyan, terrorist-fist-bumping Muslim Marxist socialist who murdered Vincent Foster?

3) The GOP has a very serious racism problem. Rather than reacting emotionally and like a 5 year old, how about addressing and trying to fix the problem instead?

Just a suggestion. doubt you'll even hear it.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Fenton said:
I Hell apparently some of you votes multiple times to elect him. So dont blame us for his failures.
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Who blames you for Obama's failures? We credit him with successes, which you call failures, OR, if you absolutely can't, like OBL's getting whacked, you credit someone, anyone else BUT Obama;

"apparently multiple times"?? Lemme guess: you read something. MUST be true since you WANT it to be true! Good enough for Republicans and conservatives!

Anyhoo, you guys have five white old men on the Supreme Court pick our presidents for us, nary a CARE about who MORE Americans voted for. Popular vote v. 5 men in robes: Repubs: we'll go with the five men in robes because we're the real Americans and democracy spreaders!

Lol.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

calamity said:
A registered Republican, last time I looked.

So much for Democrats being the racists.
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Duke also ran as a Democrat in 1988, so according to your silly logic: So much for the Republicans being the racists.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

I fail to see the big deal. It (the amendment) was passed long ago. The remaining states passing it were more "feel good" actions than meaningful actions.

I don't think it (Mississippi making it official) is a bad thing, and I don't have any problem whatsoever with them doing it, but I don't think them taking so long is the negative that others imply, either.
 
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Danbury said:
1) Personally, I did not call Bush "every
name in the book". I thought it was wrong when the left did it, and said so. I'm guessing you don't have a problem with Obama being called "every name in the book", though, so I actually DO act on principal and make sure mine are universal and apply across the board;

2) What did anyone make up to criticize him over? Being a Kenyan, terrorist-fist-bumping Muslim Marxist socialist who murdered Vincent Foster?

3) The GOP has a very serious racism problem. Rather than reacting emotionally and like a 5 year old, how about addressing and trying to fix the problem instead?

Just a suggestion. doubt you'll even hear it.
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I criticize Obama over his policies, his adherance to a bankrupt ideology and his egocentric views.

Is he Kenyan ? Was he born their and fist bumped a witch doctor on his way out of his considerably mentally ill mother ? Who knows but also, who cares.

Your self assertion that the GOP has a racist problem does not make your accusations legitimate or relevent.

You libs are some kind of hypocritical to call us racist when over 95% of the black population votes for Obama....because of his color.
 
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Fenton said:
You actually linked to a disgusting progressive web site as evidence ?

Evidence of what ? That progressives are so ethically lacking that they too push the lie of GOP Racism ?

You link to another lying liberal where I've given multiple examples of Liberal Democrat racist policies and programs.
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wut?

Oh, I get it.

Facts have a liberal bias.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Danbury said:
Who blames you for Obama's failures? We
credit him with successes, which you
call failures, OR, if you absolutely can't, like OBL's getting whacked, you credit someone, anyone else BUT Obama;

"apparently multiple times"?? Lemme guess: you read something. MUST be true since you WANT it to be true! Good enough for Republicans and conservatives!

Anyhoo, you guys have five white old men on the Supreme Court pick our presidents for us, nary a CARE about who MORE Americans voted for. Popular vote v. 5 men in robes: Repubs: we'll go with the five men in robes because we're the real Americans and democracy spreaders!

Lol.
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Numerous individuals are already being investigated in Ohio right now for election fraud. More than one is a black female.

Its.one thing to be a complete moron and vote for him but to commit election fraud ?

I hope she goes to prison for a looong time.

Name one " success".

And you forgot Clarence Thomas. Are you racist or something ?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Fenton said:
I criticize Obama over his policies, his adherance to a bankrupt ideology and his egocentric views.

Is he Kenyan ? Was he born their and fist bumped a witch doctor on his way out of his considerably mentally ill mother ? Who knows but also, who cares.

Your self assertion that the GOP has a racist problem does not make your accusations legitimate or relevent.

You libs are some kind of hypocritical to call us racist when over 95% of the black population votes for Obama....because of his color.
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No, no. YOU said "you people" called Bush every name in the book. Are you of the impression that "you people" do NOT call Obama "every name in the book"? Or do you just believe it's different when that goes on?

Is he Kenyan? No. (you still don't know that?? Wow). Fist bumped a witch doctor while being birthed from his critically ill mother?? Well, so long as you're only critical of his policies.

Who cares? Republicans seem to care a lot! See: Donald Trump/Birther movement.

GOP having a racism problem is not a self-assertion, but it IS self-evident.

95% of blacks voted for Obama because of his skin color? Perhaps. But what were the percentages of blacks who voted for Clinton and Gore? 98%? 95%?

So YOUR believing the ONLY reason blacks voted for Obama is because of his skin color is in fact racist.

Fix your party. Seems like it's only Republicans who don't WANT to do so. EVeryone else is BEGGING you all to return to some semblance of sanity.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

radcen said:
I fail to see the big deal. It (the amendment) was passed long ago. The remaining
states passing it were more "feel good" actions than meaningful actions.

I don't think it (Mississippi making it official) is a bad thing, and I don't have any problem whatsoever with them doing it, but I don't think them taking so long is the negative that others imply, either.
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Its not, the Ops author posted a race baiting thread.

Its nkt like they have any thing positive to talk about.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Fenton said:
Numerous individuals are already being investigated in Ohio right now for election fraud. More than one is a black female.

Its.one thing to be a complete moron and vote for him but to commit election fraud ?

I hope she goes to prison for a looong time.

Name one " success".

And you forgot Clarence Thomas. Are you racist or something ?
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Numerous, huh? Wow. Being investigated, huh? Wow! MUST be true then!

In the meantime, you are absolutely correct to ignore all GOP organized election fraud, including jamming phone lines in NH on election day, handing out bogus fliers with the wrong date of the election on them, etc.

'Pubs: it's different when we ACTUALLY do it!

One success: OBL is dead. Oh, right, you guys either don't think that's a success OR it's "the SEALS" did that. Obama really was wrong, and we were wrong, to cheer him as he performed that "I got him!/Mission Accomplished" aircraft carrier landing! Btw, what was the military team that got Hussein? Don't know, huh? Me neither. All attention and praise was heaped on Bush.

Success: DOW is back at the record level of 14,000. Wait, that isn't Obama's doing, right?

Succeess: Jobs are being created, not shed. Wait....(fill in here with some convoluted argument)

Success: America's no longer reviled as we were under Bush and Cheney by our allies. Wait: false! Because I say so!

Success: The Washington Monthly - The Magazine - Obama’s Top 50 Accomplishments

Btw, what's up with you folks just SAYIN" stuff and believing it?

Clarence Thomas???? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I wouldn't be a-braggin' about Clarence Thomas if I were you.

That guy is really, really weird.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

calamity said:
wut?


Oh, I get it.

Facts have a liberal bias.
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No facts, just a desperate perpetuation of a liberal lie.

You know, its what you guys do.

the proof of your failure lies in the fact you cannot find any objective sources.

I can hardly wait for your next link.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Fenton said:
No facts, just a desperate perpetuation of a liberal lie.

You know, its what you guys do.

the proof of your failure lies in the fact you cannot find any objective sources.

I can hardly wait for your next link.
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Akin Suggests The Voting Rights Act Of 1965 Should Be Overturned

Rep. Todd Akin, the GOP’s candidate for U.S. Senate in Missouri, suggested in an interview that it was time to “look at or overturn” the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Asked directly if seminal federal civil rights legislation that prohibits discriminatory voting proceedures needed to be modified or scrapped, Akin said that states — not the federal government — should set voting rules.
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Source doesn't really matter when it's simply quoting one of your boyz.
 
Re: Mississippi just got around to ratifying the 13th Amendment.

PeteEU said:
So let me get this straight... you are more worried about me pointing out something wrong in America, than you are acknowledging said problem and being critical of said problem....

Let me ask you this.. are you not against such laws as I and others have pointed out? Are you for slavery and segregation? Why is it that you constantly attack people for pointing out bad things that right wingers have done in America, instead of say... hey you know what... you are right, this guy/thing/idea is idiotic and should be changed. Instead you and your fellow bedfellows continue to defend such things till you turn blue in the face.... why is that?
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Abraham Lincoln was a "right winger"???? Orville Faubus? George Wallace?

It seems clear you don't really understand what right wing and left wing means, same as 'middle of the road'. You appear to use the term for anything you consider 'bad'.
 
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haymarket said:
Were you under the delusion that you were living in Utopia and there were never any problems in our fair land?

Pretending that the roof does NOT have a hole in it only leads to both a wet head as well as ruined furniture and more problems. The ostrich defense is not so smart to employ in the real world where real people are impacted by real problems.
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Do you understand what a 'sense of proportion' means'?

Certainly the USA has had negatives in its history but to concentrate on America's past in which to find fault and not look at countries that right now are preaching war, hatreds, misogyny, etc. Instead the leftists will actually defend those countries , just as they have defended other murderous regimes.

During the Cold War the United States had to put up with the same craziness from the leftists while the most murderous movement in world history was killing and enslaving millions, and those attacks still continue, no matter how long ago in the past they may have occurred.

And for Europeans to criticize Americans when they have given birth to the most murderous regimes in world history goes well beyond the usual understanding of hypocrisy.
 
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Grant said:
Do you understand what a 'sense of proportion' means'?

During the Cold War the United States had to put up with the same craziness from the leftists while the most murderous movement in world history was killing and enslaving millions, and those attacks still continue, no matter how long ago in the past they may have occurred.
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Sure - would that involve understand that Nazism and Fascism which started WW2 ocurrred in the Thirties and Forties and not the Cold War era?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

up to 70 million dead is a whole lot of corpses!
 
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Danbury said:
You need to set the partisan warfare aside, get some history under your belt, and consider how every era has its own ethos and you have to look at each era from THAT perspective, not by conflating it with yours.

As for racism in terms of political party, referring back to make some point about the present is absurd. The FACT is, the GOP has a rather serious problem with racism, as does the US, and it's actually gotten worse over the last four years of Obama's presidency, and you'd best believe it is conservative angst that has risen to the surface.

Fix your OWN party. You're the only ones who can.
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You make these charges without any evidence at all, and that's just what leftists do.

It seems to be a good thing that the Democrats are finally beginning to acknowledge their decades of racism but now, instead of looking for remedies, they are now trying to make the claim that the Dems suddenly saw the light and the Republicans, for some unknown reason and after fighting racism for more than a century, suddenly and without notice, became the party of racists. This is pure craziness.

There is no evidence of this whatsoever, and it is the Democrats, just as their history demonstrates, who are always fixated on race rather than people.
 
Re: Mississippi just got around to ratifying the 13th Amendment.

haymarket said:
Sure - would that involve understand that Nazism and Fascism which started WW2 ocurrred in the Thirties and Forties and not the Cold War era?

World War II casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

up to 70 million dead is a whole lot of corpses!
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Right. More leftists groups. But the Cold War refers to Communists, the worst leftist group to date.
 
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Grant said:
Right. More leftists groups. But the Cold War refers to Communists, the worst leftist group to date.
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If you are one of the far right who insist upon labeling Nazism and Fascism as leftist ideologies, there is no point in discussing anything with you as it is a blatant denial of reality and history.

Quite frankly, I am sick and tired of being sick and tired how modern day righties try to pretend that past righties like the nazis and fascists were not on the same side of the spectrum because tey are bsy trying to score political points today.

Its disgusting and outright stupid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

Far-right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, anti-communism, and nativism.[7] Often, the term "far right" is applied to fascists and neo-Nazis,[8][9][10][11][12] and major elements of fascism have been deemed clearly far right, such as its belief that supposedly superior people have the right to dominate society while purging allegedly inferior elements, and — in the case of Nazism — genocide of people deemed to be inferior.[13] Claims that superior people should proportionally have greater rights than inferior people are sometimes associated with the far right.[14
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And if you are one of those who attack Wikipedia, please not that there ar footnoted references to the sources of the statements which can be examined in detail and depth.

7.^ Hilliard, Robert L. and Michael C. Keith, Waves of Rancor: Tuning in the Radical Right (Armonk,New York: M.E. Sharpe Inc., 1999, p.43
8.^ Carlisle, Rodney P., ed., The Encyclopedia of Politics: The Left and the Right, Volume 2: The Right (Thousand Oaks, California, United States; London, England; New Delhi, India: Sage Publications, 2005) p. 694.
9.^ Horst, Junginger, "The Study of Religion Under the Impact of Fascism" in Numen Book Series, vol. 117 (Brill, 2008) p. 273.
10.^ Griffin, Roger: "The Palingenetic Core of Fascism", Che cos'è il fascismo? Interpretazioni e prospettive di ricerche, Ideazione editrice, Rome, 2003 AH.Brookes.ac.uk
11.^ Stackleberg, Rodney Hitler's Germany, Routeledge, 1999, pp. 3-5
12.^ Eatwell, Roger: "A 'Spectral-Syncretic Approach to Fascism', The Fascism Reader, Routledge, 2003 pp 71–80 Books.google.com
13.^ Woshinsky, Oliver H., Explaining Politics: Culture, Institutions, and Political Behavior (Oxon, England; New York City, United States: Routledge, 2008) p. 156.
14.^ Oliver H. Woshinsky. Explaining Politics: Culture, Institutions, and Political Behavior. (Oxon, England; New York City, United States: Routledge, 2008) p. 155.


This kind of right wing revisionist nonsense is not worth wasting another moment upon.
 
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Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Danbury said:
Numerous, huh? Wow. Being investigated, huh? Wow! MUST be true then!


In the meantime, you are absolutely correct to ignore all GOP organized election fraud, including jamming phone lines in NH on election day, handing out bogus fliers with the wrong date of the election on them, etc.

'Pubs: it's different when we ACTUALLY do it!

One success: OBL is dead. Oh, right, you guys either don't think that's a success OR it's "the SEALS" did that. Obama really was wrong, and we were wrong, to cheer him as he performed that "I got him!/Mission Accomplished" aircraft carrier landing! Btw, what was the military team that got Hussein? Don't know, huh? Me neither. All attention and praise was heaped on Bush.

Success: DOW is back at the record level of 14,000. Wait, that isn't Obama's doing, right?

Succeess: Jobs are being created, not shed. Wait....(fill in here with some convoluted argument)

Success: America's no longer reviled as we were under Bush and Cheney by our allies. Wait: false! Because I say so!

Success: The Washington Monthly - The Magazine - Obama’s Top 50 Accomplishments

Btw, what's up with you folks just SAYIN" stuff and believing it?

Clarence Thomas???? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I wouldn't be a-braggin' about Clarence Thomas if I were you.

That guy is really, really weird.
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Wow, your'e one of the easiest libs I've had the pleasure of educating.

Yes, massive voter fraud in Ohio, Kayahoga County. Try accessing a real news site and not "Z-Facts" or MSNBC for a change.

Yea Bin Ladens dead and Obama spiked the football and millions of Americans are still unemployed with your President trying to legalize millions more to compete for jobs that arent there.

Funny you guys celebrate the water tourture now that was used and led to BinLadens where abouts.

THE DOW ??!! Hahahahahah...you show yourself to be a true Obama voter at least once in every one of your post.

You Libs are so limited to an ACTUAL success you are now celebrating the rich getting richer. Any way, back to your limited undwrstanding of our economic system.

The Dows at 14000 because Obamas Fed is injecting 85 billion dollars a month into bonds and MBS. ITS BEING FALSELY INFLATED BY A DESPERATE AND FOOLISH FED POLICY TO ATTEMPT TO KICK START A DYING ECONOMY.

You see, the Dows climb is indicative of a very serious situation that involves inflating our bond value and then pulling the rug out from under the bond market. you'll see, and you'll pathetically blame it on Bush.

Not that you understand whats happening, if you did you wouldn't be a Obama supporter.

Jobs ? Why do you guys always forget to mention the nearly 9 million jobs that have exited all together from the economy ? People that have given up ?

Forgot ? You wouldn't have forgotten under Bush.

You wouldnt have left off the 1 in 6 Americans in poverty, the disasterous unemployment rates for Black Americans. The 50 million people on food stamps. the rising cost of dependence in General. The shrinking GDP.

And Clarence Thomas ? What do you have against an actual successful black man ?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Grant said:
You make these charges without any evidence at all, and that's just what leftists do.

It seems to be a good thing that the Democrats are finally beginning to acknowledge their decades of racism but now, instead of looking for remedies, they are now trying to make the claim that the Dems suddenly saw the light and the Republicans, for some unknown reason and after fighting racism for more than a century, suddenly and without notice, became the party of racists. This is pure craziness.

There is no evidence of this whatsoever, and it is the Democrats, just as their history demonstrates, who are always fixated on race rather than people.
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You think there is no evidence of institutionalized racism in the GOP???


Wow. Are you serious? Or do you just have your head in the sand? That'd do it.
 
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Danbury said:
Btw, read "The Clinton Wars" and learn how the relentless pursuit to bring Bill Clinton down was rooted in racism.
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Ah, yes, Bill Clinton, the first Black President.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Fenton said:
Wow, your'e one of the easiest libs I've had the pleasure of educating.

Yes, massive voter fraud in Ohio, Kayahoga County. Try accessing a real news site and not "Z-Facts" or MSNBC for a change.

Yea Bin Ladens dead and Obama spiked the football and millions of Americans are still unemployed with your President trying to legalize millions more to compete for jobs that arent there.

Funny you guys celebrate the water tourture now that was used and led to BinLadens where abouts.

THE DOW ??!! Hahahahahah...you show yourself to be a true Obama voter at least once in every one of your post.

You Libs are so limited to an ACTUAL success you are now celebrating the rich getting richer. Any way, back to your limited undwrstanding of our economic system.

The Dows at 14000 because Obamas Fed is injecting 85 billion dollars a month into bonds and MBS. ITS BEING FALSELY INFLATED BY A DESPERATE AND FOOLISH FED POLICY TO ATTEMPT TO KICK START A DYING ECONOMY.

You see, the Dows climb is indicative of a very serious situation that involves inflating our bond value and then pulling the rug out from under the bond market. you'll see, and you'll pathetically blame it on Bush.

Not that you understand whats happening, if you did you wouldn't be a Obama supporter.

Jobs ? Why do you guys always forget to mention the nearly 9 million jobs that have exited all together from the economy ? People that have given up ?

Forgot ? You wouldn't have forgotten under Bush.

You wouldnt have left off the 1 in 6 Americans in poverty, the disasterous unemployment rates for Black Americans. The 50 million people on food stamps. the rising cost of dependence in General. The shrinking GDP.

And Clarence Thomas ? What do you have against an actual successful black man ?
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Well, you make some very astute points here, and considering the US started as soon as Obama became president...okay, okay, that's overstating it a bit...considering the US was a veritable Utopia because Obama got his hands on it and there was no poverty and everyone was employed, making fabulous wages with incredible benefits and no one was on foodstamps and people went on foodstamps only because obama became president and yes, any success of Obama is simply redifined as a failure...your'e right. No successes.

I have nothing against successful black people. I have a lot against Clarence Thomas, and it has nothing to do with the color of his skin. Or do you believe that a black man merely succeeding in terms of a paycheck and/or stature (whether deserved or not) is enough? THAT is racism.
 
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Danbury said:
You think there is no evidence of institutionalized racism in the GOP???


Wow. Are you serious? Or do you just have your head in the sand? That'd do it.
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Do you always make these charges without offering up any evidence for them? I'm really not interested in these juvenile responses.
 
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