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After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slavery

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Mr.Nick said:
No, everything after the Tenth Amendment violates the Bill of Rights... None of it is legal.

State rights are supreme - if those liberties weren't, then the Tenth Amendment wouldn't exist.
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Bzzzzt wrong!

When the Constitution is amended, it changes. That's it. Because the 13th Amendment is an Amendment to the Constitution, it changes the document. That is why there is a provision to amend it in the original, so that these things can be written into the Constitution. The 13th and all other Amendments are Constitutional because they are part of the Constitution, and therefore legal.

The 10th Amendment is not the supreme Amendment, and it does not prevent any other Amendments from being written in. It does prevent the Federal government from usurping state powers except as otherwise Constitutionally given to the Federal government. However, when an Amendment is passed and goes through the whole process, what the Amendment regulates is now written into the Constitution. If it gives more power to the Feds, then the 10th does not apply because those powers are now Constitutionally given to the Federal Government.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Fenton said:
Jim Crowe laws that were implemented by Democrats ? I mean you folks fillibustered the 1964 voting rights act.

You went from that to building voter farms and destroying black families by implementing policies that enabled generational dependence and decades of poverty crime and misery.

Because a democrat by any other name is still a democrat so be careful who you call racist.
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What a load. Should we hold the Republican party responsible for every position they've ever taken historically?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

calamity said:
1. The Southern Democrats of the 60's are the modern day Republicans. They
were cemented as a permanent Republican base by Nixon during the 1968 election using the Southern Strategy. LBJ lost the Southern Democrats to the GOP early on. See Barry Goldwater.

2. The Liberal Democrats of the 1970's did Blacks no favors. But, the GOP's attempts to overturn the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is as outright war on Blacks.

3. Republicans who stick to the party because of the name, regardless the level of damage the party caused the nation, are not to be admired. After W, the GOP deserved to be thrown out of office.
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Are you afflicted with something ?

I told you that a Democrat by any other name is still a Democrat.

Democrats fillibustered the 1964 civil rights act, not the "GOP" so listen up.

NO you guys havn't changed a bit. You accuse people of racism and back policies that hurt blacks the most.

Your'e so full of ****.

Whats the unemployment rate currently for blacks ? Blacks under 30 ? Whats the dependence rate ? Whats the rate of blacks children born without a father in the home or to a single parent ?

You havnt changed a thing. Exept your sides pathetic historical revision of Lincolns administration.

Your'e still Dixie Crats through and through. Youve just hung up the white hoods temporarilly and replaced them with voter farms.

Its pretty desperate when all you have is false accusations of racism to rest your hat on.
 
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rocket88 said:
What a load. Should we hold the Republican party responsible for every position
they've ever taken historically?
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Your'e willing to hold them responsible for things their not responsible for so why wouldn't you ?

Again.....the policies of the Dixie Crats haven't changed a bit so those historical racist Democrat ways are in full effect currently as you guys do everything in your power to create a dependent class.

Go ahead and give me the current unemployment rate and percentage of black children born to single mothers.

Welfare is just a new age form of slavery when you pass laws that perpetuate it from generation to generation.

Your'e still doing it so Ef-off with your racist accusations when in all reality a free and equal class of blacks with a strong family bond is your worst nightmare.

Obama ran food stamp adds on Mexican TV stations. I wonder why?
 
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Fenton said:
Your'e willing to hold them responsible for things their not responsible for so why wouldn't you ?

Again.....the policies of the Dixie Crats haven't changed a bit so those historical racist Democrat ways are in full effect currently as you guys do everything in your power to create a dependent class.

Go ahead and give me the current unemployment rate and percentage of black children born to single mothers.

Welfare is just a new age form of slavery when you pass laws that perpetuate it from generation to generation.

Your'e still doing it so Ef-off with your racist accusations when in all reality a free and equal class of blacks with a strong family bond is your worst nightmare.

Obama ran food stamp adds on Mexican TV stations. I wonder why?
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Unlike you, I'm not making accusations of racism. I'm merely stating that holding the Democrats responsible for their past and saying it's still true now...in the 1860s a REPUBLICAN suspended habeas corpus, and he was supported by his party. This same President supported the idea of sending all the black people back to Africa. Are these still positions held by the Republican party?

Of course not. I get it, you're a Republican so anything the Democratic party does is automatically the root of all evil. It's interesting that these welfare policies have been in place for 50 years, yet the Republicans never made a concerted effort to repeal them.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Smeagol said:
After watching the film, which depicts the political fight to pass the 13th Amendment, Batra did some research. He learned that the amendment was ratified after three-fourths of the states backed it in December 1865. Four remaining states all eventually ratified the amendment -- except for Mississippi. Mississippi voted to ratify the amendment in 1995 but failed to make it official by notifying the U.S. Archivist.


After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slavery - CBS News


:lamo

Waiting until 1995 was funny enough but 2013 made my day. Way too funny.
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FINALLY !!!

I was getting tired of showing my papers every time I went there to visit my kin folks.
 
Re: Mississippi just got around to ratifying the 13th Amendment.

PeteEU said:
There was also a state... Louisiana I think, where inter-racial marriage was banned according to their constitution... which was first removed barely a few years ago in a referendum... the change only squeaked by.. wtf?
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And you're thinking very wrong, too. Who cares about the facts as long as you get a chance to push a falshood, that stereotypes people you hate. Right?
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

rocket88 said:
Unlike you, I'm not making accusations of racism. I'm merely stating that
holding the Democrats responsible for their past and saying it's still true now...in the 1860s a REPUBLICAN suspended habeas corpus, and he was supported by his party. This same President supported the idea of sending all the black people back to Africa. Are these still positions held by the Republican party?

Of course not. I get it, you're a Republican so anything the Democratic party does is automatically the root of all evil. It's interesting that these welfare policies have been in place for 50 years, yet the Republicans never made a concerted effort to repeal them.
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No, I'm a Conservative and will call out the Rebuplicans for their nonsense just as fast as I'll call out Democrats.

The criticism is comming from the left. The unfair criticism that attepts to broad brush the Cons AND Republicans as racist.

I do not suffer fools well and will simply offer up honest factual information to stop the progressive lie in its tracks.
 
Re: Mississippi just got around to ratifying the 13th Amendment.

apdst said:
And you're thinking very wrong, too. Who cares about the facts as long as you get a chance to push a falshood, that stereotypes people you hate. Right?
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It would appear that their defense has been condensed down to the lower common denominator by necessity alone.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

The absolute most insidiously racist place I've ever spent time is Boston, Massachusetts. Bastion of liberalism, and a white person won't look a black person in the eye. Institutionalized racism at its ugliest core.

Yet, you walk into a restaurant in Jackson, Mississippi, and you see blacks and whites sitting at the table everywhere. They're just not so uptight and overly sensitive that they can't tell a black/white joke among each other and chuckle together.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Fenton said:
Are you afflicted with something ?

I told you that a Democrat by any other name is still a Democrat.

Democrats fillibustered the 1964 civil rights act, not the "GOP" so listen up.

NO you guys havn't changed a bit. You accuse people of racism and back policies that hurt blacks the most.

Your'e so full of ****.

Whats the unemployment rate currently for blacks ? Blacks under 30 ? Whats the dependence rate ? Whats the rate of blacks children born without a father in the home or to a single parent ?

You havnt changed a thing. Exept your sides pathetic historical revision of Lincolns administration.

Your'e still Dixie Crats through and through. Youve just hung up the white hoods temporarilly and replaced them with voter farms.

Its pretty desperate when all you have is false accusations of racism to rest your hat on.
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Are you being obtuse or are you just extremely ignorant? Southern politics radically changed in the 1960's after LBJ pushed through the Civil Rights Act. Anyone who studied any amount of US History knows this.

You're basically arguing that the Democratic party never changed which is either an intentional lie or a stunningly ill-informed statement. Either way, it's false.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Better late than never. Kudos to the sovereign State of Mississippi for following through on unfinished business.

I don't see how anyone could think that this is a bad thing.
 
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calamity said:
How many Of the former Confederate states would reinstitute slavery today if they actually seceded as threatened lately?

I say at least three: LA, AL and MS. Although, I admit this would come about slowly. First we'd see Jim Crow. Then even more incarceration of Blacks...and there they would be worked like slaves.

Wait. Isn't that happening already?
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No, it isn't.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Mr.Nick said:
No, everything after the Tenth Amendment violates the Bill of Rights... None of it is legal.

State rights are supreme - if those liberties weren't, then the Tenth Amendment wouldn't exist.
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Bizarre...so Constitutionality is dictated by you not how the Constitution itself lays it's own amendment process. Learn new things everyday.
 
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Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

Mr.Nick said:
No, everything after the Tenth Amendment violates the Bill of Rights... None of it is legal.

State rights are supreme - if those liberties weren't, then the Tenth Amendment wouldn't exist.
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Ridiculous. A Constitutional Amendment cannot violate the constitution. It IS part of the Constitution. You need to take a class on consitutional law.
 
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Texmex said:
Oh how things have changed! We, democrats, also elected the first black president. Something that the republicans have fought against tooth and nail.
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That was not based on racism but in obvious inexperience and his subsequent and easily predictable incompetence. Check out this man. Hiram Rhodes Revels - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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d0gbreath said:
Better late than never. Kudos to the sovereign State of Mississippi for following through on unfinished business.

I don't see how anyone could think that this is a bad thing.
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No, it's a great thing. Just a 150 years too late.
 
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iliveonramen said:
A guy says it on Youtube so it must be true.
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Unless you can point out any errors in fact then yes, it must be true.

Can you spot any factual errors?? If so I'd really like to see them and we can expose the truth together.
 
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Grant said:
Unless you can point out any errors in fact then yes, it must be true.

Can you spot any factual errors?? If so I'd really like to see them and we can expose the truth together.
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The whole thing is absurd.

I really doubt your are worried about the truth....but for beginners we can talk about the idea that political parties in the US are static entities. That an 1800's Republican is the same as a 2014 Republican or that a Democratic Party member in the 1800's is the same thing as a 2014 Democratic Party member.
 
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iliveonramen said:
The whole thing is absurd.

I really doubt your are worried about the truth....but for beginners we can talk about the idea that political parties in the US are static entities. That an 1800's Republican is the same as a 2014 Republican or that a Democratic Party member in the 1800's is the same thing as a 2014 Democratic Party member.
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You seem to have changed your tune a little here, which is commendable.

History is something the Democrats have to live with and as the video pointed out, they are still legislating against Blacks as though they were inferior people. If you saw the video to the end you'll know what I'm referring to.

The Negro Family: The Case For National Action - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Moynihan generally concluded in the report: "The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States".

Far from freeing Black men with their Social programs, they made Black men dispensable. Democrats try to take credit for these programs, as another poster did when referring to LBJ, but they will not admit to the very real social harm these misguided, and ruinous, social programs have initiated.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

iliveonramen said:
The whole thing is absurd.

I really doubt your are worried about the truth....but for beginners we can talk about the idea that political parties in the US are static entities. That an 1800's Republican is the same as a 2014 Republican or that a Democratic Party member in the 1800's is the same thing as a 2014 Democratic Party member.
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How do you believe an 1860's Republican differs from a 2012 Republican?
 
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Fenton said:
No, I'm a Conservative and will call out the Rebuplicans for their nonsense just as fast as I'll call out Democrats.

The criticism is comming from the left. The unfair criticism that attepts to broad brush the Cons AND Republicans as racist.

I do not suffer fools well and will simply offer up honest factual information to stop the progressive lie in its tracks.
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Pre-civil rights, it was a very conservative attitude to leave things as they were. That is essentially what conservatism is about, not changing society. Look back to the 1850s - the radicals were the abolitionists. They formed the Republican party.

You're making the mistake of Liberal = Democrat, which is the same mistake as Conservative = Republican.
 
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Grant said:
How do you believe an 1860's Republican differs from a 2012 Republican?
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1860s Republicans were radicals. They were the ones who wanted to completely change the social order. The conservatives, who favored the existing social order, were Democrats.
 
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