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Petitioners paint Obama as ‘misogynist’ who’s ‘alienating’ women

j-mac said:
I don't think you can be so general. Romney got more married women than did Obama, but fewer single women. Much of this was due to the manufactured "war on women" cooked up by slick liberal strategists, and you fell for it.
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There is no war on women. I can't fall for something that I don't believe exists. Your kind of thinking however is what's going to push more and more women away. Obama talks about women's healthcare and continually and consistently fights for it. If healthcare is high on a woman's list when it comes to voting than voting for Obama isn't stupid, she isn't falling for some master plan he's concocted...she's just looking at the facts, he had already proven himself in that arena. Romney clearly hadn't.


I don't think that they, or you, are "Bimbo's" or anything of the sort. I do however believe that most of the single women vote we are talking about here going to Obama was due to a slick campaign by Obama's team, and targeted toward women between the ages of 18 to 35, single, and predisposed to vote liberal anyway. They were easily led by the promise of "free" stuff, including BC, and turned out masterfully by the Obama campaign. That doesn't mean that he BS spewed by the Obama campaign was correct, or truthful, but rather that Obama's campaign was better at targeting, and messaging....Don't conflate the two.
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What free stuff? I don't see any of this free stuff and if that's what I wanted when I voted I would have first voted for McCain way back when because his plan actually might have benefited me. Like I said, I pay for everything myself and I pay taxes that go to pay for other peoples healthcare in my state and I see none of that money, would it be nice to benefit from that as well? Sure, but this idea that everyone who voted for Obama wanted free things is harmful it's flat out wrong, it ignores the actual reasons that most people voted for Obama and it causes a further divide between the GOP and those who might vote repub. in the future.
 
madman said:
It was 100% MOCK!

I have not heard of any pay discrepancies in the Whitehouse. Do you have some sort of credible link to show this?
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Oh, I don't know, what do you consider a "credible link"?
 
Monserrat said:
There is no war on women.
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Tell that to the Obama campaign....That's all we heard from Obama mouthpieces like Axlerod, was how the GOP was waging a war on women because Sandra Fluke couldn't get free contraception.

What free stuff?
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Birth control....Contraceptives, etc.

I don't see any of this free stuff and if that's what I wanted when I voted I would have first voted for McCain way back when because his plan actually might have benefited me. Like I said, I pay for everything myself and I pay taxes that go to pay for other peoples healthcare in my state and I see none of that money, would it be nice to benefit from that as well? Sure...
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So, you say you don't want free stuff, but then say it would be nice to get free stuff....Thanks for proving my point.
 
j-mac said:
Tell that to the Obama campaign....That's all we heard from Obama mouthpieces like Axlerod, was how the GOP was waging a war on women because Sandra Fluke couldn't get free contraception.



Birth control....Contraceptives, etc.



So, you say you don't want free stuff, but then say it would be nice to get free stuff....Thanks for proving my point.
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I'm saying it would be nice to actually benefit from the money that I'm already paying for healthcare that currently goes to other people in my state. I wouldn't call that free stuff would you? Since I'm already paying for it?
 
Monserrat said:
I'm saying it would be nice to actually benefit from the money that I'm already paying for healthcare that currently goes to other people in my state. I wouldn't call that free stuff would you? Since I'm already paying for it?
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And I am saying that your position is in diametric opposition. You on the one hand say that you want to not have to pay for others benefit, yet you want everyone to pay for benefits that you deem reasonable...That is a convenient way to look at things, and lends credence to the old saying that liberal don't mind socialist policies as long as they don't have to participate in what they proscribe for the masses.
 
j-mac said:
And I am saying that your position is in diametric opposition. You on the one hand say that you want to not have to pay for others benefit, yet you want everyone to pay for benefits that you deem reasonable...That is a convenient way to look at things, and lends credence to the old saying that liberal don't mind socialist policies as long as they don't have to participate in what they proscribe for the masses.
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I said none of that.

I don't think universal health care forced upon a country where at least 50% of the population does not want it is a good thing especially in a country already suffering economically. Being a realist however makes me acknowledge that whether or not it's a good thing, whether or not I want that doesn't make a difference, it looks like it's coming and if it does than it should at least cover everyone's health care including what's specific to one sex or the other.
 
Monserrat said:
I said none of that.

I don't think universal health care forced upon a country where at least 50% of the population does not want it is a good thing especially in a country already suffering economically. Being a realist however makes me acknowledge that whether or not it's a good thing, whether or not I want that doesn't make a difference, it looks like it's coming and if it does than it should at least cover everyone's health care including what's specific to one sex or the other.
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Ok, then we are probably closer in our opinion then we think....I agree with you here.
 
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