Meteorite strikes, 'around 100 injured'

Looks like Momoud missed his landing zone by a bit.

MMC said:

Now this cracks me up.....all this coverage over this event and check it out.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky denies meteorite, claims US weapons tests

Moscow. Farid Akberov – APA. Russian nationalist lawmaker Vladimir Zhirinovsky, long known for his flamboyance and outrageous remarks, said Friday that meteorite fragments had not rained down on Russia in the morning, but that the light flashes and tremors in several of the country’s regions resulted from US weapons tests, APA reports quoting RIA Novosti.

“Those aren’t meteors falling, it’s the Americans testing new weapons,” Zhirinovsky, leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, told journalists several hours after the Emergencies Ministry began issuing statements on the incident, which has injured hundreds and damaged scores of buildings.

He also said US Secretary of State John Kerry had wanted to warn Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov about the “provocation” on Monday, but couldn’t reach him.....snip~

APA - Vladimir Zhirinovsky denies meteorite, claims US weapons tests

I can't believe this guy is a real politician. :shock:

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Lol! As if we don't have enough on our plate. Sounds like somebody wants to start up the Cold War again.

Napoleon said:

No, this was only 150 feet wide. The one that killed the dinosaurs was over 6 miles wide. Of course, this isn't to say that even a meteorite as small as this isn't dangerous. That city would have been completely destroyed had the meteorite survived entry and impacted.

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The sonic boom from the meteorite had a pretty big effect on the city, like an earthquake apparently. If it had made direct impact, things could have been a lot worse for those people.

The Giant Noodle said:

Awwww GEEEEEZ!
Not THIS crap again. I thought we got rid of this idiotic stuff in the early 90's. In what way does this do any good for their country? Why would he try to make us look bad? Why start another cold war?

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The Russians still have loads of multi-stage Fusion Weapons pointed.....wait, I'm at Target and some Women just called out to her daughter " Astrid "..

I get it, it's an old Norse name but it was spoken lazily and sounded like "Ass-terd"....

Fantastic. I'm a Conservative but I'm all for a arbitrary and capricious tax on women who give their kids stupid names. It should be levied at the Hospital.

If I run across one more Dakota, Cheyenne, Hunter, Damien, Chesney, Brook'lyne, Kaitlin I'm gonna lose it.

All it takes is a couple with marginal intelligence who call a tin building on wheels HOME and the stupidity abounds.....

sorry, back to my point. Uhm, the Ruskies are in no way our ally and would in an instant do away with us if they could. Hell all they have to do is dump their US treasuries or get China to dump its US bonds and thats all it would take.

Fenton said:

The Russians still have loads of multi-stage Fusion Weapons pointed.....wait, I'm at Target and some Women just called out to her daughter " Astrid "..

I get it, it's an old Norse name but it was spoken lazily and sounded like "Ass-terd"....

Fantastic. I'm a Conservative but I'm all for a arbitrary and capricious tax on women who give their kids stupid names. It should be levied at the Hospital.

If I run across one more Dakota, Cheyenne, Hunter, Damien, Chesney, Brook'lyne, Kaitlin I'm gonna lose it.

All it takes is a couple with marginal intelligence who call a tin building on wheels HOME and the stupidity abounds.....

sorry, back to my point. Uhm, the Ruskies are in no way our ally and would in an instant do away with us if they could. Hell all they have to do is dump their US treasuries or get China to dump its US bonds and thats all it would take.

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:lamo That's an ugly name.

Napoleon said:

No, this was only 150 feet wide. The one that killed the dinosaurs was over 6 miles wide. Of course, this isn't to say that even a meteorite as small as this isn't dangerous. That city would have been completely destroyed had the meteorite survived entry and impacted.

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The dinosaurs didn't survive their nuclear winter thanks to that one giant rock or comet. It's happened at least once, it can happen again.

The meteor did make it to become a meteorite. Most of it probably burned up thanks to the friction created by Earth's atmosphere and the meteor traveling 33,000 MPH.

Since the moon has little gravity it has no atmosphere and no friction to slow these things down. Can you imagine what the impact would have looked like there? Get a pair of binoculars and check out all the craters on the moon.

Fenton said:

The Russians still have loads of multi-stage Fusion Weapons pointed.....wait, I'm at Target and some Women just called out to her daughter " Astrid "..

I get it, it's an old Norse name but it was spoken lazily and sounded like "Ass-terd"....

Fantastic. I'm a Conservative but I'm all for a arbitrary and capricious tax on women who give their kids stupid names. It should be levied at the Hospital.

If I run across one more Dakota, Cheyenne, Hunter, Damien, Chesney, Brook'lyne, Kaitlin I'm gonna lose it.

All it takes is a couple with marginal intelligence who call a tin building on wheels HOME and the stupidity abounds.....

sorry, back to my point. Uhm, the Ruskies are in no way our ally and would in an instant do away with us if they could. Hell all they have to do is dump their US treasuries or get China to dump its US bonds and thats all it would take.

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:thinking

The Giant Noodle said:

Not good not good NOT GOOOD! Time to PANIC!!! :scared::scared::scared:




Meteorite Streaks Across Russian Urals, Leaves At Least 100 Injured (VIDEO)

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It really ahows how vulnerable we are to these things and Obama's answer is to cut funding from NASA...How insane is that?

By latest accounts, some 1,200 people injured - mostly cut but broken glass - but no one was killed. Nearly a miracle.

Navy Pride said:

It really ahows how vulnerable we are to these things and Obama's answer is to cut funding from NASA...How insane is that?

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I'm having a good laugh over this.

1) Years ago, when I brought up the fact that Bush had cut NASA funding, you pretty much called me antiamerican for saying something bad about Bush.

2) Had Obama restored those funds to NASA, you would be calling him a tax and spend Liberal.

This is just a case of "It's only bad when the other party does it, but good when our guys do it".

3) Obama cut funds from a government program, and you are mad? I am mad too, my left wing friend. :mrgreen:

sawyerloggingon said:

I'm quite sure that this was caused by global warming. a warmer planet becomes more magnetic and attracts meteorites like dog s*** attracts flies. We are doomed!

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See.... you laugh, but, some idiot on CNN I think suggested that.

Fenton said:

The Russians still have loads of multi-stage Fusion Weapons pointed.

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You are way more likely to have your home powered by Russian nuclear weapons then you are to be attacked by them.

Great irony of the Cold War is that former Russian warheads are turned into MOX fuel to light up the homes they were built to annihilate.

danarhea said:

I'm having a good laugh over this.

1) Years ago, when I brought up the fact that Bush had cut NASA funding, you pretty much called me antiamerican for saying something bad about Bush.

2) Had Obama restored those funds to NASA, you would be calling him a tax and spend Liberal.

This is just a case of "It's only bad when the other party does it, but good when our guys do it".

3) Obama cut funds from a government program, and you are mad? I am mad too, my left wing friend. :mrgreen:

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Shame doesn't work on the shameless my friend. Besides, what exactly are we going to do against it?

The rock was flying at 48,000 KPH or roughly 29,825 MPH which is almost double what ICBMs top out at and we can't even hit those with any regular success and they are much bigger.

They call the missile shield hitting a bullet with a bullet. This is like hitting a supersonic grain of sand with a bullet.

Cyrylek said:

By latest accounts, some 1,200 people injured - mostly cut but broken glass - but no one was killed. Nearly a miracle.

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It appears that the meteor was much larger than initially reported. An article in the Christian Science Monitor says that it weighed about 7,000 metric tons (NOT 10 tons.), and that it's explosion at 12-15 miles altitude had the force of a 300-500 kiloton nuclear warhead (Hiroshima bomb was 20-22 kilotons.). What if it had exploded over Moscow at 1 kilometer altitude?

Check it out: http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0215/Russian-meteor-blast-had-force-of-300-kiloton-nuclear-warhead-video

Navy Pride said:

It really ahows how vulnerable we are to these things and Obama's answer is to cut funding from NASA...How insane is that?

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Im calling it.... that is 100% STUPID! 4th grade mentality.

Again... OBABA has NO decision! Its on the CONGRESS!!! :roll:

The Giant Noodle said:

Im calling it.... that is 100% STUPID! 4th grade mentality.

Again... OBABA has NO decision! Its on the CONGRESS!!! :roll:

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Remember, Obama has dictatorial powers that let him spend money free of the Constitution and thus is entirely to blame at the same time as being a hopeless clown who's initiatives keep getting bogged down because he can't work with Congress to get things passed and budgets signed.

The more partisan you are, the less you understand the rights and obligations of the branches of government.

obvious Child said:

You are way more likely to have your home powered by
Russian nuclear weapons then you are to be attacked by them.

Great irony of the Cold War is that former Russian warheads are turned into MOX fuel to light up the homes they were built to annihilate.

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Thats interesting. The general consensus from the left is that Russia is no longer a threat, nor North Korea or China. And that Conservatives are suffering through some psychotic episode when the subject is brought up.

When in fact on the 12th of this month two Russian long range Nuclear bombers ( TU-95 Bear H ) Buzzed Guam.

Remember Guam, thats the Island Democrat Hank Johnson said would "tip over" if more marines were added.

And you guys said George Bush was stupid.

They were met by US fighters and happened to be armed with Nuclear tipped cruise missles.

200 Kilo-tons each, thats 10 times the explosive power of the Hiroshima explosion.

Yea we don't have to worry about those Ruskies anymore as Obama looks to unilaterally cut 1/3 of Americas arsenal.

Truth is, if you show weakness, the bullies start to get unruly and its happening right before our eyes from China's potential crisis with Japan over the Senkaku Islands to the rising fundamental Islamic threat in the middle East.

Wer'e supposed to defend Japan if that gets ugly, or if China makes a move on Taiwan. North Korea's already planning additional test and long range missle test. Irans a year away from a nuke, maybe less and they're sending chimps into space. ( Testing an ICBM )

A simultaneous strategic attack on Isreal and Taiwan and Japan with our military already feeling the pinch as one of our Aircraft Carrier sits docked because of lack of funds to refuel and refit would be a debillitating strike to Americas military.

This is happening for a reason. A weak presence in the oval office and our enemies know it.

Liberals strike me as ignorant, not apathetic, just ignorant. When it affects them personally then they'll wake up. Personally I think that's chicken "$hit".

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Thats interesting. The general consensus from the left is that Russia is no longer a threat, nor North Korea or China. And that Conservatives are suffering through some psychotic episode when the subject is brought up.

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Russia has nothing to gain from a war with the US or West. That of course does not dictate that their weapon capabilities aren't dangerous, but their interests are largely aligned with the West when it comes to many things, peace included. While Russia will wage some form of economic warfare, actual hot conflict is really something they'd try to avoid. And yes, Romney was off his rocker when he said the biggest threat to the US was Russia.

When in fact on the 12th of this month two Russian long range Nuclear bombers ( TU-95 Bear H ) Buzzed Guam.

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So? We regularly run our Ohio classes well within range of their cities with enough nuclear firepower to turn every major Russian city into glass. Furthermore, the stealthy Virginia class lets us deploy SEAL teams directly on to foreign soil without anyone knowing. And we still have our B-2 bombers capable of dropping multimegaton warheads into the densest, most defended cities on the planet.

Try to get some perspective for a change.

They were met by US fighters and happened to be armed with Nuclear tipped cruise missiles

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So they're tweaking us. Besides, that doesn't even make sense. Those bombers are slow and easily taken out. If they really want to take Guam out, they'd use a submarine to a launch a nuclear tipped cruise missile. Russia is trying to get our attention, but it's hardly the real weapon they'd use. Essentially that's a one way trip for the bomber. With a submarine, the chance of an actual successful attack is much higher. Furthermore, Tupolev Tu-22M is a superior anti-US bomber than the bear is. Launching from Vladivostok, the Backfire is faster and much smaller target than the bear. And within the maximum range cruise missile, they are within range. They'd still come scary close to Kadena and the mere fact of a backfire flying would raise serious red alarms all through out the region, but that would be the aerial choice of platform, not the bear.

Furthermore, based on ABC news, we knew about these bombers as soon as they took off from North East Russia. Japan had eyes on them with their own fighters. Bear bombers are slow, easy to track and easy to destroy. Takes lots of guts to actually get in to one of those. Bears are far more useful for standoff weapons when they have escorts, as recon and as experimental platforms: essentially the same stuff we use our B-52s for. Both the Bear and the BFF aren't really considered for front line combat.

200 Kilo-tons each, thats 10 times the explosive power of the Hiroshima explosion.

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A P-700 has more than twice that capabilities. And can be launched from a stealthy submarine that has a much better chance at evading multiple layers of US defenses. On top of that, the extreme range of the Kh-55SM gives Anderson about 3 hours to prepare. US missile defenses aren't that good at taking out supersonic missiles, but 3 hours is plenty of time to setup missile interceptor batteries. The Granit gives Anderson about 20 minutes. It's pretty clear what they'd use if they were serious about destroying US equipment. So we have your scenario which requires bombers to get through multiple layers of defense, survive, then launch a series of missiles that will take about 3 hours to get to their target destination over sending a submarine to launch a much bigger payload per missile that goes double the speed and gives Guam only 20 minutes to actually prepare and evacuate. Conclusion: Russia is tweaking us because they can. Oh Putin, what a joker. The most direct route to hitting Guam would be to overfly one of the largest US airbases on the planet: Kadena. Yeah. Not going to happen.

Yea we don't have to worry about those Ruskies anymore as Obama looks to unilaterally cut 1/3 of Americas arsenal.

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Pretty much. You seem worried about the wrong things. Besides, we really don't need that many nukes anyways.

Truth is, if you show weakness, the bullies start to get unruly

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Is that why terrorists attacks are down after we invaded Iraq? Oh wait, they're not.

and its happening right before our eyes from China's potential crisis with Japan over the Senkaku Islands

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How is that even related? China and Japan have been complaining about that for decades. Furthermore, Japan has territorial disputes with every neighbor it has. South Korea has been fighting Japan over its own set of stupid islands. Taiwan and Philippines both have their scraps with Tokyo over islands. What is causing the flare is up is the Japanese government's decision to buy the islands from its Japanese private land owners. If they had not done that, no one would be talking about this. Amusingly, the authorization was meant to reduce the problem as the Japanese government incorrectly believed that once they had purchased them, because they were now officially government property, China would back off. This has frankly nothing to do with the US and several US officials have quietly said that we will not go to war over "damn rocks."

to the rising fundamental Islamic threat in the middle East.

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That has been starting since we funded the Mujahedin in Afghanistan all those years. And after Britain and France back stabbed their Arab allies after WWII. Neither have anything to do with what you are saying. In fact, our over reaction to 9/11 has directly benefited them as the cost to put it on was less than a few million and the economic damage and related debt is well into the trillions.

You again seem worried about the wrong things.

Wer'e supposed to defend Japan if that gets ugly, or if they make a move on Taiwan.

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Neither of which will happen. China undergoing its 10 year change of power and starting a war? Not going to happen. And Independence in Taiwan is no different then it was last couple elections. Furthermore, China will take Taiwan the way it's doing now: economically. Taiwan is so tied into the Chinese economy that given enough time, Taiwan will eventually revert to PRC control. It makes no sense for the Chinese to actually fight a war over Taiwan as long as Taiwan does not openly declare independence.

North Korea's already planning additional test and long range missle test.

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And the missile will fail epically. Furthermore, NK uses its nuclear program to legitimize its government because it frankly has nothing else. Iran and North Korea share the desire to live. Using nukes ends their regimes.

A simultaneous strategic attack on Isreal and Taiwan and Japan with our military already feeling the pinch as one of our Aircraft Carrier sits docked because of lack of funds to refuel and refit would be a debillitating strike to Americas military.

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You should read less Tom Clancy and more Foreign Policy. Iran cannot win a conventional war with Israel. And Iran knows that any nuclear first strike will instantly put the Arabs against them and see a dozen Israeli nukes fly back at them. Iran knows it cannot track the Dolphin class submarines Israel has and that have harpoon cruise missiles with nukes on them. Iran's nuclear arsenal is tiny compared to the Israelis.

Besides, if China really wanted us dead, they'd simply just sell our bonds at a fire sale. That would seriously damage their economy, but if they were die hard enough, that would be better than starting a war.

This is happening for a reason. A weak presence in the oval office and our enemies know it.

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No, you think that because you have really no idea what you are talking about.

Liberals strike me as ignorant, not apathetic, just ignorant. When it affects them personally then they'll wake up. Personally I think that's chicken "$hit".

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Perhaps you should take off your tin foil hat. You really have no idea what you are discussing. Something tells me you seriously underestimated my knowledge on these subjects.

In case you're wondering why a Backfire over a Blackjack, better combat radius at top speed. Sure the Blackjack has better overall range, but that's at a Mach 0.77 and you will get hunted down or intercepted much earlier at that speed. And they can carry more long range missiles than the Blackjack.

Northern Light said:

I think Russians are just less hysterical than Americans would be.

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But the driver could have less hysterically and more calmly just turn to the other direction from the meteorite and calmly step the peddle to the metal while listening to "Conquest of Paradise" of Vangelis then. The issue is that there is no meteorite specific response. The car just moves on with not much change of mood while exposed to what could be oblivion (if only the meteorite was larger).

Couldnt resist, found it at AoS HQ.

This morning they are reporting that this meteor is not connected to the Asteroid that missed us by 17k. That this was meteor wasn't anything that broke off from the Asteroid. They were both on different trajectories. 150 feet across about the size of a football field. Still enough to take out a city.

I think the Mayan calendar was misinterpeted by scientists. I don't care. Let er rip. What a rush.

MMC said:

This morning they are reporting that this meteor is not connected to the Asteroid that missed us by 17k. That this was meteor wasn't anything that broke off from the Asteroid. They were both on different trajectories. 150 feet across about the size of a football field. Still enough to take out a city.

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Just think if it hit my city, norfolk. It would take out our navy.:shock:

Apparently the injury toll is over 1000 now, though no deaths yet. The injuries come mainly from glass shattering from the sonic boom as it passed by!