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Conservative said:
We also have basic civics which apparently you don't understand. You have no proof that Obama prevented a depression only leftwing claims as such, just rhetoric without substance. Still waiting for how did Bush destroy the economy with Democrats controlling Congress. Please take a civics course
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Are we not counting the policy's implemented by the bush administration before the midterm election in 2006?
 
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Good thing we have minimum wage laws then or we'd all still be getting 85¢ an hour. You can't fill your car up for $7.25 or $9 either.

Fisher said:
Wow, Specklebang. I couldn't even fill up my car once making 85 cents an hour.
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Unitedwestand13 said:
Are we not counting the policy's implemented by the bush administration before the midterm election in 2006?
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So what you are saying is that the Democrats took control of the Congress in January 2007, had total control of the legislative process and purse strings and could do nothing about policies that you believe led to the recession that began in December 2007 and policies that continues to be in effect today four years after Bush left office? Do liberals ever take responsibility for anything?
 
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head of joaquin said:
Head of Joaquin's Law: a tea partier can't post more than three times without calling somebody a marxist.
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Travis007 Law: "Liberalism is the philosophy of the stupid" - Mark Levin
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
Are we not counting the policy's implemented by the bush administration before the midterm election in 2006?
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You mean the good old days when the economy was strong?
 
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Travis007 said:
Hoping some how America wakes up and sees who this radical really is...

does anyone really think things are better under Obama... facts say not
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I'm sure better off now than I was before he took office. The economy was plunging into the abyss, now it's turned around. Two wars; one is done and the other will be by next year. bin Laden still alive; now he's dead, the auto industry almost gone. Now it leads the world. Unemployment is down to where it was when he took office, manufacturing is coming back and the Dow went over 14,000 It was down at 6500 when he took office. The facts say emphatically YES! Apparently the majority of the people that voted agreed.
 
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Slateriesling said:
What I look forward to and hearing Reps say that his tone was too adversarial when the fact is there is nothing he could say that would satisfy them.

I just wonder if anyone will have the lack of class to shout at him during this speach. Always fun to watch our legislators act like high school students.
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The pres. lays out a vision for the country. The Repubs attack him. They haven't learned anything. But...on the bright side, we all learned that Rubio sweats a lot and needs to reach for water. Rubios Watergate. :lamo
 
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Conservative said:
So what you are saying is that the Democrats took control of the Congress in January 2007, had total control of the legislative process and purse strings and could do nothing about policies that you believe led to the recession that began in December 2007 and policies that continues to be in effect today four years after Bush left office? Do liberals ever take responsibility for anything?
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The recession was not caused by act of government, it was a factor in the severity of the crisis, but it was not solely to blame. Wall Street and the big banks ran wild, lending subprime mortgages to people who were trying purchase houses that they could possablly afford.

The cause of the economic recession is akin to building a skyscraper with a flawed structural integrity. The higher it went up the more stress was put on the structure until it reached a point were it could take no more and the whole thing collapsed on itself.
 
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Wayno said:
Teachers, cops, fire fighters.......

Union members.
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Yeah..those damn union members. Cops and fire fighters and teachers and those guys that dug out the remains at Ground Zero. Next time you have a fire at your house, put it out yourself.
 
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This is a really stupid thread. It's just an excuse for a bunch of mindless rant for Obama haters.
 
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Adagio said:
I'm sure better off now than I was before he took office. The economy was plunging into the abyss, now it's turned around. Two wars; one is done and the other will be by next year. bin Laden still alive; now he's dead, the auto industry almost gone. Now it leads the world. Unemployment is down to where it was when he took office, manufacturing is coming back and the Dow went over 14,000 It was down at 6500 when he took office. The facts say emphatically YES! Apparently the majority of the people that voted agreed.
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Are you Joe Biden's speech writer? You say you are better off, but then rattle off campaign talking-points from 2012. LOL...
 
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iguanaman said:
You call sitting on the brink of a huge real estate bubble a better position than
we are right now? LOL you are a true partisan.
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That Democrat policies caused.
 
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Adagio said:
The pres. lays out a vision for the country. The Repubs attack him. They haven't learned anything. But...on the bright side, we all learned that Rubio sweats a lot and needs to reach for water. Rubios Watergate. :lamo
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I didn't watch either the president or Rubio, talk is cheap. Most of the rhetoric spouted by either party is to please their base. Now actions speak louder than words. I will do as I usually do, I will sit back with ear plugs on and watch what happens, what actions or non-actions each side takes. Whether the votes on bills are symbolic so they can say they are doing something while doing nothing or if the votes and debates are the real thing. I do not trust either party and in most cases, I rank politicians right below lawyers. But there are times when one needs a good lawyer and once in a long while, politicians actually come through.
 
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Adagio said:
I'm sure better off now than I was before he took office. The economy was plunging into the abyss, now it's turned around. Two wars; one is done and the other will be by next year. bin Laden still alive; now he's dead, the auto industry almost gone. Now it leads the world. Unemployment is down to where it was when he took office, manufacturing is coming back and the Dow went over 14,000 It was down at 6500 when he took office. The facts say emphatically YES! Apparently the majority of the people that voted agreed.
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Congratulations on being better off than you were four years ago, wonder if the 22 plus million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers plus the millions of small business owners that have gone out of business feel the same way? Wonder how many of them are benefiting from the booming stock market which apparently seems to mean to you that when things are good on Wall Street they are good on Main Street? Were you this excited when we had a record high stock market in 2007?

You claim the economy was plunging into the abyss, did you get that out of the media reports? How did the recession of 2007-2009 hurt you or your family? Try living with 17.5% interest rates and 10.8% unemployment along with high inflation.

You are typical of the Obama supporter, someone who ignores history and reality and simply buys what he was told. Sounds like a poorly informed voter to me.
 
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Adagio said:
The pres. lays out a vision for the country. The Repubs attack him. They haven't learned anything. But...on the bright side, we all learned that Rubio sweats a lot and needs to reach for water. Rubios Watergate. :lamo
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LOL, a vision for the country? To me it was another speech where he gave people like you what you wanted to hear and will do what he has done the last four years, whatever he wants to do that has nothing to do with the vision he laid out last night. An Obama supporter buys rhetoric, a conservative buys results. when will we get strong economic growth, job creation, fewer people dependent on the taxpayers for assistance and a reduction in the 16.5 trillion dollar debt?
 
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Adagio said:
This is a really stupid thread. It's just an excuse for a bunch of mindless rant for Obama haters.
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Hmmm.

Or an excuse for a bunch of mindless rave for Obama lovers....................
 
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Adagio said:
This is a really stupid thread. It's just an excuse
for a bunch of mindless rant for Obama haters.
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Your'e refering to a "bait" thread.

Look if morons claim that what we're currenty experiencing is "growth" and a "recovery" then its not our fault if we come in and tell the truth.

Don't run off at the mouth with lies and misrepresentations and NOT expect to get challenged on your BS.

I'm not a Lib, I'm not easily fooled or entertained.

You dont want to hear the truth,go hang out the democrat underground.
 
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specklebang said:
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!

good grief©
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Very well stated, and you speak for many of us. Also, BHO repeatedly shouting "Take a Vote" was drama at its finest...and he certainly seemed to enjoy the attention it got. Perhaps he should speak to Harry Reid about actually bringing everything UP for a vote? Radical, I know, but I wondered....
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
The recession was not caused by act of government, it was a factor in the severity of the crisis, but it was not solely to blame. Wall Street and the big banks ran wild, lending subprime mortgages to people who were trying purchase houses that they could possablly afford.

The cause of the economic recession is akin to building a skyscraper with a flawed structural integrity. The higher it went up the more stress was put on the structure until it reached a point were it could take no more and the whole thing collapsed on itself.
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Yet here we are today with people still blaming Bush while Obama put the people in his Administration that helped perpetuate the crisis, Geithner and Summers? Then there was Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. Now you can bury your head in the sand, be a typical liberal blaming everyone else but liberal policies or you can come into the real world and understand that Obama is a social justice guy who believes in wealth redistribution along with being a lot like most Obama supporters knowing nothing about how our economy works.
 
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The House should have never invited him.
 
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Perotista said:
I didn't watch either the president or Rubio, talk is cheap. Most of the rhetoric spouted by either party is to please their base. Now actions speak louder than words. I will do as I usually do, I will sit back with ear plugs on and watch what happens, what actions or non-actions each side takes. Whether the votes on bills are symbolic so they can say they are doing something while doing nothing or if the votes and debates are the real thing. I do not trust either party and in most cases, I rank politicians right below lawyers. But there are times when one needs a good lawyer and once in a long while, politicians actually come through.
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Excellent post! We'll all be watching to see what happens next....
 
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Adagio said:
I'm sure better off now than I was before he took office. The economy was plunging into the abyss, now it's turned around. Two wars; one is done and the other will be by next year. bin Laden still alive; now he's dead, the auto industry almost gone. Now it leads the world. Unemployment is down to where it was when he took office, manufacturing is coming back and the Dow went over 14,000 It was down at 6500 when he took office. The facts say emphatically YES! Apparently the majority of the people that voted agreed.
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in realiity the economy is in shambles....the USA has been downgraded... thats reality...its not about me or you..
 
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