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SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

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Grant said:
Well we can laugh at them f0r sure, then watch them squirm and disappear, but they are also ruining the country.
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I agree.... everyday makes me sick that they are ruining our country as the ignorant Obamabots line up and clap at their own demise... scary
 
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Travis007 said:
well all know the libs cant win a debate... the low information crowd is a hoot..
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Yeah, I for the life of me don't know what I am "surrendering".... Sounds more like a 5 year old, I keep wondering if the next words typed are going to call me a "big doody head" or something.....:mrgreen:
 
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j-mac said:
Yeah, I for the life of me don't know what I am "surrendering".... Sounds more like a 5 year old, I keep wondering if the next words typed are going to call me a "big doody head" or something.....:mrgreen:
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yep... its painful to debate these low info Libs.... its like Candy Crowley, as soon as we start nailing them then just start lying ...

did you know

Obama has created 9,000,0000, 0000 new jobs

Obama has saved the oceans

Obama has cut 78,0000,0000,000 in deficit

Obama has increased the military by 80,000,000,0000 good paying jobs

Obama has Iran on its knees

Obama has never taken a vacation

Obama played for the Chicago Bulls and taught Jordan how to play

Obama speaks 45 languages

Obama has spent by 45,0000,00000,0000 less then GWB

Obama has had it harder then any other President, and GWB dealing with 9/11 wa nothing compared to Obama having to go on MSNBC

Obama has made infants into genius's

Obama saved Chicago

Obama killed UBL with a vulcan mind melt

Obama is from Nebraska

Obama worked in the private sector and created Amazon


dont make me go on...this diety is beyond reproach
 
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Grant said:
No, I really can't be bothered playing this
game with you.


Whatever anyone can point to regarding Obama's incompetence te blame is always placed elsewhere. George Bush is always first but then we have the weather, the Chinese, etc. Here's a ;ist I just discovered but there are more.

That's why i asked where he might be competent because there doesn't seem be any area where this guy seems to know what's he's doing. I'd get the same excuses from you, I know, as we do from BHO.

George W. Bush

Tax breaks

Arab Spring

Japanese earthquake

Globalization

George W. Bush

Automation technologies

Eurozone crisis

Republican House

ATM usage

George W. Bush

The Weather

Bad luck

Super PAC ad spending

Lack of stimulus money

George W. Bush

The Tea Party

Unmanned airport ticket kiosks

Oil speculators

Underestimation of economic crisis

George W. Bush

Businesses not expanding

Americans being soft and lazy

Fox News

Energy companies not getting behind…algae
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You shut his silly ass up with that post.

He'll come back with an irrelevent Krugman article.

I especially liked the one where Krugman supported a Alien Invasion from outer space to fix our desyroyed economy.

Or how about the Krugman article where he politiely declined to accept the Treasury Position........that was never offered to him.

Krugman©

The crazy cat lady stuck in a frumpy bearded mans body.
 
Fenton said:
You shut his silly ass up with that post.

He'll come back with an irrelevent Krugman article.

I especially liked the one where Krugman supported a Alien Invasion from outer space to fix our desyroyed economy.

Or how about the Krugman article where he politiely declined to accept the Treasury Position........that was never offered to him.

Krugman©

The crazy cat lady stuck in a frumpy bearded mans body.
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The really odd thing is that he and Obama both won Nobel prizes. And of course so did Yasser Arafat.

It's like Justin Beiber sweeping the Oscars.
 
Grant said:
The really odd thing is that he and Obama both
won Nobel prizes. And of course so did Yasser Arafat.

It's like Justin Beiber sweeping the Oscars.
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That's the year the Nobel Commision was struck with a acute highly invasive form of syphilis. It had moved into the tertiary stage by the time Obama, Krugman and Gore's names had come up for consideration.

Sure they gave them Nobel Prizes, but they also thought they were sitting on Mars drinking Shirley Temples.
 
Conservative said:
This has to be a joke or a game for you that I am no longer going to play. You have been provided with data and actual facts which you choose to ignore. You have yet to answer any direct question but instead divert, distort, and make wild claims like this one.

Not sure what it is about people like you who have no problem making a fool out of yourself. A true Obama supporter is very naive, gullible, and poorly informed. Results don't matter nor does a true understanding of history, economics, and civics. It is always someone else's fault for personal failures and liberals have all the answers but never the solutions to real problems.
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This has to be a joke or a game for you that I am no longer going to play.
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Is that a threat or a promise? You provide data and everyone knows that data can and usually is manipulated to produce a desired result. What you do in all you posts is attempt to swamp the post with ridiculous data that is biased to begin with. Didn't you post a video from the CATO Institute? That's a Libertarian Think Tank. I already know that their views stem from Hayek and Mises. Do you think I haven't read them? They're economic reductionists. They practice Economism. Absolutely none of the posts I've put up have been addressed by you at all. None. You obviously see everything in monatary terms. You believe that all facts, interests, and goals can ultimately be defined in economic terms—or, in other words, that economic facts, interests, and goals are the only ones that really exist. Do you deny that?? If you didn't, you would consider the human effect of the things you talk about. But you don't. For you freedom is a means to economic prosperity that we may dispense with if and when it no longer works to achieve its end.

Not sure what it is about people like you who have no problem making a fool out of yourself.
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That's your problem. You don't understand that it's you that is making a fool out of yourself. The last campaign proves my point. You and your ilk were rejected because you presented yourself as stupid, and totally out of touch with the country. You keep pounding on outdated ideas that have been falsified. You put up morons for candidates and then blame the rest of us for not accepting idiots to run the country. You're playing checkers, and we're playing chess. You offer simple minded answers to complex problems, and offer racist policies, you alieanate the entire nation through insults and discrimination and then wonder why nobody votes for your ideology. You talk about us being poorly informed and yet all of you are devoted to Fox Noise, which has been shown to pander to the most ignorant fools in America. You tell me that we don't understand history?? We reject your historical revisionism. We've seen it through the likes of Glenn Beck, David Barton, the Texas School Board. You say we don't understand economics, and yet Paul Krugman won a Nobel for Economics. We aren't all Austrians as Ron Paul would think. We know who Hayek was, and although you and your ilk talk about him, you fail to understand that he rejected you. You have morons like Mark Levin spouting the virtues of Edmund Burke...a Tory from Britain who was the leading voice of the Anti-Enlightenment. That's Anti American, since we were a product of the Enlightenment as articulated by Jefferson and Paine.

As for Liberals having all the answers, and never the solutions, you don't even get that right. We look at a problem and apply human intelligence to address the problem. If it doesn't work, we change. That's because we can. We aren't locked into a rigid ideology. You on the other hand never even bother to recognize that a problem exists. If you don't look at it, it will just go away. Laissez Faire. The Market will work it out.

The very concept of conservatism is embedded with dogma, that we see as not just ridiculous but sometimes dangerous. We don't make up Enemies Lists like conservatives from Nixon to Wayne LaPierre. We find you childish, petulant children. A bad joke that lingers on like the stench on the stranded boat in the Gulf. And no matter what we do to drag you into the 21st century, you dig your heels in and scream and bite and snarl and crap your pants until eventually you accept the new ideas as your own. And the process starts all over with the next issue. In short...you're a pretty disgusting bag of bile, that we always end up having to put up with. You're a scared, paranoid bunch that we all wish would go away so we can move forward as we were meant to do.:peace
 
Adagio said:
The very concept of conservatism is embedded with dogma, that we see as not just ridiculous but sometimes dangerous. We don't make up Enemies Lists like conservatives from Nixon to Wayne LaPierre. We find you childish, petulant children. A bad joke that lingers on like the stench on the stranded boat in the Gulf. And no matter what we do to drag you into the 21st century, you dig your heels in and scream and bite and snarl and crap your pants until eventually you accept the new ideas as your own. And the process starts all over with the next issue. In short...you're a pretty disgusting bag of bile, that we always end up having to put up with. You're a scared, paranoid bunch that we all wish would go away so we can move forward as we were meant to do.
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Ever wonder why Liberals occasionally find themselves on 'enemy lists'?
 
Conservative;1061466207[/QUOTE said:
Obama wouldn't look so bad with the Bush deficits but instead put Bush spending on steroids
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If you attribute most of fiscal year 2009 to George W. Bush then, after adjusting for inflation, federal spending under Obama has actually dropped by 0.1 percent. Politifact checked the numbers and agreed: “Using raw dollars, Obama did oversee the lowest annual increases in spending of any president in 60 years,” they write. “Using inflation-adjusted dollars, Obama had the second-lowest increase -- in fact, he actually presided over a decrease.”
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Adagio said:
If you attribute most of fiscal year 2009 to George W. Bush then, after adjusting for inflation, federal spending under Obama has actually dropped by 0.1 percent. Politifact checked the numbers and agreed: “Using raw dollars, Obama did oversee the lowest annual increases in spending of any president in 60 years,” they write. “Using inflation-adjusted dollars, Obama had the second-lowest increase -- in fact, he actually presided over a decrease.”
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Sit down, make yourself comfortable, have another glass of Kool Ade, and enjoy. U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
Well then, you have confused your head with your thumb, and your ass with my eye. :)
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I came here to debate with intelligent posters. You aren't one of them. I have no interest in an exchange of mindless quips and insults with the mentally challenged. A debate forum, and this is one, is a place to make your case. Debates aren't short insults. They're a place to present an idea. If you can't read beyond a parapgraph, then go back to school. Write an editorial to make your case, and then defend it. If you can't, amateur night is usually on Wednesday's.
 
Grant said:
Ever wonder why Liberals occasionally find themselves on 'enemy lists'?
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No. Enemies of who? Conservatives? I wonder why people are so paranoid to make them in the first place? And they're always conservatives. They're a scared bunch of idiots that always looks for a boogyman under the bed. So they make lists of enemies. Like Hitler, McCarthy, Nixon, The NRA. They hate those that don't buy the ideology. And they make stupid lists. And when the lists are exposed, they are so gutless they take them down just like the NRA did.
 
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Travis007 said:
well all know the libs cant win a debate... the low information crowd is a hoot..
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You don't debate. You throw darts. That's not a demonstration of anything. A child can do that.
 
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Travis007 said:
yep... its painful to debate these low info Libs.... its like Candy Crowley, as soon as we start nailing them then just start lying ...

did you know

Obama has created 9,000,0000, 0000 new jobs

Obama has saved the oceans

Obama has cut 78,0000,0000,000 in deficit

Obama has increased the military by 80,000,000,0000 good paying jobs

Obama has Iran on its knees

Obama has never taken a vacation

Obama played for the Chicago Bulls and taught Jordan how to play

Obama speaks 45 languages

Obama has spent by 45,0000,00000,0000 less then GWB

Obama has had it harder then any other President, and GWB dealing with 9/11 wa nothing compared to Obama having to go on MSNBC

Obama has made infants into genius's

Obama saved Chicago

Obama killed UBL with a vulcan mind melt

Obama is from Nebraska

Obama worked in the private sector and created Amazon


dont make me go on...this diety is beyond reproach
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That's probably the dumbest post on this thread. Posting over the top BS isn't a debate.:bs
 
Fenton said:
That's the year the Nobel Commision was struck with a acute highly invasive form of syphilis. It had moved into the tertiary stage by the time Obama, Krugman and Gore's names had come up for consideration.

Sure they gave them Nobel Prizes, but they also thought they were sitting on Mars drinking Shirley Temples.
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It's pretty tough when a conservative never gets it isn't it?
 
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Adagio said:
I came here to debate with intelligent posters. You aren't one of them. I have no interest in an exchange of mindless quips and insults with the mentally challenged . A debate forum, and this is one, is a place to make your case. Debates aren't short insults. They're a place to present an idea. If you can't read beyond a parapgraph, then go back to school. Write an editorial to make your case, and then defend it. If you can't, amateur night is usually on Wednesday's.
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Oh, the irony. :)
 
Adagio said:
I came here to debate with intelligent posters. You aren't one of them. I have no interest in an exchange of mindless quips and insults with the mentally challenged. A debate forum, and this is one, is a place to make your case. Debates aren't short insults. They're a place to present an idea. If you can't read beyond a parapgraph, then go back to school. Write an editorial to make your case, and then defend it. If you can't, amateur night is usually on Wednesday's.
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Adagio said:
No. Enemies of who? Conservatives? I wonder why people are so paranoid to make them in the first place? And they're always conservatives. They're a scared bunch of idiots that always looks for a boogyman under the bed. So they make lists of enemies. Like Hitler, McCarthy, Nixon, The NRA. They hate those that don't buy the ideology. And they make stupid lists. And when the lists are exposed, they are so gutless they take them down just like the NRA did.
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Adagio said:
You don't debate. You throw darts. That's not a demonstration of anything. A child can do that.
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Adagio said:
That's probably the dumbest post on this thread. Posting over the top BS isn't a debate.:bs
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Adagio said:
It's pretty tough when a conservative never gets it isn't it?
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Dinner is served.

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poweRob said:
Oh look at that... Forbes refutes you and all other republicans that bark that nonsense.

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Lol! Only when you disinclude the 18% jump in the first year, as pointed out by your article.

Not to mention, he has managed to maintain that level of spending, even after the stimulus was over with.

Fact is, he's added more debt in 4 years then Bush did in 8.
 
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poweRob said:
Oh look at that... Forbes refutes you and all other republicans that bark that nonsense.

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Politifact leans left. Stop pointing to that damn site just because of its name. Its NOT a good fact checking site, its NOT nuetral and its NOT to be believed. You are pointing back to that marketwatch bull**** AGAIN. How many times can that be revealed to be a steaming pile of **** before you liberals will stop trying to tell people its roses?

To get the results to come out that way you have to: ignore the fact that Obama signed the 2009 budget resolution--not Bush, ignore TARP spending but COUNT TARP repays, ignore the Stimulus, and push all military spending resolutions into 2009 rather than the ongoing that were passed after Obama enterered office.

Its a damned joke and its cherry picking data relentlessly, the fact Politifact says its true says more about them then it does about the story they are rating---IE they have a dog in the hunt and are not non partisan fact checkers.
 
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poweRob said:
Right... So much for that claim.

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A CNN source with very close to the U.S. Secret Service confirmed to me today that threats on the life of the president of the United States have now risen by as much as 400 percent since his inauguration, 400 percent death threats against Barack Obama — quote — “in this environment” go far beyond anything the Secret Service has seen with any other president.
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Anonymous source heard from someone else....and its on Rick Sanchez's show. Pardon me if I find that dubious to say the least.
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Politifact leans left. Stop pointing to that damn site just because of its name. Its NOT a good fact checking site, its NOT nuetral and its NOT to be believed. You are pointing back to that marketwatch bull**** AGAIN. How many times can that be revealed to be a steaming pile of **** before you liberals will stop trying to tell people its roses?

To get the results to come out that way you have to: ignore the fact that Obama signed the 2009 budget resolution--not Bush, ignore TARP spending but COUNT TARP repays, ignore the Stimulus, and push all military spending resolutions into 2009 rather than the ongoing that were passed after Obama enterered office.

Its a damned joke and its cherry picking data relentlessly, the fact Politifact says its true says more about them then it does about the story they are rating---IE they have a dog in the hunt and are not non partisan fact checkers.
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You're quick. So quick in fact that you missed that I edited and changed the link to a Forbes story. Just because I new someone would complain about politifact.
 
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poweRob said:
You're quick. So quick in fact that you missed that I edited and changed the link to a Forbes story. Just because I new someone would complain about politifact.
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Who cares the Forbes article pointed right back to Marketwatch? The original data was deeply flawed, who calls it true doesnt matter, because it isn't. My original comment stands:
To get the results to come out that way you have to: ignore the fact that Obama signed the 2009 budget resolution--not Bush, ignore TARP spending but COUNT TARP repays, ignore the Stimulus, and push all military spending resolutions into 2009 rather than the ongoing that were passed after Obama enterered office.
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