Panetta Testifies Obama Absent Night of Benghazi.....

Unitedwestand13 said:

so you are blaming obama for not knowing exactly when and where the
attack was going to happen. you also seem to ignore the fact that the attackers chose to attack the consulate at the same time as protests in Benghazi and Cairo were also going on. we were focused on the protests when the attack started.

Click to expand...

Oh BS, if our allies knew it was dangerous after a HOLE WAS BLOWN INTO THE CONSULATES COMPOUND WALL then Obama and Clinton knew as well.

I guess you forgot about the sworn testimony that clearly shows the State Dept and the CIA knew immediately it wasn't a "protest".

Are you THAT dense ?

It must be a pain that in order to be a Democrat you have to trade in a semblance of integrity.

It didn't use to be this way. Progressives hijacked the democrat party.

Unitedwestand13 said:

But there were protest In Egypt, and who said the protests had to be
outside the consulate?

Click to expand...

you people fail to realize that video was purposely publicized by our Obama lovin media to perpetuate the lie and further his narrative that it was a "protest".

The Obama adminsitration Knowingly pushed the video to ramp up exzra protest and the loss of lives to back their lie.

Chaddelamancha said:

If people were more focused on how to prevent this from happening
again and less focused on pointing fingers, I might be inclined to care about their position more. I do believe mistakes were made, but not anything criminal. Mistakes happen, our government is humans. Let's try and focus on not letting anymore of our ambassadors/soldiers/citizens die at the hands of terrorists.

Click to expand...

How morally bankrupt can you be ?

Chaddelamancha said:

You are going to have to point out to me where someone has said the President Obama PURPOSELY avoided doing anything that his SecDef or any other agency asked him to do during the incident. I haven't seen any of that yet. You can keep saying that he was absent, or off playing patty cake with Michelle, but you haven't shown me where he did anything incompetent. He left the situation in the hands of the people who job it is.

Click to expand...

Your response is silly

A) I never said Obama "avoided" doing anything. We KNOW beyond all doubt HE DID NOTHING

B) Nobody claimed he was "playing pattycake with Michelle". This is you attempting to objectify/characterize inconvenient facts which you cannot refute. It only makes your position look petty and weak.

Obama DID NOTHING. Obama LIED. You cannot refute that. Logically there are only 2 explanations. Incompetence or purposeful refusal to act. It's not my job to wake you from your Obama induced coma of cult worship. When you're able to think on your own, feel to provide a response that actually addresses the irrefutable facts that were brought up in the previous post. Otherwise, good luck with whatever you are trying to accomplish.

Chaddelamancha said:

If people were more focused on how to prevent this from happening again and less focused on pointing fingers, I might be inclined to care about their position more. I do believe mistakes were made, but not anything criminal. Mistakes happen, our government is humans. Let's try and focus on not letting anymore of our ambassadors/soldiers/citizens die at the hands of terrorists.

Click to expand...

Just how was that to take place since no one has questioned the Cleric in Egypt and addressed the issue of having people rise up and Protest with Riots and in another Country? While using social media to do so.

Mistakes get made but not missing warnings the Size of a barn that anyone else could read. Must mean there was something going on to keep people around. When others had pulled their people out. Such as the Turks, Brits, French, and the Italians. Do you think they all might have known something we didn't? Did we know something they didn't?

Most others would have known once the Consulate was attacked twice Previously within the year and that there was no real government to guaranteed US personnel and their Safety. So this cannot be used as an excuse. Protocols would be required to protect US Assets. None were put in place.

But let try and hold all responsible who failed to understand to take even the most basic of steps.....Accountable!

:roll: Morally bankrupt because I want to prevent further American deaths?

Keep it classy, dude.

Fenton said:

How morally bankrupt can you be ?

Click to expand...

Obama didn't do "anything" (I am sure your opinion and mine of anything is different) because he has people who's job it is to take care of situations like that. In a time of crisis, he would be nothing more than a huge roadblock for those who know exactly what to do and when to do it.

Bronson said:

Your response is silly

A) I never said Obama "avoided" doing anything. We KNOW beyond all doubt HE DID NOTHING

B) Nobody claimed he was "playing pattycake with Michelle". This is you attempting to objectify/characterize inconvenient facts which you cannot refute. It only makes your position look petty and weak.

Obama DID NOTHING. Obama LIED. You cannot refute that. Logically there are only 2 explanations. Incompetence or purposeful refusal to act. It's not my job to wake you from your Obama induced coma of cult worship. When you're able to think on your own, feel to provide a response that actually addresses the irrefutable facts that were brought up in the previous post. Otherwise, good luck with whatever you are trying to accomplish.

Click to expand...

Do you understand the plethora of people that have to miss this before it even makes it to the President?

MMC said:

Just how was that to take place since no one has questioned the Cleric in Egypt and addressed the issue of having people rise up and Protest with Riots and in another Country? While using social media to do so.

Mistakes get made but not missing warnings the Size of a barn that anyone else could read. Must mean there was something going on to keep people around. When others had pulled their people out. Such as the Turks, Brits, French, and the Italians. Do you think they all might have known something we didn't? Did we know something they didn't?

Most others would have known once the Consulate was attacked twice Previously within the year and that there was no real government to guaranteed US personnel and their Safety. So this cannot be used as an excuse. Protocols would be required to protect US Assets. None were put in place.

But let try and hold all responsible who failed to understand to take even the most basic of steps.....Accountable!

Click to expand...

Chaddelamancha said:

Do you understand the plethora of people that have to miss this before it even makes it to the President?

Click to expand...

Doesn't really matter as it stains that party even more. Which they don't have a good track record as is. Moreover if it takes out Hillary's ambitions and she cant make the grade......due to HER MAJOR screw up. As well proves they had it wrong all along. Then there will be others forced out as well. Never to be brought back around to cause anymore mistakes as you say.

Also it will go down as Obama's failure since it was on his watch. Even if it is not directly connected to him. So it will also be learned to not do as Obama did nor any of his people.

Chaddelamancha said:

Obama didn't do "anything" (I am sure your opinion and mine of anything is different) because he has people who's job it is to take care of situations like that. In a time of crisis, he would be nothing more than a huge roadblock for those who know exactly what to do and when to do it.

Click to expand...

You're not worth my time. This will be the last time I engage you.

Your false premise was refuted in the first post. You're just dancing around in circles of Obama Worship. The facts don't matter. The only thing that matters to you is that Obama cannot be held responsible for anything.

Only Obama could have ordered a cross border operation. He did nothing.

Also, he is ultimately responsible for the people that he appoints. If he appoints incompetent people that makes him incompetent. Not once did he check in with Panetta during the 8 hours attack to check on the status of the situation. Panetta admitted this in testimony. He did nothing as he jetted off to Vegas. Meanwhile, an Ambassador and many other Americans were fighting for their lives. 4 people died, including Ambassador Stevens.

It's not my job to wake you up from your Obama induced coma of cult worship. If you can't hold the Commander in Chief responsible for anything, it's just not my problem. This is the pattern with all Obama Supporters. Obama is not responsible for anything. Ever. It's irrational.

Chaddelamancha said:

:roll: Morally bankrupt because I
want to prevent further American deaths?

Keep it classy, dude.

Click to expand...

No morally bankrupt because your priority is to "not point fingers" after 4 Americans lost their lives due to the incompetence of those who should have been lookingvout for them.

Not point fingers after the administration that was supppsed to keep them safe lied to these peoples families accusing a film maker over the truth.

And then lied to us. But yea, "lets not point fingers".

You chose partisan politics over the lives of these Americans. If you were sincerely concerned you would want people to be held responsible but " lets not point fingers "

And I'm without class ?

If I knew all it took for this to happen, was to have a differing opinion than you, I might have done so earlier.

Bronson said:

You're not worth my time. This will be the last time I engage you.

Click to expand...

The point of the OP was to present Obama as being "absent" or not doing anything during the actual attack. Nowhere did I claim that people weren't responsible for what happened. This isn't about partisan politics, I am assuming you saw my lean and incorrectly assumed I voted/and or like Obama. I didn't and I don't.

You want to put blame on this, it goes on Hillary, as she was assigned the responsibility to protect our ambassadors overseas. At worst you can blame Obama for appointing Hillary.

Classy people don't hurl insults.

Fenton said:

No morally bankrupt because your priority is to "not point fingers" after 4 Americans lost their lives due to the incompetence of those who should have been lookingvout for them.

Not point fingers after the administration that was supppsed to keep them safe lied to these peoples families accusing a film maker over the truth.

And then lied to us. But yea, "lets not point fingers".

You chose partisan politics over the lives of these Americans. If you were sincerely concerned you would want people to be held responsible but " lets not point fingers "

And I'm without class ?

Click to expand...

Fenton said:

No morally bankrupt because your priority is to "not point fingers" after 4 Americans lost their lives due to the incompetence of those who should have been lookingvout for them.

Not point fingers after the administration that was supppsed to keep them safe lied to these peoples families accusing a film maker over the truth.

And then lied to us. But yea, "lets not point fingers".

You chose partisan politics over the lives of these Americans. If you were sincerely concerned you would want people to be held responsible but " lets not point fingers "

And I'm without class ?

Click to expand...

How many hearings will it take to find what you are looking for.

No reinforcements were on hand at any of the bases near Libya, and the ones that were closest were owned by our allies who probably did not a garrison of u.s marines at their base. And even if there were available reinforcements, they would have arrived too late to do anything about the attack.

Again we cannot have predicted the exact attack. The only thing we knew is that there was a threat of a attack, but we did not know exactly when it would happen, how it would happen, or who would attack.

Unitedwestand13 said:

How many hearings will it take to find what you are looking for.



No reinforcements were on hand at any of the bases near Libya, and the ones that were closest were owned by our allies who probably did not a garrison of u.s marines at their base. And even if there were available reinforcements, they would have arrived too late to do anything about the attack.

Again we cannot have predicted the exact attack. The only thing we knew is that there was a threat of a attack, but we did not know exactly when it would happen, how it would happen, or who would attack.

Click to expand...

No reinforcemnts ? In that area of the world where Islamic extremist have been popping up, assuming power and denouncing Israel ?

No reinforcments in AFRICOM that includes the Countries that make up the sum total threat to the US ? Lybia, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Egypt, Mali, Congo....

Are you serious ?

Gen Hamm stated we had a drone their in 17 minutes. Any half brained retarded Chimpanzee could have predicted that attack on 9/11...

After two prior attacks.

All western countries pulled their people out prior to 9/11/12. A hole was blown into the compound wall and there was an attempted attack earlier.

I don't know what hearings you watched but a I saw were a bunch of lying disgusting individuals covering their ass.

Nope I'm not so gullible to think a 10 day lie about a video the US media publicized wasn't a manufactured narrative put into place from day one to take the stink off Obama prior election.

That they let those people die because a huge publicized rescue attempt would have countered Obama's Arab Spring "accomplishment".

There's no excuse. Just lies. Your suited gentetically to believe them, in a micro second I see through them.

As Clinton wispered into the Fathers ear as his sons body draped in an American flag was unloaded off the C-17 transport, " we'll get the guy who made that movie "

Bronson said:

You're not worth my time. This will be the last time I engage you.

Your false premise was refuted in the first post. You're just dancing around in circles of Obama Worship. The facts don't matter. The only thing that matters to you is that Obama cannot be held responsible for anything.

Only Obama could have ordered a cross border operation. He did nothing.

Also, he is ultimately responsible for the people that he appoints. If he appoints incompetent people that makes him incompetent. Not once did he check in with Panetta during the 8 hours attack to check on the status of the situation. Panetta admitted this in testimony. He did nothing as he jetted off to Vegas. Meanwhile, an Ambassador and many other Americans were fighting for their lives. 4 people died, including Ambassador Stevens.

It's not my job to wake you up from your Obama induced coma of cult worship. If you can't hold the Commander in Chief responsible for anything, it's just not my problem. This is the pattern with all Obama Supporters. Obama is not responsible for anything. Ever. It's irrational.

Click to expand...

I agree 100% Bronson... not worthy..

Chaddelamancha said:

Obama didn't do "anything" (I am sure your opinion and mine of anything is different) because he has people who's job it is to take care of situations like that. In a time of crisis, he would be nothing more than a huge roadblock for those who know exactly what to do and when to do it.

Click to expand...

Your posts are nonsense... Obama is scum

For all of you who claimed that Benghazi was a non issue, looks like all those whistle blowers in government disagree with you...Patraeus is supposed to testify before the Congressional hearing, I wonder if the rumors are true, that the affair he resigned over really wasnt the real reason he resigned but the incompetence of this administration & its handling of Benghazi were the real reasons.

If all the whistle blowers are to be believed (because they are all saying things that contradict the Administrations story) then the Benghazi situation was a cluster **** in how they handled it.

Like I said before and got trashed for it in this thread, Obama wasnt as "hands on" as he claimed he was and the situation there spun out of control because no one did anything...actually they did do something, they told the people who were going to help to "stand down".

Sometimes I hate being right. We shall find out soon enough.


On another note; Sources told us that the IRS auditing of conservative groups & non Democratic supporters leak was intentional as a distraction from the Benghazi hearings...and somehow Bush will get the blame for the IRS audits, probably through one of his left over appointees in the IRS. Wag the dog.

Imnukingfutz said:

For all of you who claimed that Benghazi was a non issue, looks like all those whistle blowers in government disagree with you...Patraeus is supposed to testify before the Congressional hearing, I wonder if the rumors are true, that the affair he resigned over really wasnt the real reason he resigned but the incompetence of this administration & its handling of Benghazi were the real reasons.

If all the whistle blowers are to be believed (because they are all saying things that contradict the Administrations story) then the Benghazi situation was a cluster **** in how they handled it.

Like I said before and got trashed for it in this thread, Obama wasnt as "hands on" as he claimed he was and the situation there spun out of control because no one did anything...actually they did do something, they told the people who were going to help to "stand down".

Sometimes I hate being right. We shall find out soon enough.


On another note; Sources told us that the IRS auditing of conservative groups & non Democratic supporters leak was intentional as a distraction from the Benghazi hearings...and somehow Bush will get the blame for the IRS audits, probably through one of his left over appointees in the IRS. Wag the dog.

Click to expand...

Yeah, I know I put up others sources about with what took place here. I was told those didn't apply even tho it was validating what Panetta, Dempsey, and Clinton testified too.

MMC said:

Yeah, I know I put up others sources about with what took place here. I was told those didn't apply even tho it was validating what Panetta, Dempsey, and Clinton testified too.

Click to expand...

Well, at least they didn't just use the seemingly tactic of the day with libs, which is to simply read the facts you lay out, then reply a simple...."You lie".

j-mac said:

Well, at least they didn't just use the seemingly tactic of the day with libs, which is to simply read the facts you lay out, then reply a simple...."You lie".

Click to expand...

Heya J-mac :2wave: Yeah, I had a couple tell me what I put didn't jive with what Team Obama was saying. Even while denying what they are and still saying others things such as about investigations in Libya and whatnot. Even had a few denying Fact Checkers and saying they don't see how they apply to some new story or Team Obama. Nor the Democrats. Usually just the Republicans and their Conspiracy Theories.

So I figured I try to do something with that by trying to get people to look at the News Sources then comment on how I have it down. I wont even add commentary. Just ask questions and validate the Story applies or not. Then How it affects Each. Team Obama, Repubs, and then Demos.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...ry-relevent-bengazi-story.html#post1061801432

Check it out. Hopefully we can get something going with this.

Uh-oh. Obama's getting testy.

If, like the New York Times, ABC News, the LA Times, CNN, Fox, and even Dennis Kucinich, you think there's something bad about a President covering up a terrorist attack for political gain, you're focusing on the wrong thing.

Sure, there were twelve revisions to the talking points, and yeah, ok, they were designed to remove any mention of terrorism, but all that is just "a sideshow." That's the word from a visibly angry President Obama, who was asked a question about last week's hearings during today's joint presser with David Cameron.

In his response, he dismissed the whole talking points issue. He would prefer that - instead of focusing on how his administration fabricated a demonstration in Libya - you pay attention to all the great things he's done to beef up security in the wake of its non-existence.

"There's no there there," Obama said. "If this was some effort on our part to try to downplay what had happened or tamp it down, that would be a pretty odd thing that three days later we end up putting out all the information that in fact has now served as the basis for everybody recognizing that this was a terrorist attack."

"Who executes some sort of cover-up, or effort to tamp things down, for three days?"

To answer the President's question: anyone who realizes that their cover-up is so full of holes that it's not going to be able to do the job. The official story was falling apart even before Rice tried to sell the lie on the Sunday morning shows. Afterward, it was obvious the company line wasn't going to withstand any sort of real scrutiny.

Yet, publicly, they still clung to it for another two weeks.

Remember, it was September 25th that Obama went to the UN and continued to blame "the video."

So, the President’s answer is really just more deflection. We still don’t know who gave the order to “stand down” and we still don’t know who decided to create and blame a completely fictional mob of demonstrators.

But at least he’s told the mainstream press what it’s supposed to say....

j-mac said:

Well, at least they didn't just use the seemingly tactic of the day with libs, which is to simply read the facts you lay out, then reply a simple...."You lie".

Click to expand...

Nah, usually they say...

Perspective is everything. Sort of funny. Me...I'd think that making the statement that the CiC was nowhere to be found on this, was uninformed, that he went to bed while it was occurring and that he didnt drag his ass to the red line and call the Sec of Defense and/or the Sec of State is about the absolute worst condemnation of the president you could possibly make. But thats just me.

Where are the Situation Room pics?