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Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Sadly, according to the data from the ARGO Array of buoys, the ocean is cooling. No much, but it's cooling.

Cooling aids sequestration. The problem with the hypothesis, though, is that the world should be warming and it's cooling. The ocean should be warming and it's cooling.

The facts simply are not on your side.

Climate Change is not just about tempature.

Don't believe man can change the enviroment? Look up the Aral Sea and how one of the largest inland seas in the world has become little more then a lake.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Fabricated. Like I said, deluding yourself against science. :coffeepap




You have never shown any science to support the basis of your claims.

Your only claim is that there are many people who say the same thing.

Nobody has denied this. Why do you continue to argue?
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

So, it I dump a lot of chemicals into a lake, I can't effect that lake? Tis is a small example, but if I believe you that we can't effect the planet, then I can't effect the lake, or the forest, or any other eco structure. Do you really believe that?



Straw Man. That's not the argument.
 
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Just show one scientific organization that says the AGW is a Scientific Theory.

The consensus is a beauty contest. After more than 100 years of trying to prove this tripe, the Diehards still have not been able to pronounce it a theory.

You are free to proceed.

Instead of doing your homework for you again, why don't you show me one significant scientific organization that has specifically rejected the theory?
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Climate Change is not just about tempature.

Don't believe man can change the enviroment? Look up the Aral Sea and how one of the largest inland seas in the world has become little more then a lake.



AGW argues that the increase os CO2 is caused by Man. It goes on to say that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and therefore the climate will warm as a result of the additional green house effect.

If the warming is not occurring, and it's not, then the basis of the hypothesis is removed. With the basis removed, the hypothesis is invalid.

If it was valid, then the assertion that man can control and direct the climate of the planet would be within our grasp and yet the experts in the field cannot even predict the future temperature a decade out, much less control and direct it.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

AGW argues that the increase os CO2 is caused by Man. It goes on to say that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and therefore the climate will warm as a result of the additional green house effect.

If the warming is not occurring, and it's not, then the basis of the hypothesis is removed. With the basis removed, the hypothesis is invalid.

If it was valid, then the assertion that man can control and direct the climate of the planet would be within our grasp and yet the experts in the field cannot even predict the future temperature a decade out, much less control and direct it.

But co2 is a greenhouse gas, are you saying it is not a green house gas?
 
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Climate Change is not just about tempature.

Don't believe man can change the enviroment? Look up the Aral Sea and how one of the largest inland seas in the world has become little more then a lake.

This reminds me of those poor souls that thought that earthquakes happened because they angered the gods.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Climate Change is not just about tempature.

Don't believe man can change the enviroment? Look up the Aral Sea and how one of the largest inland seas in the world has become little more then a lake.

Most of us do believe man can change the environment. Most of us just don't believe that CO2 is the primary climate change variable.

As for that lake, it's easy to divert water for irrigation that fed it.
 
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Instead of doing your homework for you again, why don't you show me one significant scientific organization that has specifically rejected the theory?

Interesting.

The good 'ol prove something doesn't exist argument.

Don't you know better?
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

But co2 is a greenhouse gas, are you saying it is not a green house gas?

Well, my take is yes. It is a greenhouse gas. However, that doesn't mean it has the most influence of what we base climate change on. Now where I would say Code is either technically wrong, or misspoke, is saying AGW means CO2. I read his words as meaning implying CO2 only, but I would distinguish the hypothesis as meaning CO2 is the largest contributor. That is where I strongly disagree.

Yes, CO2 has a minor role in climate change, and is also rather dependent of what you mean by climate change. Climate change is a catch all phrasing that the alarmist community went to.

There are so many factors that change climate. Starting with the sun, it is the source of almost all the earth's heat. A minor change in solar heat doesn't seem like much. Most of us think in terms of Celsius of Fahrenheit. However, when doing any math with temperature and heat other than addition and subtraction, one must first convert to kelvin. Scientists agree that the earth's average is about 15 C, or 288 K. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that a long term solar change in tenths of a percent make a notable change.

Keep in mind, any temperature in Celsius equals to a number 273.15 higher in Kelvin.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Thank you Lord of Planar for pointing out that the sun is a factor. Such a shocking revelation.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

So why are you so **** sure about the validity of something that is not proven, has more holes than a fishing net and has yet to be classified as a Scientific theory by any science organization on the planet. This FACT all by itself allows ample room for doubt.

Those of us who have doubts seem to be complimented by what you lead off your post with.

Is there no room in your faith for doubt?

I generally don't respond to your posts as they're abnormally silly but... you really need to be slapped for this nonsense you spam everywhere.

I never said I was 100% sure of prevailing climate change science. I think its the best science available and far more credible than anything the deniers present. I don't rail against legitimate skeptics, their job is important to the scientific community. Deniers are different than skeptics. You are a denier, LoP is a denier. You don't frame challenges to climate change in an honest, pragmatic, sensible manner. You blurt out tidbits of pseudo science all the while denigrating every aspect of the solid science being performed by the larger scientific body.

The terminology you use is offensive and controversial. You call science faith. You say that climate change science is chalk full of holes as though it is some kind of amateur kludged garbage thrown together on a whim. You then call it "fact".

You're basically a human form of a fossil fuel industry propaganda / disinformation campaign. If you think that crap you read is anything close to "expert" opinion or grounded in solid science, you're going to have a very skewed sense of reality. I suggest you get a good book on integrated science and have a read through it. Learn the scientific method and what good sources look like. Learn some critical thinking skills along the way and you can leave this denier nonsense in the past.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

A fabricated hockey stick used to play hockey with is believable.

A fabricated hockey graf used to hoodwink people is for suckers.

:lamo:lamo:lamo

No.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Straw Man. That's not the argument.

No, it is the argument. He said we can't effect the environment. Can we or can't we?
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

No, it is the argument. He said we can't effect the environment. Can we or can't we?
My God.

You changed the argument, and expect people to think you win on a point?
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

My God.

You changed the argument, and expect people to think you win on a point?

Didn't change anything. He made a claim, I challenged by starting on a smaller plane. If he answers, well move forward. You can try and answer if you want.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Didn't change anything. He made a claim, I challenged by starting on a smaller plane. If he answers, well move forward. You can try and answer if you want.

His claim specified warming. The argument was changed.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

His claim specified warming. The argument was changed.

Is that not part of the environment? If I can effect one, can't I effect another? Like I said, I started smaller.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Is that not part of the environment? If I can effect one, can't I effect another? Like I said, I started smaller.

Did he saw we don't change our environment?

Again, he specified warming. A part of environment, not the environment.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

You have to love it when conservatives pretend to admire the UN and its findings.
 
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Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

You have to love it when conservative pretend to admire the UN and its findings.

Even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut. ;)
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Is that not part of the environment? If I can effect one, can't I effect another? Like I said, I started smaller.

Can effect the climate and having a major negative impact on the climate are not "the same". ;)
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut. ;)

When I think of the squirrel and the nut, I think of the alarmists chasing their coveted CO2:

 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Did he saw we don't change our environment?

Again, he specified warming. A part of environment, not the environment.

Yes, a part. Water s also a part. Neither is the whole. Both are part. Easier to see water. But if I can effect water, doesn't it stand to reason I can effect land? Air? Warming?
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Can effect the climate and having a major negative impact on the climate are not "the same". ;)

True. But if I can have an effect, isn't then conceivable that I can also have a major negative impact? The science was we have. He said it wasn't possible. Of course, it is possible.
 
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