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Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global [W:478]

Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

If that is what you wish to believe, then fine. It doesn't matter to me. I find it odd that people prefer to discredit me than my words. That tells me you have no valid argument against my words.

I've only seen bs from you, no real analysis. I only knowledge you sucked what was clearly shown to be inaccurate.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

I've only seen bs from you, no real analysis. I only knowledge you sucked what was clearly shown to be inaccurate.
Maybe I'm tired of repeating myself. read some of the other AGW threads I'm in.
 
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Replying to the links in order:

Skeptical Science? Come on , Man. Use a credible source.

97% of climate scientists? That figure is bogus. It is complied by Warmists who discarded the 66% that gave no opinion. That is 97% of the 33% who have an strong feeling the race of man is evil.

Scientific consensus on anthropogenic climate change
<snip>
After limiting the selection to peer-reviewed climate science, the study considered 11 994 papers written by 29 083 authors in 1980 different scientific journals.
The abstracts from these papers were randomly distributed between a team of 24 volunteers recruited through the "myth-busting" website skepticalscience.com, who used set criteria to determine the level to which the abstracts endorsed that humans are the primary cause of global warming. Each abstract was analyzed by two independent, anonymous raters.
From the 11,994 papers, 32.6 per cent endorsed AGW, 66.4 per cent stated no position on AGW, 0.7 per cent rejected AGW and in 0.3 per cent of papers, the authors said the cause of global warming was uncertain.
<snip>

The headline of the third link claims that warming is linked to the activities of man, but the article does not produce the goods. If there is a nugget in there, you will need to CUT AND PASTE THAT NUGGET. As it is, it says it's warm outside. Big whoop!
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Replying to the links in order:

Skeptical Science? Come on , Man. Use a credible source.

97% of climate scientists? That figure is bogus. It is complied by Warmists who discarded the 66% that gave no opinion. That is 97% of the 33% who have an strong feeling the race of man is evil.

Scientific consensus on anthropogenic climate change
<snip>
After limiting the selection to peer-reviewed climate science, the study considered 11 994 papers written by 29 083 authors in 1980 different scientific journals.
The abstracts from these papers were randomly distributed between a team of 24 volunteers recruited through the "myth-busting" website skepticalscience.com, who used set criteria to determine the level to which the abstracts endorsed that humans are the primary cause of global warming. Each abstract was analyzed by two independent, anonymous raters.
From the 11,994 papers, 32.6 per cent endorsed AGW, 66.4 per cent stated no position on AGW, 0.7 per cent rejected AGW and in 0.3 per cent of papers, the authors said the cause of global warming was uncertain.
<snip>

The headline of the third link claims that warming is linked to the activities of man, but the article does not produce the goods. If there is a nugget in there, you will need to CUT AND PASTE THAT NUGGET. As it is, it says it's warm outside. Big whoop!


Maybe that opinion in Non Skeptic Science he posted should be viewed the same way he rails against the opinions in the American Thinker he so hates....I have a feeling he hates them because he can not intelligently refute them.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Maybe I'm tired of repeating myself. read some of the other AGW threads I'm in.

I don't recall seeing aNything different.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Replying to the links in order:

Skeptical Science? Come on , Man. Use a credible source.

97% of climate scientists? That figure is bogus. It is complied by Warmists who discarded the 66% that gave no opinion. That is 97% of the 33% who have an strong feeling the race of man is evil.

Scientific consensus on anthropogenic climate change
<snip>
After limiting the selection to peer-reviewed climate science, the study considered 11 994 papers written by 29 083 authors in 1980 different scientific journals.
The abstracts from these papers were randomly distributed between a team of 24 volunteers recruited through the "myth-busting" website skepticalscience.com, who used set criteria to determine the level to which the abstracts endorsed that humans are the primary cause of global warming. Each abstract was analyzed by two independent, anonymous raters.
From the 11,994 papers, 32.6 per cent endorsed AGW, 66.4 per cent stated no position on AGW, 0.7 per cent rejected AGW and in 0.3 per cent of papers, the authors said the cause of global warming was uncertain.
<snip>

The headline of the third link claims that warming is linked to the activities of man, but the article does not produce the goods. If there is a nugget in there, you will need to CUT AND PASTE THAT NUGGET. As it is, it says it's warm outside. Big whoop!

Nonsense. I quoted peer review journals as well on all of that. I'm sure you and j prefer the American nonThinker and conservapedia, but the fact remains, there us a clear and overwhelming consensus.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Maybe that opinion in Non Skeptic Science he posted should be viewed the same way he rails against the opinions in the American Thinker he so hates....I have a feeling he hates them because he can not intelligently refute them.

Feel free. But note they are backed up by peer reviewed articles.

As for the rest of your post: :lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Nonsense. I quoted peer review journals as well on all of that. I'm sure you and j prefer the American nonThinker and conservapedia, but the fact remains, there us a clear and overwhelming consensus.



I responded to the post and the links in that post.

The nugget you were going to provide from the third link seems to be missing.

Could you please post that by using the technique called cut and paste?
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Boo Radley, you're wasting your time. These people run these games over and over. They change their position every post to refute whatever it is you're saying. They demand you provide "proof". Once you provide proof they claim its a conspiracy or there is something wrong with it. They just go in loops trying to tire people out so that they can spew their bs without rebuttal. Being that this forum is dominated by conservatives its not hard to do.

No matter how well you destroy their arguments over and over, 100 out of 100, they will come back the next day saying the same crap and all their little helpers will chime in with the same bs they said the week before that was easily destroyed.

I don't know if they're paid or crazy, but its a lost cause really.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Maybe I'm tired of repeating myself. read some of the other AGW threads I'm in.

It gets tired doesn't it...

It's like talking to a wall with this boo boo guy/woman whatever...
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Boo Radley, you're wasting your time. These people run these games over and over. They change their position every post to refute whatever it is you're saying. They demand you provide "proof". Once you provide proof they claim its a conspiracy or there is something wrong with it. They just go in loops trying to tire people out so that they can spew their bs without rebuttal. Being that this forum is dominated by conservatives its not hard to do.

No matter how well you destroy their arguments over and over, 100 out of 100, they will come back the next day saying the same crap and all their little helpers will chime in with the same bs they said the week before that was easily destroyed.

I don't know if they're paid or crazy, but its a lost cause really.

On the contrary....

I don't even understand how you people live in bondage...... It's simply amazing.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

It gets tired doesn't it...

It's like talking to a wall with this boo boo guy/woman whatever...

What really gets tiring is seeing them post the same material that suggests AGW is primary, but has no evidence. Then, these people don't understand what the articles do not say, that are important to the discussion. Then they continue to act as if we don't acknowledge AGW when it is the amount that can be contributed to AGW that we disagree with.

I relate it to faith, religion, etc. because that is what it becomes when you have faith in a higher power/authority.

I see these warmers keep posting the same BS which must come from some leftist site as propaganda, then they accuse us of using the American Thinker, Conservapedia, etc.

At least I can describe in my own words what these articles say. It must really piss them off when i describe the holes in their holy dogma.
 
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On the contrary....

I don't even understand how you people live in bondage...... It's simply amazing.

I drank the kool aid when I was a teenager. I'm really not interested in the paranoid libertarian nonsense. The imaginary demons you're fighting don't bother me one bit.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

I drank the kool aid when I was a teenager. I'm really not interested in the paranoid libertarian nonsense. The imaginary demons you're fighting don't bother me one bit.
I can imaging the Charmed Ones...
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

What really gets tiring is seeing them post the same material that suggests AGW is primary, but has no evidence. Then, these people don't understand what the articles do not say, that are important to the discussion. Then they continue to act as if we don't acknowledge AGW when it is the amount that can be contributed to AGW that we disagree with.

I relate it to faith, religion, etc. because that is what it becomes when you have faith in a higher power/authority.

I see these warmers keep posting the same BS which must come from some leftist site as propaganda, then they accuse us of using the American Thinker, Conservapedia, etc.

At least I can describe in my own words what these articles say. It must really piss them off when i describe the holes in their holy dogma.

Yeah Lord. Mainstream science, 100's, 1000's? of organizations around the world are all wrong. But some guy that makes 10 bucks an hour fixing PC's knows the real truth. :roll: You're so egotistical to think you're some kind of zany science god that trumps NASA, the IPCC, the AMS, textbooks, encyclopedia's. They're ALL wrong, Lord of Bullsh1t is right.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

What really gets tiring is seeing them post the same material that suggests AGW is primary, but has no evidence. Then, these people don't understand what the articles do not say, that are important to the discussion. Then they continue to act as if we don't acknowledge AGW when it is the amount that can be contributed to AGW that we disagree with.

I relate it to faith, religion, etc. because that is what it becomes when you have faith in a higher power/authority.

I see these warmers keep posting the same BS which must come from some leftist site as propaganda, then they accuse us of using the American Thinker, Conservapedia, etc.

At least I can describe in my own words what these articles say. It must really piss them off when i describe the holes in their holy dogma.

You hit the nail on the head there...

It's what they "don't say."

Of course these are the same people who believe their media is honest and is telling the full story when they're not.

Partisan journalists "bury" facts that contradict their beliefs for no other reason other than the fact those said facts don't jibe with their propaganda...

I suppose let them eat cake...
 
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I drank the kool aid when I was a teenager. I'm really not interested in the paranoid libertarian nonsense. The imaginary demons you're fighting don't bother me one bit.

I did too but I switched to coffee and beer because I grew up...

I don't really give a **** if you're interested because I'm talking at you and not to you.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

You hit the nail on the head there...

It's what they "don't say."

Of course these are the same people who believe their media is honest and is telling the full story when they're not.

Partisan journalists "bury" facts that contradict their beliefs for no other reason other than the fact those said facts don't jibe with their propaganda...

I suppose let them eat cake...

You may want to brush up on critical thinking skills.

Sure the media is biased, but not everything they say is useless. If you're intelligent and know how to read between the lines you can extract a lot of useful information from them. If you're intelligent you also know to check with many different media outlets with opposing views. You also know to check the motives behind each media source, the author of the articles. You research it all and take away from it what you determine to have a decent amount of credibility. But this is all besides the point.

The media isn't the driving force behind climate change, scientists are. So dismissing media because they are biased and also dismissing climate change because some media champion it is not logical in the least but you went ahead and made that argument anyway.

Your arguments are bad, your logic is bad, but who cares right?
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

I did too but I switched to coffee and beer because I grew up...

I don't really give a **** if you're interested because I'm talking at you and not to you.

Yep. None of that koolaide. 100% juice, 3.xx% milk, coffee, water, and...

 
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Verax said:
Yeah Lord. Mainstream science, 100's, 1000's? of organizations around the world are all wrong.
Yes.

They are no longer legitimate news sources. They look at the bottom line, and only have stories that are sensational, and sells their product. They so often twist the truth themselves, or report other peoples deceptions with disregard to the truth.


Verax said:
But some guy that makes 10 bucks an hour fixing PC's knows the real truth. :roll:
My knowledge of PC is limited. I work with chemistry, physics, spectral analysis, and other related sciences to being an engineering technician. Ever do rapid research and development of automation equipment for the semiconductor industry? Any idea how many times I have been inside Intel's Portland Development fab in Hillsboro?

wiki: Chemical Mechanical Planarization


Verax said:
You're so egotistical to think you're some kind of zany science god that trumps NASA, the IPCC, the AMS, textbooks, encyclopedia's. They're ALL wrong, Lord of Bullsh1t is right.
I am guilty of being egotistical. I am also very good at my job and make more money than many engineers, and many PHDs.
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

You may want to brush up on critical thinking skills.

Sure the media is biased, but not everything they say is useless. If you're intelligent and know how to read between the lines you can extract a lot of useful information from them. If you're intelligent you also know to check with many different media outlets with opposing views. You also know to check the motives behind each media source, the author of the articles. You research it all and take away from it what you determine to have a decent amount of credibility. But this is all besides the point.

The media isn't the driving force behind climate change, scientists are. So dismissing media because they are biased and also dismissing climate change because some media champion it is not logical in the least but you went ahead and made that argument anyway.

Your arguments are bad, your logic is bad, but who cares right?

What is that an oxymoron?

I love how you progressives start off your ****ing posts...

I suppose my disagreements (and facts) don't jibe with your way of thinking so I must "need to brush up on something."

Did you ever think for once in your life that - that ****ing sentence is bait material for the zombies?? "no you need to reevaluate your ideas."

You ever bother to think for yourself?

Then you attempt to limit the propaganda outlets power??

Guess what dude? you're a product of the ****ing media, yet you're denying their influence???
 
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I don't really give a **** anymore..

Progressive and Neo-cons...

Let there be light or let there be darkness..

I would suggest opining your shades if you want facts instead of living like the "man in the box."
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Is ranting credible?
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

I responded to the post and the links in that post.

The nugget you were going to provide from the third link seems to be missing.

Could you please post that by using the technique called cut and paste?

I've done that already. I did it over many posts. Many sources.

Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature - IOPscience

However, these types of articles are something you really should read:

Denialism: what is it and how should scientists respond?

(Snip)

The third characteristic is selectivity, drawing on isolated papers that challenge the dominant consensus or high lighting the flaws in the weakest papers among those that support it as a means of discrediting the entire field.

http://eurpub.oxfordjournals.org/content/19/1/2.full.pdf
 
Re: Report shows UN admitting solar activity may play significant role in global warm

Boo Radley said:
OK, If I were one of the scientists, I would be one of the 97.1% who agree AGW is happening.

Please explain something to me...

How many classify at the 50%?

Explicit endorsements were divided into non-quantified (e.g., humans are contributing to global warming without quantifying the contribution) and quantified (e.g., humans are contributing more than 50% of global warming,

Where is that percentage? How many thought AGW was more than 50% of the warming?


Boo Radley said:
However, these types of articles are something you really should read:

Denialism: what is it and how should scientists respond?

(Snip)

The third characteristic is selectivity, drawing on isolated papers that challenge the dominant consensus or high lighting the flaws in the weakest papers among those that support it as a means of discrediting the entire field.

http://eurpub.oxfordjournals.org/content/19/1/2.full.pdf
Yes, this fits you guys perfectly. You warmers are the denialists.

Responding to denialism

Denialists are driven by a range of
motivations. For some it is greed, lured
by the corporate largesse of the oil
and tobacco industries. For others it is
ideology or faith, causing them to reject
anything incompatible with their fundamental
beliefs.
You guys continue to have faith in the sciences you fail to understand.


Finally there is eccentricity
and idiosyncrasy, sometimes
encouraged by the celebrity status conferred
on the maverick by the media.
Al Gore, for example...


Whatever the motivation, it is important
to recognize denialism when confronted
with it. The normal academic
response to an opposing argument is to
engage with it
, testing the strengths and
weaknesses of the differing views, in
the expectations that the truth will
emerge through a process of debate.
Interesting how debates from skeptics are refused by the alarmists.


However, this requires that both parties
obey certain ground rules, such as a
willingness to look at the evidence as
a whole, to reject deliberate distortions
and to accept principles of logic. A meaningful
discourse is impossible when
one party rejects these rules. Yet it
would be wrong to prevent the denialists
having a voice. Instead, we argue, it is
necessary to shift the debate from the
subject under consideration, instead
exposing to public scrutiny the tactics
they employ and identifying them
publicly for what they are. An understanding
of the five tactics listed
above provides a useful framework for
doing so.
 
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