Unemployment Rises to 7.9 Percent, Economy adds 157,000 Jobs

pinqy · Feb 6, 2013

Kg

Ontologuy said:
Meaningless obfuscation and subterfuge, as apparently usual for you. :roll:

You again go to lengths to pick on fine points that are simply not in debate question .. come to erroneous conclusions with them .. and then use those erroneous conclusions as a premise to your ultimate erroneous conclusion that the "January" BLS aren't mostly about December, when they obviously are, as your own hedging in explanation validates.

I haven't made any conclusion, I stated facts, which I note you have not shown wrong.

Truly, what is your issue with the reality that these reports are mostly for December, the second week in December thru the first week in January?!

because it's not true, no matter how many times you repeat it. Good God! I showed you multiple BLS sources that proved you wrong. The change is the difference between the 2nd week of December and the 2nd week of January as 2 static weeks. But please, quote and link to where on the BLS site your claim is supported.

The rest of your post is mostly simply repeating your insinuated opinion, simply because you don't like the truth of things as they are, especially about the fact that the number of discouraged workers is considerably greater than reported, as the BLS agent told me.

Give me a name, I'll call him myself. You are mistaken, though. I still don't get how you think your one interview, where you clearly misunderstood things such as who conducts the establishment survey, trumps my many weeks of training and discussions with many, many people at BLS

pinqy · Feb 6, 2013

ONE more time, it's simple: reference week. Someone could have worked all through December and the first week of January, but if he didn't' t work (fired or quit etc) during the January reference week (6-12) then he would have been classified as unemployed(assuming he looked for work). And if someone had been looking for work for years, but if he started a job January 6-12, he'd be Employed. I really Don't get what you don't understand about that.

Ontologuy · Feb 7, 2013

pinqy said:
Kg I haven't made any conclusion, I stated facts, which I note you have not shown wrong. because it's not true, no matter how many times you repeat it. Good God! I showed you multiple BLS sources that proved you wrong. The change is the difference between the 2nd week of December and the 2nd week of January as 2 static weeks. But please, quote and link to where on the BLS site your claim is supported. Give me a name, I'll call him myself. You are mistaken, though. I still don't get how you think your one interview, where you clearly misunderstood things such as who conducts the establishment survey, trumps my many weeks of training and discussions with many, many people at BLS. ONE more time, it's simple: reference week. Someone could have worked all through December and the first week of January, but if he didn't' t work (fired or quit etc) during the January reference week (6-12) then he would have been classified as unemployed(assuming he looked for work). And if someone had been looking for work for years, but if he started a job January 6-12, he'd be Employed. I really Don't get what you don't understand about that.

You are looking at the color yellow and calling it pink.

That is tantamount to what you are doing here .. and then you're asking me why I can't see that it's pink. :roll:

I cannot help you here.

You are either unable to see the facts as I clearly presented them ..

.. Or you are purposely misconstruing utilizing subterfuge and obfuscation to suit an ideological agenda.

pinqy · Feb 7, 2013

Ontologuy said:
You are looking at the color yellow and calling it pink.

Then explain, specifically, preferably with links and quotes. You keep saying I'm obfuscating, but you avoid specifics.

Try an actual argument and explanation instead of avoiding actually trying to support your claims and just accusing me of ... you know I'm not even sure of what...you avoid specifics.