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Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

next time think before typing...and next time try logic if your patting yourself proactively that you are attempting to make a point and using logic..which you are not..

My point is "fake outrage" being displayed by an obvious bigot ( not you)...

Except you have not managed to show that. Unbless you can show that those who find the alleged action inappropriate do in fact find Saudi Arabia's treatment of women acceptable, your point fails. I myself have spent far too much time in that part of the world and do not like how any of the countries there treat people.
 
It appears we now have another tier in the argument.

"Do you honestly believe darkies would be that dumb?"


can you please stop using such offensive terms?..."darkies"....enough!!!!...
 
You are going to great lengths to argue a point that is irrelevant to the charges in the OP. I find that interesting. Whether it is called temporary sterilization, birth control, or anything else does not change the nature of the allegation.

It's easier to blindly eny the allegations if one jumps through intellectual hoops to pretend that the allegations involve hyperbole.
 
Sure, there are MEtards that believe and propagate conspiracies about Israel. That's another thread.

Do you believe that the Israeli government is uniquely above reproach?

No, but I do think it's funny that you're saddened by people who didn't immediately accept this story as reported.
 
Except you have not managed to show that. Unbless you can show that those who find the alleged action inappropriate do in fact find Saudi Arabia's treatment of women acceptable, your point fails. I myself have spent far too much time in that part of the world and do not like how any of the countries there treat people.


Youre missing my point.. but at least we agree about the horrific treatment of women under Sharia...
 
I think it is extremely unlikely that there is a Hitler-like conspiracy

well, being nothing I outlined was "a hitler like conspiracy" I'll say "no ****"




I have a very good explanation for the data (gathered by merely 1 researcher from merely 30 people).

You're making a declaration dependent on ignorance, when you should be saying "I want more evidence", being that the evidence that is available doesn't seem to paint the best picture, though still inconclusive
 
It's easier to blindly eny the allegations if one jumps through intellectual hoops to pretend that the allegations involve hyperbole.

That makes no sense. Whether you call it temporary sterilization or birth control, the crux of the issue is that is was allegedly done without knowledge and consent, which the term used for the procedure is irrelevant to.
 
You're making a declaration dependent on ignorance, when you should be saying "I want more evidence", being that the evidence that is available doesn't seem to paint the best picture, though still inconclusive

What ignorance? I conduct gender sensitive sociological research interviews, in Africa, of various kinds. Given a basic knowledge of birth control and developing world women, the explanation for the data is obvious.

I've no doubt I'll be vindicated. Perhaps it will take a month or so.
 
Youre missing my point.. but at least we agree about the horrific treatment of women under Sharia...

I understood the point. It just failed logically.
 
You are making an irrelevant comparison. Thor did not say that it was more "sad", only that it was sad.

What exactly is the reaction in this thread that is "sad"?
 
can you please stop using such offensive terms?..."darkies"....enough!!!!...

What do you want me to call them? Israel didn't do this TO ANY OTHER GROUP OF ALIYAH CANDIDATES then the darkies. All whities were encouraged to breed without hesitation to bolster their numbers against the non Jews.
 
As I said before, citing people using the word incorrectly does not prove me wrong,. It only proves that you are also ignorant of what the word actually means. It's like the way you are ignorant of what the word dishonest means.

Ah, so the problem is that you are ...
No, I cited people using it Correctrly.
Namely Planned Parenthood and the Mayo Clinic.
Tucker's cited Only his always wrong source .. himself.


Last-word away but, as usual, you not only got your clock cleaned, but got caught Dishonestly short-quoting me in service of that, and now.... Lying/mischaracterizing my expert sources as using terms incorrectly. (!)
 
No, but I do think it's funny that you're saddened by people who didn't immediately accept this story as reported.

you know what I find sad? That you have nothing to add to this discussion but vague accusations of antisemitism, yet seem intent on contributing to it. Not to mention, he was "saddened" by the outright denial of even the possibility of such happening, when these same people would never feel the same (rightly) about any other government.

Seriously, grow the f*ck up
 
What ignorance? I conduct gender sensitive sociological research interviews, in Africa, of various kinds. Given a basic knowledge of birth control and developing world women, the explanation for the data is obvious.

I've no doubt I'll be vindicated. Perhaps it will take a month or so.

You're saying there isn';t much evidence so it must not be true. That's appealing to ignorance, regardless of your credentials
 
What exactly is the reaction in this thread that is "sad"?

To my mind? Several things are sad in this thread:

1) Those defending this in any way
2) Those who are trying to make the point that it is not sterilization as if that makes it better
3) Those who are assuming this is true
4) Those comparing to other countries as an excuse
5) The lack of spell checking in some posts


The sadest thing though is that this could very well be true. If it is, that is sadder than anything else by far.
 
You're saying there isn';t much evidence so it must not be true. That's appealing to ignorance, regardless of your credentials

I'm saying that there is a simple explanation for the data, especially given the n of 30 and a single interviewer. Occam's razor.
 
No, I cited people using it Correctrly.
Namely Planned Parenthood and the Mayo Clinic.
Tucker's cited Only his always wrong source .. himself.


Last-word away but, as usual, you not only got your clock cleaned, but got caught Dishonestly short-quoting me in service of that, and now.... Lying/mischaracterizing my expert sources as using terms incorrectly. (!)

Actually, you are claiming that those sources use it correctly. It boils down to whether some one accepts your claim based on your word.
 
I understood the point. It just failed logically.

No it didnt fail objectively... Youre a lib so everything is painted through lib subjectivity...sorry.

maybe it would make sense to you if Al Gore said it?
 
You are going to great lengths to argue a point that is irrelevant to the charges in the OP. I find that interesting. Whether it is called temporary sterilization, birth control, or anything else does not change the nature of the allegation.
I have already said that in either case it was wrong.
But the issue of terminology had arisen when Tucker tried to conflate them. (he's still trying, LOL)

Try and control your petty personal issues please. 'Third man in' and all that.
Thank you.
 
No it didnt fail objectively... Youre a lib so everything is painted through lib subjectivity...sorry.

maybe it would make sense to you if Al Gore said it?

Wrong again, and what does Al Gore have to do with this? Why do you keep bringing irrelevant things into it?
 
Actually, you are claiming that those sources use it correctly. It boils down to whether some one accepts your claim based on your word.

pretty basic knowledge he was using...Id accept that..
 
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