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The allegations have yet to warrant one.
And that's where you display your bias.
The allegations have yet to warrant one.
And that's where you display your bias.
No, I accept that the hundreds of pages and numerous discussions prior to this TV show, and the TV show itself, and the international attention and the overarching population considerations have sufficed to illustrate that there is nothing behind these allegations.
So by rejecting evidence which you have arbitrarily (and via logical fallacy) decided to reject, you have decided there is nothing behind the allegations?
I have not rejected any evidence. I've examined everything available, including pop dynamic considerations, and come to the conclusion that there is nothing significant or substantive behind the allegations of institutional sterilization.
And monkeys could fly out my butt. Perhaps we need a super-mega peer reviewed investigation into the possibility that monkeys do, in fact, fly out my butt. Before we, you know, abandon such foolishness. Just to be scientific.
I wasn't gonna read that. I think I've made my position crystal clear and I think it's reasonable. I done my due diligence. However, I notice that you mentioned my ass, so I'll read it later. Thanks, in advance.
I'll get to it. I'm just not quite up for the Great Wall of Tucker at the moment.
Or, perhaps some of us could learn the self-control necessary so as to avoid such intentionally provocative and pejoritive terms like "darkies".
:naughtyCertain contraceptives, like the one that was used, work by temporarily sterlizing the people who receive them. This is simply a matter of acknowledging what words mean.
And as Ben K. informed us in post #188
Go to the WHO, NHS or your own gov website for medical procedures and you'll clearly see that sterilization refers to irreversible procedures that renders one incapable of reproducing by conventional means. So no, Depo Provera injections do not equal sterilisation.
Stop wth the games.Quick question: Which source is a better source for the definitions of words, Dictionaries or websites?
Yes that seems to be the case, what?
If you are agreeing that it was hyperbole on your part, you are spot on.
As Israel is the one to give these folks a home in the first place, I seriously doubt there is anything nefarious going on.
Quite seriously as I am following this thread and this argument about "sterilization" I am struck at the abject stupidity of it. Good God of course you come to an internet debate forum like this to find someone like Tucker just repeating stupid ad infinitum. You heard it here first folks, where else but the internet? Women who use birth control are "sterilized"!:doh In fact the meaning of the word sterilization has been "sterilized" so as to conform to Tucker's boatload of a stupid argument. Over and over. Seriously, his argument is on the bleeding edge of stupid. I mean it literally takes stupid to new heights of, yip you guessed it, stupidity. Ah the internet.:roll:Stop wth the games.
Even the dictionary sources you used don't help you.
"See also", does not mean "the same as". And had you bothered to follow along to those "see also" terms, you would have seen them defined as contraceptive measures, not sterilizations.
Words have meaning.
And as pointed out, because their eggs can still be fertilized they can still produce children.
When they no longer can produce children they will be sterile.
So stop playing games.
Stick to the word contraceptive and you can't go wrong.
Quite seriously as I am following this thread and this argument about "sterilization" I am struck at the abject stupidity of it. Good God of course you come to an internet debate forum like this to find someone like Tucker just repeating stupid ad infinitum. You heard it here first folks, where else but the internet? Women who use birth control are "sterilized"!:doh In fact the meaning of the word sterilization has been "sterilized" so as to conform to Tucker's boatload of a stupid argument. Over and over. Seriously, his argument is on the bleeding edge of stupid. I mean it literally takes stupid to new heights of, yip you guessed it, stupidity. Ah the internet.:roll:
And had you bothered to follow along to those "see also" terms, you would have seen them defined as contraceptive measures, not sterilizations.
Quite seriously as I am following this thread and this argument about "sterilization" I am struck at the abject stupidity of it. Good God of course you come to an internet debate forum like this to find someone like Tucker just repeating stupid ad infinitum. You heard it here first folks, where else but the internet? Women who use birth control are "sterilized"!:doh In fact the meaning of the word sterilization has been "sterilized" so as to conform to Tucker's boatload of a stupid argument. Over and over. Seriously, his argument is on the bleeding edge of stupid. I mean it literally takes stupid to new heights of, yip you guessed it, stupidity. Ah the internet.:roll:
I suppose since you have demonstrated the astounding capacity to put the word stupid in bold (your mother must be so proud) you should be able to present something, oh, I don't know, not retarded that can disprove the dictionary definition of the word. I mean, the guy you have allied with has decided that tubal ligation isn't sterilization because... well... because... that was pretty much his astoundingly intelligent argument when you get right down to it. I'm sure you have something better, though. Like, perhaps, "because I said so", or "because it's like totally not what the dictionary says it is man because like, well, you're stupid".
Please, amaze us with your brilliance.
Just to get this straight.
Is it your position that women who take birth control pills are 'sterilizing' themselves?
This is damned wrong.
This appears to be the problem from Israel's POV.
If that's the case then they should have another look at the Law of Return, but the response is certainly not to sterilize women.
I agree with you statement, except the word "sterilize". There were not sterilized.
They are temporarily sterilizing themselves, yes. I do not place the negative connotation on the word that others want to.
Sterilization is intended to be permanent, birth control is not. Birth control, as in pills or condoms, is a temporary measure against pregnancy. There is no such thing as anyone temporarily sterilizing themselves because they would still not be sterile.
There is no negative or positive connotation on the word. You are just using it incorrectly. Ask anyone in the health profession and they will clarify it for you.