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Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

That's only part of combat. Sometimes the enemy comes to you. And yes, when the enemy is not an army, but the working next to you, you are on the frontline.

Sitting around and waiting for the enemy to come to you is a losing strategy.
 
I'm an artist, I know the shape of a woman and why they cannot keep up with a man. They have an hour glass shape, we have wide hips and our shoulders are broad... As an artist you learn the differences (not the junk) between a man and a woman.

I know this from my art - I have asked the question already.

The wide hips are a problem.. A good problem if you want to have children.

And yet, some can kick both our butts. That's a fact.
 
Sitting around and waiting for the enemy to come to you is a losing strategy.

No one is arguing differently. The fact remains, the battlefield is less defined and is where they are right now.
 
No one is arguing differently. The fact remains, the battlefield is less defined and is where they are right now.

The Battle on Roberts' Ridge didn't happen in the rear. The objective is to keep the enemy from threatening your lines of communications and the only way to do that is to take the offensive, seek out the enemy and destroy him in close quarter combat, by use of speed, terrain, tactics and firepower.
 
This all reminds me of GI Jane (the movie) It was politcal then, and is politcal now. There is no WAY in hell a general sends in women into direct line of fire if they can help it, and the first one that does, and has the result that is fairly predicatble will be relieved of command. All this, sure if they can handle the physicality of it, then let them nonesense is missing the obvious political chest puffing this all is. All this is is some powerful womens lobby group (over the years) not being able to see the forest through the trees. -Or-, if you like, as long as it ain't my daughter the message is more to further womens perceived lack of equality and is worth the sacrifice of a few daughters to get the recognition. Politicians, like elitests, have never in the history of mankind, ever had a problem letting someone else take it up the you know what, just so long as the bigger picture is realized, and or furthered.

This will all be great until females start coming home in body bags at the same rate men do, then see how long this little social experiment lasts!

Tim-

This needs to change! If women want to be taken seriously when the word equality comes out of their mouth, then they need to share the burden of defending it. Until then, I will not take any of them seriously. You don't get the frosting for free and then leave the men to fight over the bread. That is not equality, that is entitlement. Get these women on the front lines! Get them registered in the draft! I will respect them if they do these things and start taking an equal share of the responsibility!
 
The Battle on Roberts' Ridge didn't happen in the rear. The objective is to keep the enemy from threatening your lines of communications and the only way to do that is to take the offensive, seek out the enemy and destroy him in close quarter combat, by use of speed, terrain, tactics and firepower.

Not sure why you think this is an effective rebuttal on your part. It is not a question of whether you can find a battle that was four forward, but whether attacks also have in the rear. The point is e battlefield is not "out there," but everywhere.
 
Not sure why you think this is an effective rebuttal on your part. It is not a question of whether you can find a battle that was four forward, but whether attacks also have in the rear. The point is e battlefield is not "out there," but everywhere.
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You can't defeat the enemy in thr rear. Infantry doesn't operate in the rear and YES women serving in combat arms units IS THE POINT OF THE THREAD.
 
Not sure why you think this is an effective rebuttal on your part. It is not a question of whether you can find a battle that was four forward, but whether attacks also have in the rear. The point is e battlefield is not "out there," but everywhere.
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You can't defeat the enemy in thr rear. Infantry doesn't operate in the rear and YES women serving in combat arms units IS THE POINT OF THE THREAD.
 
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You can't defeat the enemy in thr rear. Infantry doesn't operate in the rear and YES women serving in combat arms units IS THE POINT OF THE THREAD.
Unless of course the enemy is in the rear. Do reread what I said.
 
If you disagree find the worst part of town you know and ask the police officer if he would prefer a male or female partner.

Bad analogy.....

A police officer's job is vastly different from an infantryman.

A police officer's job is more about knowing how to talk to people in order to get them to do what you want..... male criminals at times have been more compliant with females than with males because of this.

Its about "verbal judo" and "verbal judo" doesn't require physical strength stamina and agility to be successful at, it requires mental agility.
 
Unless of course the enemy is in the rear. Do reread what I said.

In which case it becomes the front and all support elements are redeployed to a more secure area.

Spin it how you want, but decisve combat operations don't take place in rearward areas.
 
In which case it becomes the front and all support elements are redeployed to a more secure area.

Spin it how you want, but decisve combat operations don't take place in rearward areas.

Only in traditional warfare. There is no front in what is going on today.
 
Only in traditional warfare. There is no front in what is going on today.
Yes there is. It's everywhere outside of the cushy super fobs where 95% of the military is placed. You're more likely to be hit by a car on one of those fobs than a bullet or mortar round, and there are US cities more dangerous than them.
 
Only in traditional warfare. There is no front in what is going on today.
Ik, which decisve battle took place in the rear during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Name one!
 
Yes there is. It's everywhere outside of the cushy super fobs where 95% of the military is placed. You're more likely to be hit by a car on one of those fobs than a bullet or mortar round, and there are US cities more dangerous than them.

Bet I can show those places have been hit from the inside when I get home? ;)
 
Ik, which decisve battle took place in the rear during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Name one!

I believe I linked earlier some discussion about that.
 
Bet I can show those places have been hit from the inside when I get home? ;)

Ok? So 1 in 10,000 soldiers died there. It doesn't prove ****. You're trying to compare it to infantry platoons who literally have 50+% casualties. Fact is, 95% of the military who deploy live on a super fob with pool halls and burger kings.
 
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