Dude, Puleeeessseee... yeah sure, one female to every 5000 men isn't exactly pulling equal duty sparky. Stop with the usual liberal, and typical exception to the rule argument. You look like a fool. Yes women have died from enemy gunfire by happenstance, NOT by design. If you want to delude yourself into some ridiculous comparison then by all means. I live in the real world sugar.
Tim-
Who said anything about equal duty?
In your world male soldiers are killed "by design"? What does that even mean?
Women have died while participating in active combat if that is what you are saying.
Oh Jesus YES! I spent 15 months carrying over a hundred god damn pounds on my back walking through the ****ing hindu kush. Afghanistan is NOT iraq. Most of the combat isn't in vehicles, it's humping and hating life.
But woman cant keep up - it's physically impossible. The simple fact they have wider hips will slow them down. Woman are not built for extreme physical activities. Of course they can do extreme physical activities but the male will always be faster and more durable.
That's a physical requirement. Not the all of the PT test.
I don't buy that either. It's rarely a sprint, and many women walk quite fast. me on the other hand, I'm slow by nature. Wide base don't ya know.
That's a physical requirement. Not the all of the PT test.
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Personally, I'm fine with this as long as they physical requirements are the same. If you can't lift enough or run long enough, you're putting other people in extra danger as well as yourself.
Dude, Puleeeessseee... yeah sure, one female to every 5000 men isn't exactly pulling equal duty sparky. Stop with the usual liberal, and typical exception to the rule argument. You look like a fool. Yes women have died from enemy gunfire by happenstance, NOT by design. If you want to delude yourself into some ridiculous comparison then by all means. I live in the real world sugar.
Tim-
The battlefield isn't structured that way though. Patrols are sent out for the express purpose of locating the enemy and engaging them. What do people think we do over there? Ride around and wait to be shot at? That's not the case at all. I think it was said best by General Barrow, 27th Commandant of the Marine Corps. "EXPOSURE to danger is not combat. Being shot at, even being killed, is not combat. Combat is finding . . . closing with . . . and killing or capturing the enemy."I think you're making a distinction without a meaning. We know they were and are not actively out running those types of missions. The argument is the battlefield is no longer structured that way. The old paradigm no longer holds meaning. And in this new paradigm women are in fact already on the front lines. They are correct.
For anyone who is confused or uninformed about the type of fighting that is happening in afghanistan, I would highly recommend the documentary 'Restrepo' to you. It follows one of the battalions from my brigade (the 173rd) during our 07-08 deployment.
It will become exceptionally obvious to those that claim that warfare is all fought with technology and from vehicles, that this simply isn't the case. For the most part it's humping through the mountains, and it's brutally overwhelming combat.
A great, great movie my brother. I have watched that movie at least 3 times, maybe 4. I was in awe of those guys sometimes. And that's saying a lot for a Marine to say he was in awe of a hooah lol.
I know bro. I was in the Sangin River Valley. Hate that place.I was a valley over from them, where it was luckily a smidge quieter. The Korengal is the worst place on the planet. It baffles me how little people actually know about America's longest war.
If you're slow then you will fail basic training. We're talking about standards here.
It's basic physics that woman are slower than men.
Why the hell do you think woman don't compete against men in sports? Hell my beer league hockey team could beat Team USA or Team Canada womans teams in a hockey game.
The notion we're even having a discussion that woman are as physically strong and fast as men is delusional...
Woman are better than men at some things and men are better than woman at some things - this just happens to be a case where men are superior... The notion woman are even close to men in physical strength, durability, stamina etc is downright ridiculous.
Now, If a woman can actually keep up with the guys - great - however I don't see that happening. If a woman can do that she would be better off competing in the Olympics than trying to prove herself in combat.
The PFT standards aren't going to be raised for female soldiers, so it's purdy much a dead issue. When troops hit the battlefield, it's too late to find out that a soldier can't handle the physical rigors of infantry life.
However, I can see it now, the standards for the Expert Infantry Test will be lowered, because women won't be able to meet the current standards.
The battlefield isn't structured that way though. Patrols are sent out for the express purpose of locating the enemy and engaging them. What do people think we do over there? Ride around and wait to be shot at? That's not the case at all. I think it was said best by General Barrow, 27th Commandant of the Marine Corps. "EXPOSURE to danger is not combat. Being shot at, even being killed, is not combat. Combat is finding . . . closing with . . . and killing or capturing the enemy."
So why should we allow women to serve when they can only execute part of the duties required for combat?That's only part of combat. Sometimes the enemy comes to you. And yes, when the enemy is not an army, but the working next to you, you are on the frontline.
So why should we allow women to serve when they can only execute part of the duties required for combat?
pardon the ignorance, but arent women already permitted to fight in combat? After all, my best friends daughter is a gunner and has been wounded.
Well, I didn't. The little thing with that female trooper in the laundry was dicey, but not being able to do the inverted crawl didn't get me kicked out.
The point was, that moving isn't that fast. My humor want really the point.
As for women in sports, many can kick my butt. Yours too I suspect.