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Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 150]

Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

yeah, those two gunsels could have had a fist fight, but because they had guns, they hurt others as well as themselves with their argument.

yeah they had them in violation of the law. go figure-a gun free zone is supposed to keep those who want to murder other people from having guns
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody


From that article:

....The Reason For The Shooting

An unidentified student who says she witnessed some of the shooting told CNN affiliate KHOU that an argument between two people preceded the gunfire.

One of the shooters, she said, told someone: “I don’t want to fight you; I’m not trying to go to jail.” She said the shooter “actually turned away from the situation” at first but eventually pulled a gun out of a backpack. She said she heard about nine shots.

“I think it was a bunch of crap that could’ve been resolved and never should have gone that far,” the witness said.....
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

From that article:

....The Reason For The Shooting

An unidentified student who says she witnessed some of the shooting told CNN affiliate KHOU that an argument between two people preceded the gunfire.

One of the shooters, she said, told someone: “I don’t want to fight you; I’m not trying to go to jail.” She said the shooter “actually turned away from the situation” at first but eventually pulled a gun out of a backpack. She said she heard about nine shots.

“I think it was a bunch of crap that could’ve been resolved and never should have gone that far,” the witness said.....

Also, from that article:

School spokesman Jed Young confirmed to CNN that three people, one suspected shooter and two seemingly unintended students caught in a “crossfire”, were wounded during the shooting.

Doubt the shooter shot himself.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

... or drug abuse, or prior violent crimes...

This post caused me to unlike your previous post. The one where you said "I think attempting to characterize this incident, or score political points of either sort with it, would be unwise at this time. We simply don't know what really happened yet. "

I dont "like" hypocrisy
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

according to 700 WLW at 6 PM or its sister station (550 KRC-cannot recall which one the wife had on in the car) it was a gun free zone

don't know where they got that but others are saying it

Gun-Free Zone: Shooting at Lone Star College in Houston

t is the policy of this [college] System to prohibit the carrying of firearms, knives, or clubs onto any of the System's facilities. The possession of firearms, illegal knives, and prohibited knives on System facilities including parking areas and publicly accessed facilities is a violation of criminal law and Board policies.

That's not a GFZ
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

That's not a GFZ

sorry, the sangha definitions-like the one that calls any gun sold without a federal background check unsafe-are rejected by those who know this subject
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

sorry, the sangha definitions-like the one that calls any gun sold without a federal background check unsafe-are rejected by those who know this subject

Actually, even gun nuts accept my definition of a GFZ
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

That's the definition of a gun free zone:

of course you are right. Sangha has been consistently wrong on every aspect of gun issues including his GFZ nonsense
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Actually, even gun nuts accept my definition of a GFZ

gun nuts being people who hate gun owners and post stuff designed to bait and annoy gun owners?
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Right, and a business policy of prohibiting guns does not make gun possession a crime

you don't read very well
The possession of firearms, illegal knives, and prohibited knives on System facilities including parking areas and publicly accessed facilities is a violation of criminal law and Board policies.
 
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of course you are right. Sangha has been consistently wrong on every aspect of gun issues including his GFZ nonsense

I'm right on this one, but I wouldnt assume that someone would understand that a "policy" of prohibiting guns does not make gun possession a crime just because they call themself a lawyer
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

I'm right on this one, but I wouldnt assume that someone would understand that a "policy" of prohibiting guns does not make gun possession a crime just because they call themself a lawyer

you just don't get it

this is from the school's policy

I will highlight it again

The possession of firearms, illegal knives, and prohibited knives on System facilities including parking areas and publicly accessed facilities is a violation of criminal law and Board policies.

what part of a VIOLATION OF CRIMINAL LAW are you unable to comprehend

you continue to lie no matter what the facts are

its more than a policy

ITS A VIOLATION OF CRIMINAL LAW
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

you don't read very well
The possession of firearms, illegal knives, and prohibited knives on System facilities including parking areas and publicly accessed facilities is a violation of criminal law and Board policies.

You don't read very thouroughly
A person shall not knowingly, intentionally or recklessly go onto the physical premises or passenger transportation vehicle of the System with a firearm or any prohibited weapon listed in Penal Code 46.05(a) unless pursuant to written regulation or law, or written authorization of the System.

According to TD, GFZ's are places where gun *are* allowed :lamo
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Right, and a business policy of prohibiting guns does not make gun possession a crime

No...making it a crime makes it a crime:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...person-interest-custody-2.html#post1061381384

it is the policy of this [college] System to prohibit the carrying of firearms, knives, or clubs onto any of the System's facilities. The possession of firearms, illegal knives, and prohibited knives on System facilities including parking areas and publicly accessed facilities is a violation of criminal law and Board policies.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody


Try again

A person shall not knowingly, intentionally or recklessly go onto the physical premises or passenger transportation vehicle of the System with a firearm or any prohibited weapon listed in Penal Code 46.05(a) unless pursuant to written regulation or law, or written authorization of the System.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Try again

uh that doesn't save your total failure.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

uh that doesn't save your total failure.

non-responsive response noted

Do you really believe that a place where guns are allowed is a GFZ?
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Try again

Do you know what that means?

(b) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsections (a)(1)-(4) that the actor possessed a firearm while in the actual discharge of his official duties as a member of the armed forces or national guard or a guard employed by a penal institution, or an officer of the court.

PENAL CODE  CHAPTER 46. WEAPONS

That portion of the policy refers to the above exceptions. It is a gun free zone, unless you are a LEO or authorized security guard. And here is the portion of the law that prohibits the carriage of the weapons at a school:

Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:
(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or
(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control.
(a-1) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun in a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control at any time in which:
(1) the handgun is in plain view; or
(2) the person is:
(A) engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic or boating;
(B) prohibited by law from possessing a firearm; or
(C) a member of a criminal street gang, as defined by Section 71.01.
(a-2) For purposes of this section, "premises" includes real property and a recreational vehicle that is being used as living quarters, regardless of whether that use is temporary or permanent. In this subsection, "recreational vehicle" means a motor vehicle primarily designed as temporary living quarters or a vehicle that contains temporary living quarters and is designed to be towed by a motor vehicle. The term includes a travel trailer, camping trailer, truck camper, motor home, and horse trailer with living quarters.
(a-3) For purposes of this section, "watercraft" means any boat, motorboat, vessel, or personal watercraft, other than a seaplane on water, used or capable of being used for transportation on water.
(b) Except as provided by Subsection (c), an offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
(c) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree if the offense is committed on any premises licensed or issued a permit by this state for the sale of alcoholic beverages.


Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):
(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution;
(2) on the premises of a polling place on the day of an election or while early voting is in progress;
(3) on the premises of any government court or offices utilized by the court, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the court;
(4) on the premises of a racetrack;
(5) in or into a secured area of an airport; or
(6) within 1,000 feet of premises the location of which is designated by the Texas Department of Criminal Justice as a place of execution under Article 43.19, Code of Criminal Procedure, on a day that a sentence of death is set to be imposed on the designated premises and the person received notice that:
(A) going within 1,000 feet of the premises with a weapon listed under this subsection was prohibited; or
(B) possessing a weapon listed under this subsection within 1,000 feet of the premises was prohibited.
(b) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsections (a)(1)-(4) that the actor possessed a firearm while in the actual discharge of his official duties as a member of the armed forces or national guard or a guard employed by a penal institution, or an officer of the court.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

according to 700 WLW at 6 PM or its sister station (550 KRC-cannot recall which one the wife had on in the car) it was a gun free zone

don't know where they got that but others are saying it

Gun-Free Zone: Shooting at Lone Star College in Houston

t is the policy of this [college] System to prohibit the carrying of firearms, knives, or clubs onto any of the System's facilities. The possession of firearms, illegal knives, and prohibited knives on System facilities including parking areas and publicly accessed facilities is a violation of criminal law and Board policies.

If it were not tragic this would be funny in a sardonic sort of way. two guys engage in a shoot out in a college building and you pronounce it a gun free zone as if ten more guns blazing away would have been better. Amazing!!!!! :doh:roll:
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Do you know what that means?



That portion of the policy refers to the above exceptions. It is a gun free zone, unless you are a LEO or authorized security guard. And here is the portion of the law that prohibits the carriage of the weapons at a school:

IOW, a GFZ is a place where people can carrry guns!! :doh
 
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If it were not tragic this would be funny in a sardonic sort of way. two guys engage in a shoot out in a college building and you pronounce it a gun free zone as if ten more guns blazing away would have been better. Amazing!!!!! :doh:roll:

I bet you claim Sandy Hook school was not a gun free zone because Lanza brought a rifle and two pistols to the school-shot his way into the place and then killed a bunch of unarmed adults and innocent children

we don't know the facts about the shooting-we do know that those who obey the law were unarmed
 
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