Redding California Tea Party right to bear arms Second Amendment Rally

RLF · Jan 20, 2013

Redding and Shasta County California Tea Party Patriots right to bear arms Second Amendment rally during an absolutely gorgeous afternoon. Over 200 people protest Obama's proposed gun restrictions during Gun Appreciation Day.

Muddy Creek · Jan 20, 2013

RLF said:
Redding and Shasta County California Tea Party Patriots right to bear arms Second Amendment rally during an absolutely gorgeous afternoon. Over 200 people protest Obama's proposed gun restrictions during Gun Appreciation Day.

Fighting for their right to stalk and kill. How pathetic.

notquiteright · Jan 20, 2013

I have attended 2nd Amendment rallies before, I firmly believe in the right to gather in support of that Right.

What bothers me about most is there never are many people under my age there and the one's who are look like bad extras at a Deliverance revival and poster boys for double bacon wrapped cheeseburgers... I attend a lot of comps- these guys are not there.

I read an online report of the rally. Those interviewed were ALL older than me, and spouting the same rather wild claims for our President and what the 2nd A is 'for'. It always sounds out in extreme right field.

Calling a 2nd A rally 'gun' appreciation day, having a few retirees spouting off about tyrants, barely getting 'over 200' to attend in a Northern California county of 177,233 would be an epic fail if it was 'Occupy Wall Street'.

We need to stop being so dumb about the debate. No more preaching to the choir, no more talk of tyrants and fighting gubmint. President Obama surrounded himself with children, can't we find some reasonably in shape under AARP age people to speak of hunting, marksmanship comps and home defense?

2nd A supporters seem hell bent on sounding rabid and always behind the curve.

j-mac · Jan 20, 2013

Yeah, you support the 2nd amendment, and the right to gather in support of that alright...Unless ofcourse, the bias media seeks out the most buffoonish examples of that they can find in order to paint the entire group with that broad brush, and discredit them. Classifying those who attend a 2nd amendment rally in the face of progressive, and possibly unconstitutional action by a sitting President as "...bad extras at a Deliverance revival and poster boys for double bacon wrapped cheeseburgers..." is what any rational person could only read as inflammatory, and pejorative that tips your personal hand in what you really believe. It is a truly sad display, and your not new, and well worn slurs against those of us who believe in the constitution of this country, or that our rights are granted by our creator, and not by the current tin horn dictator wanna be, are only emblematic or what Stalin referred to as "useful idiots"....

notquiteright · Jan 20, 2013

j-mac said:
Yeah, you support the 2nd amendment, and the right to gather in support of that alright...Unless ofcourse, the bias media seeks out the most buffoonish examples of that they can find in order to paint the entire group with that broad brush, and discredit them. Classifying those who attend a 2nd amendment rally in the face of progressive, and possibly unconstitutional action by a sitting President as "...bad extras at a Deliverance revival and poster boys for double bacon wrapped cheeseburgers..." is what any rational person could only read as inflammatory, and pejorative that tips your personal hand in what you really believe. It is a truly sad display, and your not new, and well worn slurs against those of us who believe in the constitution of this country, or that our rights are granted by our creator, and not by the current tin horn dictator wanna be, are only emblematic or what Stalin referred to as "useful idiots"....

More playing the victim card? That just never gets old for you does it?

It is the bias media and my very honest appraisal of those who attended the rally with me, but look at the video of the Redding rally, not exactly an ad for Weight Watchers is it? Not exactly a diverse group is it? Their quotes are not 'gun' appreciation but Gubmint fear, perhaps that should have been the theme, We Fear the Gubmint Day...

Now you seem hung up on the word Progressive as if it is UnConstitutional. it of course isn't. You can only say POSSIBLY about the actions of the President, again weak tea at best.

No I didn't 'tip my hand'... I said it loud and proud... angry, fat, old white dudes decrying tyrants at an epic fail rally- no excuse not to have thousands, great weather, very 'gun' friendly part of cali, (I know I was in Roseville quite a bit, knew many shooters, loved the Sacramento range and deer hunting season was odd, very warm, but very well attended) 200 out of a county of 177,233...

Please, My point (which yet again you dodge), is WE need to stop the tyrant crap, stop the camouflage crap, the 'don't Tread on Me' crap. recruiting more than old fellas to attend, more wives and female shooters- I saw plenty at the Sac range. Time to step up OUR game or the issue will be lost.

No hidden agenda, I put it right out there....

Blue_State · Jan 20, 2013

RLF said:
Redding and Shasta County California Tea Party Patriots right to bear arms Second Amendment rally during an absolutely gorgeous afternoon. Over 200 people protest Obama's proposed gun restrictions during Gun Appreciation Day.

Those people all looked out of control. I saw crazy eyes everywhere.

tererun · Jan 20, 2013

200 people? OMFG that is fail. The paintball field I used to work at got over 200 people per day on the weekends. I have seen the smallest of anime cons in the middle of nowhere pull off more than 200 people with no real guests outside of people with crappy internet blogs. My god ensign ro and some klingon extra from star trek 5 could pull in more than 1000 people to a star trek convention. 200 people in a walmart for a day is death to their store. How did they know there was a rally there at all? Most parjks i know have 200 people in them daily. My friggen high school had 200+ people in my graduating class, and we were considered the small high school of the area. Most movie theaters have more than 200 seats. we kill more than 200 people a day with drone attacks.

Just to put that pathetic number in perspective. That wasn't a rally, that was a sign that the tea party terrorists have lost. Seriously, was that a protest or a ****ty day at a local carnival after a rainstorm? If that is all the people you can draw you could be overrun by an oprah audience. You guys are going to have to do better than that because you just showed you don't have the numbers for a vote, or even to hold a revolt.

Kal'Stang · Jan 20, 2013

notquiteright said:
I have attended 2nd Amendment rallies before, I firmly believe in the right to gather in support of that Right.

What bothers me about most is there never are many people under my age there and the one's who are look like bad extras at a Deliverance revival and poster boys for double bacon wrapped cheeseburgers... I attend a lot of comps- these guys are not there.

I read an online report of the rally. Those interviewed were ALL older than me, and spouting the same rather wild claims for our President and what the 2nd A is 'for'. It always sounds out in extreme right field.

Calling a 2nd A rally 'gun' appreciation day, having a few retirees spouting off about tyrants, barely getting 'over 200' to attend in a Northern California county of 177,233 would be an epic fail if it was 'Occupy Wall Street'.

We need to stop being so dumb about the debate. No more preaching to the choir, no more talk of tyrants and fighting gubmint. President Obama surrounded himself with children, can't we find some reasonably in shape under AARP age people to speak of hunting, marksmanship comps and home defense?

2nd A supporters seem hell bent on sounding rabid and always behind the curve.

So you're younger than 10 years old? Cause I saw some 10 yr olds in that rally there....

notquiteright · Jan 20, 2013

Kal'Stang said:
So you're younger than 10 years old? Cause I saw some 10 yr olds in that rally there....

I didn't see any in the video, perhaps a few were....so Mr. Nit R. Picker, would you settle for the average 'appreciator' old enough to vote is old enough for AARP membership? :2wave:

Kal'Stang · Jan 20, 2013

notquiteright said:
I didn't see any in the video, perhaps a few were

They were standing towards the corner.

notquiteright said:
....so Mr. Nit R. Picker, would you settle for the average 'appreciator' old enough to vote is old enough for AARP membership? :2wave:

Not sure what you're saying here.

notquiteright · Jan 20, 2013

Kal'Stang said:
They were standing towards the corner.

Not sure what you're saying here.

Were the children there to appreciate or curious if the Retirement Home had closed?

The stalwart 'appreciators' (those who attended the 'gun' appreciation day are appreciators and not protesters though their words were sure sounded like a protest not appreciation) are on average over 50 and thus eligible for AARP membership. Old enough to vote is to set the parameters on those who are old enough to vote in an election/referendum on the subject at hand.

But you seem to be quite savvy on the crowd makeup... what would you say is the age break down? how many under 12, between 12 and 18? 18 and 21? 21 and 30? 30 and 50? over 50?

Kal'Stang · Jan 20, 2013

notquiteright said:
Were the children there to appreciate or curious if the Retirement Home had closed?

They were holding signs.

notquiteright said:
The stalwart 'appreciators' (those who attended the 'gun' appreciation day are appreciators and not protesters though their words were sure sounded like a protest not appreciation) are on average over 50 and thus eligible for AARP membership. Old enough to vote is to set the parameters on those who are old enough to vote in an election/referendum on the subject at hand.

Depends on your pov. Standing up for gun rights is a damn good way to show appreciation on gun appreciation day.

And really, you should drop the AARP mantra. Who cares how old they are? I responded to your post because you said that you always see these rally's and no one is ever younger than you in them.

notquiteright said:
But you seem to be quite savvy on the crowd makeup... what would you say is the age break down? how many under 12, between 12 and 18? 18 and 21? 21 and 30? 30 and 50? over 50?

Beats me, I watched the video before I even saw your post so I wasn't exactly paying that close attention to all the different people. If it concerns you that much then perhaps you should watch the video again. I just happened to remember the kids is all.

j-mac · Jan 20, 2013

What's all this age crap? Is there some age in America where you give up your rights?

tererun · Jan 20, 2013

Kal'Stang said:
They were holding signs.

Are you telling us that after the crapload of bitching because Obama brought kids who had wrote him letters about making them safer when he signed his EOs the tea party terrorists forced their children to go to a gun rally and hold signs? That would mean the protestors used their children who cannot make decisions on their own to shamelessly support their parents cause by threat of their parents. It also means that out of the crappy turnout the numbers were boosted by people forced to be there sort of like Mittens liked to do.

At least the kids Obama used were voluntarily there and agreed with the letters they actually wrote and not5 forced to go to some geezer rally on their long weekend by their crazy parents.

Kal'Stang said:
Depends on your pov. Standing up for gun rights is a damn good way to show appreciation on gun appreciation day.

being forced by your parents to go to a rally on your day off is not what i would call appreciation for guns. probably appreciation of not having to be locked in a closet to live off rat droppings wit6h your parents holding a shotgun and guarding you to make sure you don't escape on them.

Kal'Stang said:
And really, you should drop the AARP mantra. Who cares how old they are? I responded to your post because you said that you always see these rally's and no one is ever younger than you in them.

Yeah really, do you think the AARP wants to be associated with such abusive and manipulative geezers?

tererun · Jan 20, 2013

j-mac said:
What's all this age crap? Is there some age in America where you give up your rights?

i think it would be that age where the insurance company decides you are too costly to fix so they deny all your claims. Or maybe it is that age where you are only worth a vote to republicans, and keeping you alive is too expensive despite the fact you pretty much built this country and paid into social security all your life and now want to use those benefits which the reps want to use to pay for more male interns to screw in the bathroom. Why don't you tell us what age the elderly become pointless considering republicans love tossing grandma into the gutter.

notquiteright · Jan 20, 2013

Kal'Stang said:
They were holding signs.

Depends on your pov. Standing up for gun rights is a damn good way to show appreciation on gun appreciation day.

And really, you should drop the AARP mantra. Who cares how old they are? I responded to your post because you said that you always see these rally's and no one is ever younger than you in them.

Beats me, I watched the video before I even saw your post so I wasn't exactly paying that close attention to all the different people. If it concerns you that much then perhaps you should watch the video again. I just happened to remember the kids is all.

So basically you just responded to nit nick??? GOOOOTCHA! :2wave:

Standing up for 'gun' rights or pushing the much broader Tea Party agenda with it's same ol tired 'tyrant' crap?

notquiteright · Jan 20, 2013

j-mac said:
What's all this age crap? Is there some age in America where you give up your rights?

The age crap shows the vast majority of these few 'appreciators' are angry old men, not mainstream firearm owner/users like I met when I routinely shot the Sac range.

This was a tiny niche group out of a possible 177,233 citizens of Redding county.

you continue to beat your dead horse... I NEVER said a damn thing about anyone giving up rights, why you insist on turning any thread I post in to that old saw is more telling or your bias than anything about the subject at hand.

What I said was it would be nice if the Tea Party in it's attempt to coop the current firearms debate could present a more mainstream cross section and concentrate on the issue at hand, leaving the tyranny crap for some other time. We need 'gun' owners who don't sound like the old folks home militia.

TheNextEra · Jan 20, 2013

Muddy Creek said:
Fighting for their right to stalk and kill. How pathetic.

This statement is beyond ridiculous. Do you really think a gunman that is hell bent on killing people is going to say to himself "Gee, I better not load my gun up with anything more than 7 bullets because that would be illegal"?

These new laws will NOT prevent more shootings and only punishes LAW ABIDING citizens because the criminals don't care about these new laws.

j-mac · Jan 20, 2013

tererun said:
i think it would be that age where the insurance company decides you are too costly to fix so they deny all your claims. Or maybe it is that age where you are only worth a vote to republicans, and keeping you alive is too expensive despite the fact you pretty much built this country and paid into social security all your life and now want to use those benefits which the reps want to use to pay for more male interns to screw in the bathroom. Why don't you tell us what age the elderly become pointless considering republicans love tossing grandma into the gutter.

Hey, try reading for comprehension please....It isn't the conservatives on this board mocking the protesters for their age, weight, or anything else, that is coming from you dear.

BMCM · Jan 20, 2013

What I find funny is all the people that scream and protest so much about Obama and gun laws. A president can not make laws only Congress can make laws. It's Congress that you should be concerned about. They're the ones that spend the money and make laws. But the Dems are off having a party and the Reps are on a winter retreat trying to figure out how they can win more elections. Neither side are concerned about the country's problems.

j-mac · Jan 20, 2013

notquiteright said:
The age crap shows the vast majority of these few 'appreciators' are angry old men, not mainstream firearm owner/users like I met when I routinely shot the Sac range.

This was a tiny niche group out of a possible 177,233 citizens of Redding county.

you continue to beat your dead horse... I NEVER said a damn thing about anyone giving up rights, why you insist on turning any thread I post in to that old saw is more telling or your bias than anything about the subject at hand.

What I said was it would be nice if the Tea Party in it's attempt to coop the current firearms debate could present a more mainstream cross section and concentrate on the issue at hand, leaving the tyranny crap for some other time. We need 'gun' owners who don't sound like the old folks home militia.

And I asked if you think that there is a certain age where you think as an American, we should lose our rights? You clearly have something against older Americans....Look, not saying that this is the reason, but maybe, just maybe the younger supporters of gun rights were not at the rally because they had to work, ever think of that one?

Your attempt to minimize those Americans that believe that gun rights are worth speaking out about, or joining an organization like the NRA is despicable, and not supported by the facts.

"A day before President Barack Obama is scheduled to release Vice President Joe Biden's recommendations to curb gun violence in the United States, the National Rifle Association told U.S. News and World Report that they have seen membership grow by 250,000 in the month since the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut."

NRA: Membership Has Grown by 250,000 in One Month - US News and World Report

sangha · Jan 20, 2013

j-mac said:
And I asked if you think that there is a certain age where you think as an American, we should lose our rights? You clearly have something against older Americans....Look, not saying that this is the reason, but maybe, just maybe the younger supporters of gun rights were not at the rally because they had to work, ever think of that one?

Your attempt to minimize those Americans that believe that gun rights are worth speaking out about, or joining an organization like the NRA is despicable, and not supported by the facts.

"A day before President Barack Obama is scheduled to release Vice President Joe Biden's recommendations to curb gun violence in the United States, the National Rifle Association told U.S. News and World Report that they have seen membership grow by 250,000 in the month since the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut."

NRA: Membership Has Grown by 250,000 in One Month - US News and World Report

because they offered a 70% discount on membership dues :lamo

JackFrost · Jan 20, 2013

j-mac said:
What's all this age crap? Is there some age in America where you give up your rights?

Liberals pay more attention to kids when discussing political matters (see Obama surrounded by kids announcing new gun laws).

Liberals/Progressives pay less attention to old folk when discussing political matters (See notquiteright's response on page 1).

It is all backwards.

notquiteright · Jan 20, 2013

j-mac said:
And I asked if you think that there is a certain age where you think as an American, we should lose our rights? You clearly have something against older Americans....Look, not saying that this is the reason, but maybe, just maybe the younger supporters of gun rights were not at the rally because they had to work, ever think of that one?

Your attempt to minimize those Americans that believe that gun rights are worth speaking out about, or joining an organization like the NRA is despicable, and not supported by the facts.

"A day before President Barack Obama is scheduled to release Vice President Joe Biden's recommendations to curb gun violence in the United States, the National Rifle Association told U.S. News and World Report that they have seen membership grow by 250,000 in the month since the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut."

NRA: Membership Has Grown by 250,000 in One Month - US News and World Report

You constantly rant the same BS over and over again, no matter the topic, no matter the point under discussion.

I NEVER said at a certain age a citizen should lose their rights, so thats more muddy water. I have NOTHING against older Americans, I R one. Just point out the Tea Party epic fail 'rally' looked more like the line for the Early Bird Special at Denny's than mainstream America, and sounded like a bunch of angry old white dudes. Did mention when i attend a 2nd A rally-never attended a 'gun' appreciation day because that sounds stupid- there is always a strong scruffy dudes in cammy contingent.

'Maybe the under 50 crowd had to work???' REALLY??? Another epic fail of a dodge. You trying to say out of a city of 89,861 people, in a county of 177,233 only 200 'appreciators' could get off work...on a weekend?????

I have told you several times now I am a member of the NRA, you don't seem to allow facts into your world view.

So once again, the radical ranters on the extreme right need to get new horses to beat, the ones like can't get off work, giving up rights, hidden agendas, there was at least two kids at the rally, and other crap is worn out....

eace

Kal'Stang · Jan 20, 2013

notquiteright said:
So basically you just responded to nit nick??? GOOOOTCHA! :2wave:

:shrug: I was bored. :shrug: