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Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

Well I have my AR-15 among other toys....

Come get it...

Funny how you paint gun owners as lunatics, yet you actually believe it's a good idea to come and take their guns. One would think that would be about as insane as taking Rain Man's baseball cards.

Whos on first?

You must have been listening to the lunatic fringe of gun owners. No one is coming to take your guns. Pre-existing ownership is grandfathered in the proposed legislation.
 
Well I have my AR-15 among other toys....

Come get it...

Funny how you paint gun owners as lunatics, yet you actually believe it's a good idea to come and take their guns. One would think that would be about as insane as taking Rain Man's baseball cards.

Whos on first?

The US has the largest prison system in the world. Guns that are legislated as illegal will be turned in by their owners, if that's what the law requires. When those who don't comply are discovered, they will be jailed.
 
The US has the largest prison system in the world. Guns that are legislated as illegal will be turned in by their owners, if that's what the law requires. When those who don't comply are discovered, they will be jailed.

Good luck with that.

Are you delusional?

You aren't familiar with Waco or Ruby Ridge are you?

Yeah that has been tried before and failed.

Besides, I highly doubt cops or any authority will attempt to take guns away for the simple fact they believe in the Second Amendment - not your totalitarian loony ideas.

Good luck, because the first residence you try it on will be another Ruby Ridge and a start of a civil war.

Remember dummy, you don't have the guns and your idiot government (even if they have the balls to attempt it) would stand down once they see 1,000 people walking up a road dressed in guns and ammo ready to take care of business.
 
Good luck with that.

Are you delusional?

You aren't familiar with Waco or Ruby Ridge are you?

I'm familiar with. I know they lost


Yeah that has been tried before and failed.

Besides, I highly doubt cops or any authority will attempt to take guns away for the simple fact they believe in the Second Amendment - not your totalitarian loony ideas.

Good luck, because the first residence you try it on will be another Ruby Ridge and a start of a civil war.

Remember dummy, you don't have the guns and your idiot government (even if they have the balls to attempt it) would stand down once they see 1,000 people walking up a road dressed in guns and ammo ready to take care of business.

Again, there will be no need for confiscation. The rantings of the Delicate Flowers over the Faux Penii are just for show. They will comply with the law, or be jailed.
 
You must have been listening to the lunatic fringe of gun owners. No one is coming to take your guns. Pre-existing ownership is grandfathered in the proposed legislation.

Yeah yeah, no one is coming for our guns despite the laws that have a good chance of passing which in fact do so. Heck the post right after you supports such tripe:

The US has the largest prison system in the world. Guns that are legislated as illegal will be turned in by their owners, if that's what the law requires. When those who don't comply are discovered, they will be jailed.

So spare me your lies about no one is coming for your guns because confiscations are on the table, and may very well become law in New York for example.

I'm familiar with. I know they lost

Again, there will be no need for confiscation. The rantings of the Delicate Flowers over the Faux Penii are just for show. They will comply with the law, or be jailed.

Oh, so we need not worry about them coming for our guns because they'll come for us? How very reassuring... :roll:
 
Yeah yeah, no one is coming for our guns despite the laws that have a good chance of passing which in fact do so. Heck the post right after you supports such tripe:



So spare me your lies about no one is coming for your guns because confiscations are on the table, and may very well become law in New York for example.



Oh, so we need not worry about them coming for our guns because they'll come for us? How very reassuring... :roll:

There are no gun confiscation laws on the table. That is a delusion held by the weak kneed
 
Yeah yeah, no one is coming for our guns despite the laws that have a good chance of passing which in fact do so. Heck the post right after you supports such tripe:

I call BS! Post the federal legislation proposed that does not grandfather guns that you already own!
 
I'm familiar with. I know they lost




Again, there will be no need for confiscation. The rantings of the Delicate Flowers over the Faux Penii are just for show. They will comply with the law, or be jailed.

Your coward government murdered a mans wife and son and friend...

The rage people of my ilk feel about that is - no words can describe it. Try it again and it will be insane.

You bastards claim gays have the right to life and liberty? really? what about Randy Weavers family? oh yeah that is impossible because the FBI killed his son who was only 13 and his wife over a shotgun.

Try it again and it would cause a civil war.
 
Your coward government murdered a mans wife and son and friend...

The rage people of my ilk feel about that is - no words can describe it. Try it again and it will be insane.

You bastards claim gays have the right to life and liberty? really? what about Randy Weavers family? oh yeah that is impossible because the FBI killed his son who was only 13 and his wife over a shotgun.

Try it again and it would cause a civil war.

Another angry rant

Way to prove that I was wrong when I said that angry rants are the only thing the right will do
 
Another angry rant

Way to prove that I was wrong when I said that angry rants are the only thing the right will do

Can you type a paragraph?

No rant, just angry that our government executed a child and a pregnant mother over a shotgun. This while you hypocritical progressives sit there and pretend like you care about the world and cry when an actual terrorist is slain.

I think you're garbage and your life is useless.
 
I asked you a question.

My scenario is not at all out of the realm of possibilities considering progressives want to ban guns entirely, and considering the fact Chicago has pretty much told the SCOTUS to **** off when it comes to their gun ban.

The notion my question and concerns are "fear-mongering" is downright ridiculous and nothing more than a deflection of an honest and rational question.

Now answer the question or shut up.
If Chicago banned guns, and assuming no one challenged that law (a HUGE assumption), then I'd either move or follow the law. I guess IL doesn't have the same state laws we do? KC or St Louis couldn't do that. State law takes precedence here.

But, again, I find it highly unlikely to happen.
 
Yep, every American with a firearm knows how to handle it when standing in a crowd



and those three weren't the only ones to enjoy their day at a gun show

Ain't the gun's fault. It's human stupidity
 
Coast to coast over the last...10 years or so...and Ive never seen such a thing. Ever.

MOST gun show vendors run alarm sensors that have to be deactivated when a firearm is removed but that is for anti-theft protection. But chamber blocks? Never seen them.

You don't go to the range much then I take it?
 
Many see it but simply choose to see more personal advantage than personal harm. They assure themselves that gov't power will ever more belong to those "good folks" like them, not that the "bad guys" will ever get elected to turn that gov't power against them. Who in Germany would ever have believed that nut, like Hitler, could ever come to power?

When the wefare state goes broke, note that I said WHEN not IF, we will see if the gov't supported sheeple will remain calm and starve quietly or must then be "controlled" by those that seek to keep what they are so sure that they now own. The liberals know that the more gov't dependent folks that there are, the more they can ask of you in taxation to keep them calm, fed, comfortable and controlled. The less guns/personal defense force that you have, then the more dependent upon that gov't that you will become, for your very life.
Considering the government is mostly run off corporate money and popular opinion I find your rant very funny. Politicians have no personal interest in controlling anything except the next election as much as possible. If popular opinion wanted everyone carrying guns and a tank in every driveway - and the Megacorps had no big objections - then that's the way things would be. If Megacorps wanted the same and there wasn't a popular rejection of it, the same would also be true.

And don't bother telling me about the 2nd, I understand the discussion, I'm just telling it like I see it - not the way I'd like to see it.
 
Considering the government is mostly run off corporate money and popular opinion I find your rant very funny. Politicians have no personal interest in controlling anything except the next election as much as possible. If popular opinion wanted everyone carrying guns and a tank in every driveway - and the Megacorps had no big objections - then that's the way things would be. If Megacorps wanted the same and there wasn't a popular rejection of it, the same would also be true.

And don't bother telling me about the 2nd, I understand the discussion, I'm just telling it like I see it - not the way I'd like to see it.

Corporations don't control anything - politicians do.

Competition forbids corporations from controlling anything.

Find me a monopoly and maybe we can have a discussion, until then it's all conspiracy (which I dabble in and agree with some of them).
 
You don't go to the range much then I take it?
All the time...was there last weekend, the weekend before, and the weekend directly following Christmas. Never used one, never seen one employed at a range, never seen one at a gun show, and Ive never seen one on a weapon at a gun store. OCCASIONALLY some will have on zip ties (though again...NEVER at a range).
 
Corporations don't control anything - politicians do.

Competition forbids corporations from controlling anything.

Find me a monopoly and maybe we can have a discussion, until then it's all conspiracy (which I dabble in and agree with some of them).
You act like competition means businesses are always at odds with one another. That couldn't be father from the truth. Businesses need each other and often form loose coalitions to get things done. The only thing that stops business from taking over is that what's good for one sector is often not good for another sector. I've always said it and I'll continue to say it: A man with a million dollars to spend is more dangerous than a man with a machine gun. Why do you think I object to all gun control?
 
If Chicago banned guns, and assuming no one challenged that law (a HUGE assumption), then I'd either move or follow the law. I guess IL doesn't have the same state laws we do? KC or St Louis couldn't do that. State law takes precedence here.

But, again, I find it highly unlikely to happen.

Yes everyone (at least every republican in the state) challenged that law, not only was it challenged but Chicago told the SCOTUS to piss off after they ruled their ban was unconstitutional.

It's been years now and not one single democrat has called bull****, yet if some fool like Obama issues and executive order and I don't handover my guns you will cry like babies.
 
You act like competition means businesses are always at odds with one another. That couldn't be father from the truth. Businesses need each other and often form loose coalitions to get things done. The only thing that stops business from taking over is that what's good for one sector is often not good for another sector. I've always said it and I'll continue to say it: A man with a million dollars to spend is more dangerous than a man with a machine gun. Why do you think I object to all gun control?

You don't know a goddamn thing about economics.

Don't pretend like you know something you don't know - I'm more than happy to destroy you on this issue. My treat!

So where you want to begin?

Theory of capitalism? Marx? Keynesian, micro, macro, socialism??

What is your ideal economic philosophy?

You're wrong off the bat but I'll take a shot.
 
Yes everyone (at least every republican in the state) challenged that law, not only was it challenged but Chicago told the SCOTUS to piss off after they ruled their ban was unconstitutional.

It's been years now and not one single democrat has called bull****, yet if some fool like Obama issues and executive order and I don't handover my guns you will cry like babies.
"You" "will cry like babies"? To which "you" are you referring cause it sure as hell isn't me. I don't believe in any gun laws at all, let alone confiscation of existing guns from lawful owners.
 
You act like competition means businesses are always at odds with one another. That couldn't be father from the truth. Businesses need each other and often form loose coalitions to get things done. The only thing that stops business from taking over is that what's good for one sector is often not good for another sector. I've always said it and I'll continue to say it: A man with a million dollars to spend is more dangerous than a man with a machine gun. Why do you think I object to all gun control?

Oh yeah, my mother is a CFO of a business which produces products you consume everyday so I have had more business training than you.

I understand the ins and outs and the accounting structure. I can tell you right now you don't know a damn thing about economy or business. So go grab that tissue that my mom is the CFO of and blow your nose, better yet put it in a sandwich bag that my mother is the CFO, then rinse your mirror with that Windex..

I was trained pretty well.
 
You don't know a goddamn thing about economics.

Don't pretend like you know something you don't know - I'm more than happy to destroy you on this issue. My treat!

So where you want to begin?

Theory of capitalism? Marx? Keynesian, micro, macro, socialism??

What is your ideal economic philosophy?

You're wrong off the bat but I'll take a shot.
Let's take a look at the last major PAC disaster in DC - SOPA. Tell me a bunch of entertainment companies - all in "competition" - didn't band together to make that happen. Of course, the Internet industry that would be injured by SOPA, vehemently opposed it and banded together to shoot it down. Not one but TWO groups of "competitors" that banded together to influence DC politicians. That's just the most recent example. There are many, many other examples where competitors in an industry that are "in competition" band together to support or oppose laws. Why do they do this? Because, generally speaking, laws that are good/bad for one company in the same industry are good/bad for the others as well.
 
"You" "will cry like babies"? To which "you" are you referring cause it sure as hell isn't me. I don't believe in any gun laws at all, let alone confiscation of existing guns from lawful owners.

If you don't believe in gun laws then why the hell are you attempting to give me the business?
 
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