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Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

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Yep, every American with a firearm knows how to handle it when standing in a crowd

Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

Raleigh, N.C. — Officials said the Dixie Gun and Knife Show will continue Sunday without private gun sales after three people, including a retired sheriff's deputy, were injured Saturday when a gun brought in by a patron who planned to sell it accidentally discharged.

A man identified as Gary Lynn Wilson, 36, of Wilmington, brought the 12-gauge shotgun to the show at the North Carolina State Fairgrounds and was attempting to remove it from its case when the weapon went off shortly after 1 p.m., police said.

and those three weren't the only ones to enjoy their day at a gun show
Accidental shootings were reported at two other gun shows Saturday in Indiana and Ohio.

In Indianapolis, police said a 54-year-old man was injured when he accidentally shot himself while leaving a gun show. And in Ohio, a gun dealer in Medina was checking out a semi-automatic handgun he had bought when he accidentally pulled the trigger, injuring his friend, police said. The gun's magazine had been removed from the firearm, but one round remained in the chamber, police said.
 
Definitely time for gun safety classes. Just by watching TV you out to be able to figure out the loaded / unloaded / look before you leap truism.
 
Holy Crap.

are you aware of the fact that anti gun fanatics have been arrested covertly loading displayed guns at shows to create accidents?l
 
are you aware of the fact that anti gun fanatics have been arrested covertly loading displayed guns at shows to create accidents?l


Haven't heard about that. Mightly low-down thing to do.... all guns at shows are supposed to be unloaded...
 
are you aware of the fact that anti gun fanatics have been arrested covertly loading displayed guns at shows to create accidents?l

That would suck. I'd like to read about that, do you have a link to some of those stories?
 
That would suck. I'd like to read about that, do you have a link to some of those stories?

security guard at a dayton show told me that they busted a guy for doing that. They have all sorts of cameras set up at those shows-mainly to prevent theft. when I questioned him he noted it has been reported before. I will try to find more next time I see him
 
Haven't heard about that. Mightly low-down thing to do.... all guns at shows are supposed to be unloaded...

the ones I go to they are pretty thorough checking bags and all weapons-can someone smuggle in a loaded weapon-yes. can someone buy a box of ammo or bring one in and covertly load a displayed gun-yes

another show they rope every gun coming in-you know put a piece of rope through the muzzle and out the action
 
I think there is more than meets the eye here. I have never heard of accidental shootings at gun shows. Now there are three in one day. Don't most shows prohibit bringing in loaded guns? It could just be my area, but if not, these people were also going against the rules and possibly state law.

I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but three in one day is not a coincidence.
 
Morons exist in vast numbers in a country of more than 300 million, that is not news at all. Where vast numbers of morons and guns mix bad things are bound to happen. This could easily be said for car "accidents" that are caused by morons as well. When handling a gun, any gun, one must assume that it is loaded until positively, and personally, assuring otherwise, especially those available to, or known to, have been handled by others.
 
security guard at a dayton show told me that they busted a guy for doing that. They have all sorts of cameras set up at those shows-mainly to prevent theft. when I questioned him he noted it has been reported before. I will try to find more next time I see him

Thanks, I've never heard that but strange things do happen.
 
security guard at a dayton show told me that they busted a guy for doing that. They have all sorts of cameras set up at those shows-mainly to prevent theft. when I questioned him he noted it has been reported before. I will try to find more next time I see him


The following may be the story, but then again it may not as it does not specify why two of the four arrested were arrested

Gun show buys lead to arrests | www.daytondailynews.com
DAYTON — Two years after a local gun show was a target of a New York City investigation highlighting a loophole in federal firearms laws, local authorities arrested four men Saturday on a variety of weapons violations.

The operation targeted “private” or “occasional” sellers and buyers at Bill Goodman’s Gun & Knife Show at the Hara Arena on Saturday. Under federal laws, licensed firearms dealers must conduct background checks on those purchasing weapons. Private sellers, however, are not covered by the requirement.

“We organized the operation as part of the department’s initiative to get the guns off the streets,” said Dayton Lt. Brian Johns, head of the narcotics and vice unit.

One undercover detective saw two men approach a dealer and ask if he was a private seller. During the conversation, one of the men picked up a criminal background form “and quickly put the form back on the table,” according to the police report.

“He probably stopped at Question No. 2: ‘Have you been convicted of a felony,’” Johns said.

The two men eventually found a private seller. Unbeknowst to them, an undercover detective was standing right behind them monitoring the sale of .380-caliber semiautomatic pistol.
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Two other men also were jailed in connections with weapons violations.
 
Haven't heard about that. Mightly low-down thing to do.... all guns at shows are supposed to be unloaded...

If it was true, it would be. You would need a credible source to believe it, though.
 
I think there is more than meets the eye here. I have never heard of accidental shootings at gun shows. Now there are three in one day. Don't most shows prohibit bringing in loaded guns? It could just be my area, but if not, these people were also going against the rules and possibly state law.

I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but three in one day is not a coincidence.

the ones I go to they are pretty thorough checking bags and all weapons-can someone smuggle in a loaded weapon-yes. can someone buy a box of ammo or bring one in and covertly load a displayed gun-yes

another show they rope every gun coming in-you know put a piece of rope through the muzzle and out the action


Read the OP linked article, gentlemen.

The offender was in the process of unloading the shotgun at the check-in table
Show-goer Emory Lewis was standing nearby when the gun discharged.

"When I turned around, I heard the gun hit the table. And when I heard the gun hit the table, I heard the shot went off," he said. "And the guy that was standing right it front of me...it went through his hand. Then I heard a lady hollering – it went through her side somewhere."

then there was the guy who shot himself in Indianapolis, Man accidentally shot outside gun show
and there was the gun dealer who shot a friend while checking a semi-automatic he had just bought Dealer accidentally shoots man at Ohio gun show | Fox News

Pilot writes: "I have never heard of accidental shootings at gun shows." and here are three reported as happening over the course of a couple days. One possibility is that the fear being stirred up by the NRA and other groups has driven a whole bunch of folks to run out and buy firearms with insufficient understanding of the danger. But that doesn't work in the Ohio case where the shooter was a gun dealer, a person who is supposed to have some advanced knowledge of firearms. They man in Indianapolis may be one of those new gun owners as it sounds like he was trying to reload as he was walking to his car.

Those who are strong advocates for a literal reading of the second amendment should also be strong advocates of mandatory training before one is allowed to put their finger on a trigger or that 'horrible, liberal, non-study' which found that a person was "22 times more likely" to be injured or killed when firearms are kept in their home just become true. Then there was another study that didn't find the odds to be quite so bad but still found that a person was at an increased risk of death or injury when firearms are kept in the home.
 
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Must have different rules there. The shows here in OKC, there is an officer at the counter when you enter that inspects each gun brought in and puts a strap on it through the barrel so that it cannot be loaded.

Reason for the accident is simple, someone was a moron. Always, always treat a gun as loaded unless you have cleared and inspected the weapon yourself. Even then, you re-inspect it if you have been away from it before attempting to dry fire. Clearing it is always the first thing I do when handling a gun at a gun show, or even at a gun shop.
 
Must have different rules there. The shows here in OKC, there is an officer at the counter when you enter that inspects each gun brought in and puts a strap on it through the barrel so that it cannot be loaded.

Reason for the accident is simple, someone was a moron. Always, always treat a gun as loaded unless you have cleared and inspected the weapon yourself. Even then, you re-inspect it if you have been away from it before attempting to dry fire. Clearing it is always the first thing I do when handling a gun at a gun show, or even at a gun shop.

The rules for gun handling is simple and clear. Guns are fun but they are not a toy.

There should be zero tolerance for abusing guns. Have a gun in the act of crime then have the rest of your life in a prison cell. Discharge a gun in public by accident then spend a year in jail. Make the punishment leave a mark on the criminal or moron.
 
are you aware of the fact that anti gun fanatics have been arrested covertly loading displayed guns at shows to create accidents?l

If that is true then I would put them with people who drive nails into logging tree trunks and people who steal stop signs.
 
are you aware of the fact that anti gun fanatics have been arrested covertly loading displayed guns at shows to create accidents?l

Could you please provide a link so we can verify this rather serious claim of fact?
 
The rules for gun handling is simple and clear. Guns are fun but they are not a toy.

There should be zero tolerance for abusing guns. Have a gun in the act of crime then have the rest of your life in a prison cell. Discharge a gun in public by accident then spend a year in jail. Make the punishment leave a mark on the criminal or moron.

I will agree iff that is done for car "accidents" as well. It seems that unless you are drunk that no serious legal consequences result from moronic vehicle operation, we the sheeple must settle for liability insurance payouts and forgo any personal responsibility for those matters.
 
I stated where I learned of these actions

I believe you said it was merely a personal conversation.

So there is no verifiable evidence that such things happened. Thank you for confirming that.
 
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