New Nonprofit to Promote Obama Agenda.....

[MMC]

WASHINGTON (AP) — In an unprecedented move, President Barack Obama's vaunted political organization is being turned into a nonprofit group — funded in part by corporate money — to mobilize support behind the president's second-term agenda.

The tax-exempt organization will be called Organizing for Action and seek to harness the energy of Obama's re-election campaign for future legislative fights. Officials said the group will be separate from the Democratic National Committee and advocate on key policy issues such as gun control and immigration, train future leaders and devote attention to local issues around the country.

"Following in the footsteps of the campaign you built, Organizing for Action will be an unparalleled force in American politics," Obama said in an email to supporters Friday. "It will work to turn our shared values into legislative action, and it'll empower the next generation of leaders in our movement."

Obama campaign manager Jim Messina will serve as the group's national chairman, and White House official Jon Carson is leaving the administration to become its executive director. Democratic officials familiar with the group said the organization plans to accept donations from individuals and corporations — and disclose their identities — but not take money from lobbyists and political action committees, a move in line with donor rules set up for the president's inaugural committee. It will have offices in Washington and Chicago, the officials said.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the plans in advance of a public announcement on Friday.....snip~

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Now these guys are going to run His 2nd term Campaign to help him deal with issues like Gun Control and to train Future Leaders. U got to be kidding me.

 

[Einzige]

Now these guys are going to run His 2nd term Campaign to help him deal with issues like Gun Control and to train Future Leaders[/COLOR]. U got to be kidding me.

This is something most Presidents end up doing. Roosevelt did it with the New Deal coalition, and Nixon with his "Silent Majority". The only difference is that Obama's making it official.

It's pretty ****ing smart politics, actually. Of course, 'smart politics' and what you want are at a fundamental loggerheads.

 

[Fisher]

Gingrich did it with GoPac; Eleanor Roosevelt started some progressive groups that became PAC's; there is the Carter Center and the Clinton Initiative. It is just par for the course really.

 

[MMC]

This is something most Presidents end up doing. Roosevelt did it with the New Deal coalition, and Nixon with his "Silent Majority". The only difference is that Obama's making it official.

It's pretty ****ing smart politics, actually. Of course, 'smart politics' and what you want are at a fundamental loggerheads.

"Oh".....I don't recall Nixon with his Silent Majority Campaigning while going thru his 2nd term. Nor did Roosevelt. Did you mean they did so after they were out of Office?

Really.....only if you ACTUALLY happen to know what I want. Do you think all those companies should be tax exempt?

 

[MMC]

Gingrich did it with GoPac; Eleanor Roosevelt started some progressive groups that became PAC's; there is the Carter Center and the Clinton Initiative. It is just par for the course really.

Perhaps this puts little perspective on it even tho the OP calls the move Unprecedented.

Campaign finance experts said the creation of a nonprofit group with close ties to the president could raise questions about how donations from corporations might influence federal policy. Craig Holman, who lobbies on ethics and campaign finance for the watchdog group Public Citizen, said if the group receives corporate and special interest money, it could "pose some very serious problems."

The decision by the group to accept corporate donations also reflects Obama's shifting stance on campaign finance. He criticized pay-for-access activities during his first campaign and was a vocal opponent of "super" political action committees, which can raise and spend unlimited funds to help candidates. Obama later signed off on Democrats creating super PACs when he faced tens of millions of dollars in spending by allies of his Republican campaign challengers.....snip~

 

[Fisher]

Perhaps this puts little perspective on it even tho the OP calls the move Unprecedented.

Campaign finance experts said the creation of a nonprofit group with close ties to the president could raise questions about how donations from corporations might influence federal policy. Craig Holman, who lobbies on ethics and campaign finance for the watchdog group Public Citizen, said if the group receives corporate and special interest money, it could "pose some very serious problems."

The decision by the group to accept corporate donations also reflects Obama's shifting stance on campaign finance. He criticized pay-for-access activities during his first campaign and was a vocal opponent of "super" political action committees, which can raise and spend unlimited funds to help candidates. Obama later signed off on Democrats creating super PACs when he faced tens of millions of dollars in spending by allies of his Republican campaign challengers.....snip~

I worked for a PAC in DC for a bit. They are in it as thick as thieves. No matter where you draw the line, somebody will find a way around it even if it is just an arbitrary door between the "non-profit" side and the "for-profit" side of the essentially same office suite.

 

[MMC]

I worked for a PAC in DC for a bit. They are in it as thick as thieves. No matter where you draw the line, somebody will find a way around it even if it is just an arbitrary door between the "non-profit" side and the "for-profit" side of the essentially same office suite.

The group will be a 501 (c) (4) under the federal tax code, which grants tax-exempt status as long as organizations are not primarily involved in activity that could influence an election. As a nonprofit, it could run ads advocating support for an issue but could not be involved in political activity aimed at electing Democratic candidates.....snip~


Well.....one can see why. Although I did notice it does say it will empower the next generation of leaders to the movement and not the country!

 

[Fisher]

The group will be a 501 (c) (4) under the federal tax code, which grants tax-exempt status as long as organizations are not primarily involved in activity that could influence an election. As a nonprofit, it could run ads advocating support for an issue but could not be involved in political activity aimed at electing Democratic candidates.....snip~


Well.....one can see why. Although I did notice it does say it will empower the next generation of leaders to the movement and not the country!

Sure, and they "buy" the mailing list from another organization that "donates" the money to a campaign. PACs bundling and funneling money around their tax status has been going on every since there were PACs. As long as there are PACs, they will find a way if they so desire.

 

[specklebang]

Almost all non-profits are for profit in sheep's clothing. They are businesses that extract the money by selling services to themselves and paying connected ones juicy salaries and other rewards. It's just shameful really.

In my own home town, I have been at "war" with a "non-profit" for years. It ius owned by billionaires who add to their stashes by the techniques I mentioned above. They disguise themselves as an animal shelter but they kill most of the animals because they make more money that way and then they contract out the cremations of the bodies, rent a TENT for $5000 a month and extract their profits in other ways. You can read about this on my webpage if you like. Advocacy for exceptional cats in imminent danger

 

[ChunkySalsa]

Obama's the devil, I tells you, the DEVIL!!!!!!1! How dare he stoop so low and demean the office of Saint Reagan by resorting to politics.

Praise Jebus that we have the Krotch brothers and Murdoch singing the sweet harmony of truth to counteract this gay-atheist-muslim's vile propaganda.

 

[sangha]

Perhaps this puts little perspective on it even tho the OP calls the move Unprecedented.

Campaign finance experts said the creation of a nonprofit group with close ties to the president could raise questions about how donations from corporations might influence federal policy. Craig Holman, who lobbies on ethics and campaign finance for the watchdog group Public Citizen, said if the group receives corporate and special interest money, it could "pose some very serious problems."

The decision by the group to accept corporate donations also reflects Obama's shifting stance on campaign finance. He criticized pay-for-access activities during his first campaign and was a vocal opponent of "super" political action committees, which can raise and spend unlimited funds to help candidates. Obama later signed off on Democrats creating super PACs when he faced tens of millions of dollars in spending by allies of his Republican campaign challengers.....snip~

Oooh, non-specific "serious problems"

How scary!!

 

[MMC]

Oooh, non-specific "serious problems"

How scary!!

Awww.....no need to fear.

Remember it is Obama that is doing this and we all know how he would never go back on his own word and would never do anything that is wrong.

 

[LiberalAvenger]

Nothing about it in the national inquirer so it must be ok.:doh

 

[Deuce]

Awww.....no need to fear.

Remember it is Obama that is doing this and we all know how he would never go back on his own word and would never do anything that is wrong.

Is this supposed to justify your inability to name any specific problem you foresee?

And how come lobbying is only a problem when it's aimed at Democrats?

 

[MMC]

Is this supposed to justify your inability to name any specific problem you foresee?

And how come lobbying is only a problem when it's aimed at Democrats?

Campaign finance experts said the creation of a nonprofit group with close ties to the president could raise questions about how donations from corporations might influence federal policy. Craig Holman, who lobbies on ethics and campaign finance for the watchdog group Public Citizen, said if the group receives corporate and special interest money, it could "pose some very serious problems.".....snip~


Perhaps, you might read what the Watchdog group Public Citizen stated. Or what did you think they just made the issue up?

Btw Its the media that said Obama move to do this was unprecedented. Now why do you think they said that?

 

[Redbeard]

Considering some of the people involved and the level of their positions,

The group's board of directors will include several former White House and campaign aides, including former White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, top campaign officials Stephanie Cutter, Jennifer O'Malley-Dillon and Julianna Smoot, and Frank White, a businessman and prominent Obama donor.

White House aide David Plouffe, the 2008 campaign manager, is expected to join the board after he leaves the administration later this month. Obama campaign senior adviser David Axelrod will serve as a consultant to it.

gives bad vibes for the future.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Now these guys are going to run His 2nd term Campaign to help him deal with issues like Gun Control and to train Future Leaders. U got to be kidding me.

Your upset about this>?
Whats the problem with this?

 

[Paschendale]

I see no reason why this is any different from any other politician with close ties to any other lobby or political action group.

 

[sangha]

Campaign finance experts said the creation of a nonprofit group with close ties to the president could raise questions about how donations from corporations might influence federal policy. Craig Holman, who lobbies on ethics and campaign finance for the watchdog group Public Citizen, said if the group receives corporate and special interest money, it could "pose some very serious problems.".....snip~


Perhaps, you might read what the Watchdog group Public Citizen stated. Or what did you think they just made the issue up?

Btw Its the media that said Obama move to do this was unprecedented. Now why do you think they said that?

I read what you posted, and according to your own words, there's nothing there

 

[MMC]

Your upset about this>?
Whats the problem with this?

Campaign finance experts said the creation of a nonprofit group with close ties to the president could raise questions about how donations from corporations might influence federal policy. Craig Holman, who lobbies on ethics and campaign finance for the watchdog group Public Citizen, said if the group receives corporate and special interest money, it could "pose some very serious problems.".....snip~

Besides that.....I think he could have waited until his term was over like all the others before him. I wouldn't say I am upset about it. Especially if it causes any riffs between the Democrats and himself.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Campaign finance experts said the creation of a nonprofit group with close ties to the president could raise questions about how donations from corporations might influence federal policy. Craig Holman, who lobbies on ethics and campaign finance for the watchdog group Public Citizen, said if the group receives corporate and special interest money, it could "pose some very serious problems.".....snip~

Well hate to tell you that this kind of activity and corporate influence within the government has been going on since the early 1900's....
This is nothing new and typical US politics.

 

[MMC]

Well hate to tell you that this kind of activity and corporate influence within the government has been going on since the early 1900's....
This is nothing new and typical US politics.

Yeah but I think the OP called what Obama was doing unprecedented due to him still being in office. Also I would note the comment about the Next generation of leaders for the movement. Earlier I said I noticed it didn't say country.

 

[sangha]

Yeah but I think the OP called what Obama was doing unprecedented due to him still being in office. Also I would note the comment about the Next generation of leaders for the movement. Earlier I said I noticed it didn't say country. :shrug:

We should criminalize unprecedented actions. If we don't nip this in the bud, our children will grow up experiencing an uncountable # of new and original experiences.

 

[MMC]

We should criminalize unprecedented actions. If we don't nip this in the bud, our children will grow up experiencing an uncountable # of new and original experiences.

Guess you shouldn't be surprised then since we have been doing so with the likes of Hollywood and the Sportsworld too. Even those in religion as well. But don't worry you will get use to it. Or become comfortably numb to it.

 

[sangha]

Guess you shouldn't be surprised then since we have been doing so with the likes of Hollywood and the Sportsworld too. Even those in religion as well. But don't worry you will get use to it. Or become comfortably numb to it.

IOW, there are precedents for this unprecedented event!! :doh: