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RabidAlpaca said:
All of which they could've done whether she was their teacher or not.

Fact is what you believe constitutes a "good learning environment" is extremely subjective, and comes at the expense of an innocent person's job.
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Just because something isn't illegal, doesn't mean that it doesn't come with some consequences. That is something that people need to understand. Sometimes a stupid mistake can eff up your whole life.
 
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I don't think it's unreasonable to expect more from people who work directly with children.
 
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ChrisL said:
Nope, I disagree. It's about the students and providing them with a good learning environment. This teacher is nothing but a distraction that the children shouldn't have to deal with. Little boys can't control what happens in their pants (as is the case with many men - LOL). They can just jump on the net anytime and watch this lady screwing whoever or whatever, being humiliated (according to other posters who claim to have seen some of her films), choked and gagged, simulated rape scenes, etc., etc., etc.
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So what.

That is the students fault not the teachers.

Besides, it's not like kids don't have fantasies about screwing teachers that didn't partake in porn (I know I did :)). So I suppose the whole "distraction" point is moot.
 
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ChrisL said:
Nope, I disagree. It's about the students and providing them with a good learning environment. This teacher is nothing but a distraction that the children shouldn't have to deal with. Little boys can't control what happens in their pants (as is the case with many men - LOL). They can just jump on the net anytime and watch this lady screwing whoever or whatever, being humiliated (according to other posters who claim to have seen some of her films), choked and gagged, simulated rape scenes, etc., etc., etc.
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opinion supported by your bias not facts

I could say the same thing about a race, gender, religion, sexuality, a handicap, a relationship, a physical size/shape etc etc

the WOMAN shouldnt have to deal with parents/faculty allowing/supporting the kids acting uncivil.

no matter how you spin it blindly calling her slut, whore, etc and comparing her to criminals and child molesters is ugly, ignorant and stereotypical behavior that shouldnt be done and certainly shouldnt be taught to the kids which is exactly what is happening now.

making excuses for the kids to be disrespectful or not respect authority is a very weak argument ill never buy being a youth at one time myself and now working with them. My parent would have never tolerated me "not being able to focus" based on a ADULT/TEACHERS past or being disrespectful based on an ADULT/TEACHERS past and rightfully so because I was the CHILD.

IF that teacher was actually a good teacher and dindt violate her contract/agreement what they did is teach the kids its ok to disgrement and be judgmental and punish a person based on blind opinion. Its shameful.
 
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ChrisL said:
Just because something isn't illegal, doesn't mean that it doesn't come with some consequences. That is something that people need to understand. Sometimes a stupid mistake can eff up your whole life.
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And you're going to make damn sure it screws her whole life up, right?

You keep saying your BS comments about "Oh, she can just find another job". Well, not in teaching anymore after that. Which means her teaching degree is worthless, and now she's on the street without a job. She's also probably too old for porn. Not everyone can just jump up and go back to school for 4 years to get another degree.
 
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ChrisL said:
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect more from people who work directly with children.
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more than what?

i dont think its unreasonable to assess a teacher on her TEACHING ablity and not blindly judge her on something you think is icky.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
So what.

That is the students fault not the teachers.

Besides, it's not like kids don't have fantasies about screwing teachers that didn't partake in porn (I know I did :)). So I suppose the whole "distraction" point is moot.
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Not when you can jump online and watch your teacher getting screwed in every way by whoever and with whatever. That is a distraction. IMO, anyone who believes otherwise MUST be delusional. Or maybe just hot for teacher. :lamo
 
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ChrisL said:
Just because something isn't illegal, doesn't mean that it doesn't come with some consequences. That is something that people need to understand. Sometimes a stupid mistake can eff up your whole life.
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what stupid mistake are you referring to?
again you are showing your blind bias.
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
And you're going to make damn sure it screws her whole life up, right?

You keep saying your BS comments about "Oh, she can just find another job". Well, not in teaching anymore after that. Which means her teaching degree is worthless, and now she's on the street without a job. She's also probably too old for porn. Not everyone can just jump up and go back to school for 4 years to get another degree.
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Oh well. No one ever said life was fair. Obviously the community and school board expect more from their teaching staff. Maybe you should start a petition or something?
 
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ChrisL said:
Oh well. No one ever said life was fair. Obviously the community and school board expect more from their teaching staff. Maybe you should start a petition or something?
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Nope. I personally don't care, I just want people to be honest. It has nothing to do with her disrupting the class. It has to do with you and the others absolutely not being able to stand a porn star working as a teacher, and the administrators lacking the balls to stand up to the intolerant and hateful parents.
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
Nope. I personally don't care, I just want people to be honest. It has nothing to do with her disrupting the class. It has to do with you and the others absolutely not being able to stand a porn star working as a teacher, and the administrators lacking the balls to stand up to the intolerant and hateful parents.
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Well, I don't know how others feel, but for me, I believe it's a disruption. This is one reason why some schools require uniforms and/or length requirements on skirts and such things. Just common sense for me.
 
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ChrisL said:
Not when you can jump online and watch your teacher getting screwed in every way by whoever and with whatever. That is a distraction. IMO, anyone who believes otherwise MUST be delusional. Or maybe just hot for teacher. :lamo
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of simply not bias and expect kids to respect adults/authority figures not be blindly judgmental and also "not be able to watch porn anytime the want" another parental failure.
 
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Objective-J said:
of simply not bias and expect kids to respect adults/authority figures not be blindly judgmental and also "not be able to watch porn anytime the want" another parental failure.
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Yup, some parents aren't around to supervise their kids 24/7.
 
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ChrisL said:
Yup, some parents aren't around to supervise their kids 24/7.
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who said 24/7

you said jump on line, like its at will, am i mistaken?

not to mention i have a daughter, i dont supervise her 24/7, guess what, she has parental blocks on her phone, laptop and tablet. Im also the admin on them all and i set up the passwords and she isnt allowed to change them.

but most importantly if she came home and told me she wasnt going to respect, listen or conduct herself according in SCHOOL, in CLASS because a teacher was this that or another(that doesnt harm her) that type of behavior would be quickly be corrected and not tolerated.

But then again my daughter was taught well enough and better where she wouldnt even DREAM of using such BS as an excuse to not properly behave.
 
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ChrisL said:
Not when you can jump online and watch your teacher getting screwed in every way by whoever and with whatever. That is a distraction. IMO, anyone who believes otherwise MUST be delusional. Or maybe just hot for teacher. :lamo
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You can blame technology and those who desire to watch it for that one - not the teacher.

The teachers sexual exploits have absolutely no barring on weather or not she is a good teacher or not.

Lets also not forget that she isn't currently making porn films - she only did it for 6 months. However even if she was still doing these films my point would still stand. Her personal life has absolutely nothing to do with her job as a teacher.

You leave your job at your job - after that it's your time, it's your personal life.
 
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Objective-J said:
who said 24/7

you said jump on line, like its at will, am i mistaken?

not to mention i have a daughter, i dont supervise her 24/7, guess what, she has parental blocks on her phone, laptop and tablet. Im also the admin on them all and i set up the passwords and she isnt allowed to change them.

but most importantly if she came home and told me she wasnt going to respect, listen or conduct herself according in SCHOOL, in CLASS because a teacher was this that or another(that doesnt harm her) that type of behavior would be quickly be corrected and not tolerated.

But then again my daughter was taught well enough and better where she wouldnt even DREAM of using such BS as an excuse to not properly behave.
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LOL! Well, kids do go to their friends' houses, use their friends' phones with internet access, especially middle-school aged children who are around 12. Also, a child doesn't have to act up in school to not be paying attention you know. Good grief! :roll: It's about what the boys are thinking about when teacher is trying to teach a lesson.
 
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Objective-J said:
who said 24/7

you said jump on line, like its at will, am i mistaken?

not to mention i have a daughter, i dont supervise her 24/7, guess what, she has parental blocks on her phone, laptop and tablet. Im also the admin on them all and i set up the passwords and she isnt allowed to change them.

but most importantly if she came home and told me she wasnt going to respect, listen or conduct herself according in SCHOOL, in CLASS because a teacher was this that or another(that doesnt harm her) that type of behavior would be quickly be corrected and not tolerated.

But then again my daughter was taught well enough and better where she wouldnt even DREAM of using such BS as an excuse to not properly behave.
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You sound like a good parent who takes personal responsibility for the upbringing of your child. You're not trying to blame any of your parenting failures on a teacher's past.
 
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ChrisL said:
LOL! Well, kids do go to their friends' houses, use their friends' phones with internet access, especially middle-school aged children who are around 12. Also, a child doesn't have to act up in school to not be paying attention you know. Good grief! :roll: It's about what the boys are thinking about when teacher is trying to teach a lesson.
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Im aware but the point is thats failure on the parents part not the teachers and I dont care what the boys are thinking, if they are taught properly and not allowed to make up a BS excuse they learn.

like i said for my kid its simply not a OPTIONS because she knows there would be consequences, period. I would never allow her to blindly judge someone with bias, i expect more of my child and rightfully so. If you think its ok for the kids to use some BS excuse to misbehave/not learn i dont know what to tell you but i dont. Kid wil be kids and EVERYTHING is a distraction, you allow them to use that excuse or you teach them better, pretty simple.

If the kids are distracted thats failure on the parents and faculty not the teacher.
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
You sound like a good parent who takes personal responsibility for the upbringing of your child. You're not trying to blame any of your parenting failures on a teacher's past.
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exactly, i was raised better and i raise my daughter better.

The main problem with education nowadays IMO most parents have this "not my kid", "victim" or "im on my kids side no matter what" mentality and its a disgrace.
 
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Objective-J said:
exactly, i was raised better and i raise my daughter better.

The main problem with education nowadays IMO most parents have this "not my kid", "victim" or "im on my kids side no matter what" mentality and its a disgrace.
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Lol, I know what you mean. I got suspended for something my dad completely agreed with me on, but he still grounded my ass lol.
 
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It might have been mentioned already ( I didn't feel like reading 65 pages....) I'm not saying I agree with this but what about Bill Ayers? It's ok to go from terrorist to "elementary education theorist" but not from pornstart to teacher?
 
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I stated my opinion and I'll state it one more time (since you guys are BORDERLINE personally attacking me - why I have no idea) and then I'm out of this thread. But anyhow I don't think it is appropriate for former or current sex industry workers to work so closely with impressionable children. Whether or not the parents are good parents or bad parents is besides the point. If the parents are not there to supervise and the children are online watching their teacher's "performances" it is NOT the fault of the child. I believe that schools should ALWAYS put the best interests of the students (ALL students - even neglected ones) before the best interests of the teachers or any staff/faculty members. That is just my opinion. It is nothing personal. :shrug: Of course, nobody has to like it, and there is nothing I can do about that.
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
You sound like a good parent who takes personal responsibility for the upbringing of your child. You're not trying to blame any of your parenting failures on a teacher's past.
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I could blame teachers for a lot of things, however their sex life in pornography is not one of them...
 
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ChrisL said:
I stated my opinion and I'll state it one more time (since you guys are BORDERLINE personally attacking me - why I have no idea) and then I'm out of this thread. But anyhow I don't think it is appropriate for former or current sex industry workers to work so closely with impressionable children. Whether or not the parents are good parents or bad parents is besides the point. If the parents are not there to supervise and the children are online watching their teacher's "performances" it is NOT the fault of the child. I believe that schools should ALWAYS put the best interests of the students (ALL students - even neglected ones) before the best interests of the teachers or any staff/faculty members. That is just my opinion. It is nothing personal. :shrug: Of course, nobody has to like it, and there is nothing I can do about that.
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Fully agree.
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
All of which they could've done whether she was their teacher or not.

Fact is what you believe constitutes a "good learning environment" is extremely subjective, and comes at the expense of an innocent person's job.
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Again, NOT innocent. She still lied to get the job and to keep it. She still did the choke porn. I know, YOU think it doesn't matter, shouldn't matter. But you're wrong, it does. Every state has a morals clause for teachers. Students who are becoming teachers know this. I know that for a fact. SHE knew it, it's why she lied and left it off her application.

And no, this is not the time to bring up your debunked bit about lawn mowing.
 
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