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Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to cla

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Of course I wouldn't like my daughter to be in porn, but if she's an adult, that's her decision. I'm not going to go cry to her boss to try to get her fired.

I don't know man, I know a guy who's pretty well known as male talent and even a number of people that work in production, and the industry is pretty crusty: stuff like blatent racism, high levels of addiction, people feeling legally unsafe and morally uncomfortable doing scene(due to how the girl was manipulated or obvious not in a competent state, suit case pimps, etc
 
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I don't know man, I know a guy who's pretty well known as male talent and even a number of people that work in production, and the industry is pretty crusty: stuff like blatent racism, high levels of addiction, people feeling legally unsafe and morally uncomfortable doing scene(due to how the girl was manipulated or obvious not in a competent state, suit case pimps, etc
Well, if women in porn are really the victims, as you suggest, that's even less reason to fire them later when they try to get an upstanding job.
 
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Well, if women in porn are really the victims, as you suggest, that's even less reason to fire them later when they try to get an upstanding job.

That isn't what I said in the slightest. I pointed to the questionable morals of the industry and instances that involve a likely vuctim of a crime. That comes nowhere close to claiming all women in porn are victims
 
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A pretty negative look is a BBC doc called " hardcore" or something similar
 
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I've read that a lot of women in the porn industry were sexually abused as children and they think that the only they are worthy of is being a sexual object.

At first, I was only attacking this particular woman and her stupidity, but since people want to sing the praises and the sanctity of the porn industry, I'm definitely going to take a deeper look into this phenomenon and why certain women would get into this line of work to begin with. Interesting stuff. :)
I guess that's just the difference. I don't care why they got into porn. They are sovereign human beings who have made their lifestyle choices. When they decide some day later to put porn behind them and get an upstanding job, I'm not going to be hating on them and try to get them fired.

You don't seem to care about their well-being at all, so stop acting like you do.
 
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I guess that's just the difference. I don't care why they got into porn. They are sovereign human beings who have made their lifestyle choices. When they decide some day later to put porn behind them and get an upstanding job, I'm not going to be hating on them and try to get them fired.

You don't seem to care about their well-being at all, so stop acting like you do.

Lol! You are funny!

Of course I care about them. Just because I don't think they should be in charge of or teaching children does not mean I don't care about them. They can easily get work that doesn't involve children.

It's you who doesn't care about them. You are not at all concerned about them, their welfare, why they got into the business, whether or not they are happy, just so long as you get to see your "performances" by them. It is quite obvious to all here, I'm sure, where some of the men's concerns lie, and it's pretty disgusting and selfish to say the very least. As if the pornography business is a respectable venture or something. Good grief!
 
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I guess that's just the difference. I don't care why they got into porn. They are sovereign human beings who have made their lifestyle choices. When they decide some day later to put porn behind them and get an upstanding job, I'm not going to be hating on them and try to get them fired.

You don't seem to care about their well-being at all, so stop acting like you do.

Quoted and highlighted to make my point.
 
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Lol! You are funny!

Of course I care about them. Just because I don't think they should be in charge of or teaching children does not mean I don't care about them. They can easily get work that doesn't involve children.

It's you who doesn't care about them. You are not at all concerned about them, their welfare, why they got into the business, whether or not they are happy, just so long as you get to see your "performances" by them. It is quite obvious to all here, I'm sure, where some of the men's concerns lie, and it's pretty disgusting and selfish to say the very least. As if the pornography business is a respectable venture or something. Good grief!

No, I just don't make up my mind about what legal professions are respectable, and which aren't. I also then don't take those preconceived notions and try to convince people that anyone who was once in one of those professions should be fired from their current jobs.

While you're doing your research about why people become pornstars, let me know if you come across anybody saying "I became a pornstar because my middle school teacher used to be one." I'm willing to bet there are much more serious reasons than that, and that you all just might be overreacting.

Quoted and highlighted to make my point.

Nope, I really dont' care. I also don't care why some people are gay, some are muslims, and some like dungeons and dragons. I respect their right to live their lives as they choose.
 
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No, I just don't make up my mind about what legal professions are respectable, and which aren't. I also then don't take those preconceived notions and try to convince people that anyone who was once in one of those professions should be fired from their current jobs.

While you're doing your research about why people become pornstars, let me know if you come across anybody saying "I became a pornstar because my middle school teacher used to be one." I'm willing to bet there are much more serious reasons than that, and that you all just might be overreacting.



Nope, I really dont' care. I also don't care why some people are gay, some are muslims, and some like dungeons and dragons. I respect their right to live their lives as they choose.

Yes, I think it's attitudes like this that are the reason why no one cares about anyone else anymore. Who cares as long as it isn't YOUR daughter. :roll: All of these responses are typical for guys who are so self-centered that they only care about getting their rocks off with their pornography obsessions. To hell with the human suffering involved.

BTW, even if they ARE victims, as you say, it was ultimately their decisions to partake in this profession. Therefore, the school system and society are NOT to blame for this particular woman's choices in life. She has to live with the consequences of her poor choices now. That's all there is too it. It's called having personal responsibility and taking responsibility for your own actions in life.

There are PLENTY of professions that she could choose that do not involve children, or at least not to the extent of being a teacher would.

Also, do you think that children should be allowed to legally view pornography and that it is a healthy thing for boys of 12 years old to be viewing some of the pornography that is out today, a lot of which simulates rape and humiliation role-playing?
 
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AND THIS IS THE ICING ON THE CAKE!!!! lol

porn star is now equal to criminals and child molesters! wow, thanks

Shame on you ChrisL, you are better than that

Sorry OJ. Didn't mean to ignore you, but you just posted WAY too many responses all at once. If there is something in particular you would like me to address, feel free to ask.
 
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The men that are supporting this woman KNOW that pornography is not a good lifestyle for MOST women. They are supporting this because of their own selfish desires. They don't care at ALL about the women, why they would participate in this profession, etc.

The most telling of this is when the term, "who cares if they enjoyed it?" is used. :(

Your position is self contradictory because you are using the victimization of the female performers to demonize the porn business, yet you want to add to a former female performer's hardship by supporting the decision to ban the ex-performer from her career of choice because of her past.
 
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.... Forced intercourse was most accepted was that in which the girl had sexually excited her date.

That is the traditional conservative view that "sluts" are lesser beings that deserve all of the mistreatment that they may encounter. That is why we have politicians talking about "legitimate rape," Rush Limbaugh calling a college student a slut for advocating for access to contraceptives, and a school board and judge willing to ruin the career of a teacher for video recorded sex acts that she did seven years ago.
 
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Oh and another thing, maybe some parents DON'T want some porn slut teaching their children. There's nothing wrong with that. If the majority of parents don't want her teaching their children, then that is completely fair.



ck, we should let murders, pimps and drug dealers teach our kids too, maybe even some "reformed" pedobears.

They don't care at ALL about the women, why they would participate in this profession, etc.
Excellent example of the conservative mindset: Call a porn star a slut and the equivalent of a muderer, but those who criticize firing her for her past are the ones who "don't care at ALL about the women."
 
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Sorry OJ. Didn't mean to ignore you, but you just posted WAY too many responses all at once. If there is something in particular you would like me to address, feel free to ask.

no biggie you werent here and i was playing catch up because i was gone for a day or so and was pages behind :)

thats up to you if you want to repsond I stated my points i just think that logically you are better than you posted because you showed your biased which is obviously effecting your reasoning thats all.

Now by all means you do NOT have to think well of this woman but your verbiage exposed your bias in THIS particular case that all and i think you are better.

See post 559

thanks
 
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even more telling, sorry ChrisL but you are exposing yourself and your bias for this woman.

What would you say to somebody using this type of language against a WOMEN in general just cause she is a woman? or a Muslim, or gay, or Latino etc, handicap?

All of the things you mentioned above are beyond a person's control. Performing in pornography is a choice.

Also, you don't know me well enough to claim anything about me, never mind whether or not I have a bias against anything.
 
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That is the traditional conservative view that "sluts" are lesser beings that deserve all of the mistreatment that they may encounter. That is why we have politicians talking about "legitimate rape," Rush Limbaugh calling a college student a slut for advocating for access to contraceptives, and a school board and judge willing to ruin the career of a teacher for video recorded sex acts that she did seven years ago.

That's too bad. This is about the kids and what is best for them, providing them with the BEST environment possible for learning, because that is that matters.
 
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I noticed that no one addressed the link I put up. I don't care what any of you say about "morals" and "values" and what not, that is one of the most effing disgusting things I have ever read!!!
 
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I noticed that no one addressed the link I put up. I don't care what any of you say about "morals" and "values" and what not, that is one of the most effing disgusting things I have ever read!!!
No one here ever said they wanted to become one, just that they weren't going to try to get people fired because they once were in porn.

I still haven't seen anybody that's become a pornstar because their middle school teacher used to be one. Perhaps our kinds aren't the gentle little flowers you make them out to be, and perhaps they can learn to be tolerant of people. I don't have much hope for you though.
 
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No one here ever said they wanted to become one, just that they weren't going to try to get people fired because they once were in porn.

I still haven't seen anybody that's become a pornstar because their middle school teacher used to be one. Perhaps our kinds aren't the gentle little flowers you make them out to be, and perhaps they can learn to be tolerant of people. I don't have much hope for you though.

Maybe you should first ask yourself " how many kids likely had a porn star teacher in MS?".

I'm sure the number is pretty insignificant, assuming you even managed to find a prior incident that was similar to the op.

PS she let grease balls slap their cocks on her face for a few hundred dollars. Of course people are going to have a hard time respecting her.
 
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Maybe you should first ask yourself " how many kids likely had a porn star teacher in MS?".

I'm sure the number is pretty insignificant, assuming you even managed to find a prior incident that was similar to the op.

PS she let grease balls slap their cocks on her face for a few hundred dollars. Of course people are going to have a hard time respecting her.
It doesn't effect her job. A lot of us have performed crazy sexual acts for free. A lot of women become pornstars because they have daddy issues. So perhaps parents should focus on being better parents instead of trying to fire an innocent teacher.

Would you ignore your boss at work if she used to be a porn star? Or would you, respect or not, do what you're told because there will be consequences otherwise.
 
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It doesn't effect her job. A lot of us have performed crazy sexual acts for free. A lot of women become pornstars because they have daddy issues. So perhaps parents should focus on being better parents instead of trying to fire an innocent teacher.

Would you ignore your boss at work if she used to be a porn star? Or would you, respect or not, do what you're told because there will be consequences otherwise.

Lol, so we're back to arguing a junior high is like a professional work environment?
 
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Lol, so we're back to arguing a junior high is like a professional work environment?
In a lot of ways it is. Is school not preparing you for the real world? The teacher is your "boss", and if you don't do what the teacher asks of you, or you harass the teacher, there will be major consequences.

Your synopsis has been children CAN NOT be disciplined, so we must fire the teacher for being harassed.
 
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Your synopsis has been children CAN NOT be disciplined, so we must fire the teacher for being harassed.

No, that is just one of the many arguments you keep claiming I am making. In fact we extensively went over the subject like two days ago
 
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No one here ever said they wanted to become one, just that they weren't going to try to get people fired because they once were in porn.

I still haven't seen anybody that's become a pornstar because their middle school teacher used to be one. Perhaps our kinds aren't the gentle little flowers you make them out to be, and perhaps they can learn to be tolerant of people. I don't have much hope for you though.

Too bad. Your argument is retarded to say the least. Give the poor porno queen a second chance at the expense of the children learning? Nope sorry, the classroom is not the place for redemption. She can get a job that does not involve working so closely with children. School is about the kids, not the teachers.

The school board only has to ask themselves one question, is this teacher going to be a distraction to the students? Obviously they thought so, and they would know their student body much better than you I'm afraid.
 
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