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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
Here is some relevant data I copied from the link, because it is rather a long read. And so, yes, I would say that a 12-year-old boy viewing his teacher (an authority figure in his life) in a pornographic film will have at least SOME effect on him and how he views his teacher and perhaps even his other female teachers.
One study of high school students found very high rates of "rape supportive beliefs", that is,
acceptance of rape myths and violence against women. The boys who were the most frequent
consumers of pornography and/or who reported learning a lot from it, were more accepting of
rape supportive beliefs than their peers who were less frequent consumers and/or who said they
had not learned as much from it. A full 25% of girls and 57% of boys indicated belief that in one
or more situations, it was at least "maybe okay" for a boy to hold a girl down and force her to
have intercourse. Further, only 21% of the boys and 57% of the girls believed that forced
intercourse was "definitely not okay" in any of the situations. Forced intercourse was most
accepted was that in which the girl had sexually excited her date. In this case 43% of the boys
and 16% of the girls stated that if was at least "maybe okay" for the boy to force intercourse.
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"After only 10 minutes of exposure to aggressive pornography, particularly material in which
women are shown being aggressed against, you find male subjects are much more willing to
accept these particular myths ... These males are also more inclined to believe that 25% of the
women they know would enjoy being raped.
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Students were randomly assigned to view either a feature-length film that portrayed violence
against women as being justifiable and having positive consequences ("Swept Away", "The
Getaway") or a film without sexual violence. The experiment showed that exposure to the
sexually violent movies increased the male subjects' acceptance of interpersonal violence against
women. This outcome did not occur with the female subjects. These effects were measured
several days after the films had been seen.
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Here is some relevant data I copied from the link, because it is rather a long read. And so, yes, I would say that a 12-year-old boy viewing his teacher (an authority figure in his life) in a pornographic film will have at least SOME effect on him and how he views his teacher and perhaps even his other female teachers.
One study of high school students found very high rates of "rape supportive beliefs", that is,
acceptance of rape myths and violence against women. The boys who were the most frequent
consumers of pornography and/or who reported learning a lot from it, were more accepting of
rape supportive beliefs than their peers who were less frequent consumers and/or who said they
had not learned as much from it. A full 25% of girls and 57% of boys indicated belief that in one
or more situations, it was at least "maybe okay" for a boy to hold a girl down and force her to
have intercourse. Further, only 21% of the boys and 57% of the girls believed that forced
intercourse was "definitely not okay" in any of the situations. Forced intercourse was most
accepted was that in which the girl had sexually excited her date. In this case 43% of the boys
and 16% of the girls stated that if was at least "maybe okay" for the boy to force intercourse.
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"After only 10 minutes of exposure to aggressive pornography, particularly material in which
women are shown being aggressed against, you find male subjects are much more willing to
accept these particular myths ... These males are also more inclined to believe that 25% of the
women they know would enjoy being raped.
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Students were randomly assigned to view either a feature-length film that portrayed violence
against women as being justifiable and having positive consequences ("Swept Away", "The
Getaway") or a film without sexual violence. The experiment showed that exposure to the
sexually violent movies increased the male subjects' acceptance of interpersonal violence against
women. This outcome did not occur with the female subjects. These effects were measured
several days after the films had been seen.
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
No one is going to answer me? Well, I don't want to have to watch them . . . even in the name of research! :lamo
No one is going to answer me? Well, I don't want to have to watch them . . . even in the name of research! :lamo
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
1.) actually its very common lol
2.) then i guess you didnt have one
3.) its factual not dumb and its part of the problem with education today
4.) nope not wrong, he is only distracted if the parents, teacher and faculty lets him be, he shouldnt be given the choice, its a cop out
5.) opinion
6.) again never said life is fair but i hope theres nothing in her contract or agreements thats she violated and she gets to sue the pants off the school/ gets her job back or her pay her while she is transfer
BUT IF she did violate her contract or agreement then sorry about her luck :shrug:
1.) actually its very common lol
2.) then i guess you didnt have one
3.) its factual not dumb and its part of the problem with education today
4.) nope not wrong, he is only distracted if the parents, teacher and faculty lets him be, he shouldnt be given the choice, its a cop out
5.) opinion
6.) again never said life is fair but i hope theres nothing in her contract or agreements thats she violated and she gets to sue the pants off the school/ gets her job back or her pay her while she is transfer
BUT IF she did violate her contract or agreement then sorry about her luck :shrug:
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
I dont because most kids have hot teachers and want to bang them :shrug:
you are treating the kids like they are little animals not capable of self discipline, even in middle school they are if they know thats they only choice they have.
I dont because most kids have hot teachers and want to bang them :shrug:
you are treating the kids like they are little animals not capable of self discipline, even in middle school they are if they know thats they only choice they have.
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
of course thats different because it doesnt have the "negative" persona
but you hit the nail right on the head, its a crock to act like this really matters, it only matter if parents and faculty let it
of course thats different because it doesnt have the "negative" persona
but you hit the nail right on the head, its a crock to act like this really matters, it only matter if parents and faculty let it
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
If shes a good tacher id have ZERO issues with it :shrug:
why would i care if shes a good teacher, it be illogical to worry about it
If shes a good tacher id have ZERO issues with it :shrug:
why would i care if shes a good teacher, it be illogical to worry about it
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
you understand how telling this is right?
you are proving the point about how its simply about peoples negative perception/morals and not anything real
you understand how telling this is right?
you are proving the point about how its simply about peoples negative perception/morals and not anything real
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
even more telling, sorry ChrisL but you are exposing yourself and your bias for this woman.
What would you say to somebody using this type of language against a WOMEN in general just cause she is a woman? or a Muslim, or gay, or Latino etc, handicap?
even more telling, sorry ChrisL but you are exposing yourself and your bias for this woman.
What would you say to somebody using this type of language against a WOMEN in general just cause she is a woman? or a Muslim, or gay, or Latino etc, handicap?
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
more evidence
how do you possible know what she did? and how little of her self she thinks?
more evidence
how do you possible know what she did? and how little of her self she thinks?
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
AND THIS IS THE ICING ON THE CAKE!!!! lol
porn star is now equal to criminals and child molesters! wow, thanks
Shame on you ChrisL, you are better than that
AND THIS IS THE ICING ON THE CAKE!!!! lol
porn star is now equal to criminals and child molesters! wow, thanks
Shame on you ChrisL, you are better than that
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
So prudery, as i said.
So prudery, as i said.
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
Or perhaps she was just following the old.saw: If you do something you love for a.living you'll never work.a.day in your life.
Of course a woman who enjoys sex is considered offensive by many women.
Lowers the value of their stock.
Or perhaps she was just following the old.saw: If you do something you love for a.living you'll never work.a.day in your life.
Of course a woman who enjoys sex is considered offensive by many women.
Lowers the value of their stock.
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
You're wrong. A woman can enjoy sex and not have to do it on film with everyone. That has absolutely nothing to do with a fondness for sexual activity. It's really nothing more than prostitution.
Call me a prude if it makes you feel better about yourself for supporting the sexual objectivity of women if you will, but a person who would do such things for money is NOT someone with much integrity for themselves and is someone who is totally lacking in the self-respect department IMO. :shrug:
You're wrong. A woman can enjoy sex and not have to do it on film with everyone. That has absolutely nothing to do with a fondness for sexual activity. It's really nothing more than prostitution.
Call me a prude if it makes you feel better about yourself for supporting the sexual objectivity of women if you will, but a person who would do such things for money is NOT someone with much integrity for themselves and is someone who is totally lacking in the self-respect department IMO. :shrug:
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
I mean, really, how ridiculous is that? Women who don't participate in or don't think that porno flicks are necessarily a good way to earn money are prudes? :lamo Laughable.
I mean, really, how ridiculous is that? Women who don't participate in or don't think that porno flicks are necessarily a good way to earn money are prudes? :lamo Laughable.
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
If I recall correctly the majority of women that appear in pornos report that they did not enjoy it after.
If I recall correctly the majority of women that appear in pornos report that they did not enjoy it after.
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
Who cares if they enjoyed it after? It's about enjoying it in the moment.
Who cares if they enjoyed it after? It's about enjoying it in the moment.
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Why would you want women to behave in this manner?
Why would you want women to behave in this manner?
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
Would you feel that way if it were YOUR daughter in porno flicks? Tell me, would not have a problem with your daughter behaving in such a manner? Would you actually be proud of your daughter and her "career" choice? How about if it was your mother or maybe your grandma?
All of these women are SOMEBODY's daughter, even though a lot of you men like to not think about that part, right?
Would you feel that way if it were YOUR daughter in porno flicks? Tell me, would not have a problem with your daughter behaving in such a manner? Would you actually be proud of your daughter and her "career" choice? How about if it was your mother or maybe your grandma?
All of these women are SOMEBODY's daughter, even though a lot of you men like to not think about that part, right?
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
you might have an overly ideal image of the porn industry
you might have an overly ideal image of the porn industry
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
The men that are supporting this woman KNOW that pornography is not a good lifestyle for MOST women. They are supporting this because of their own selfish desires. They don't care at ALL about the women, why they would participate in this profession, etc.
The most telling of this is when the term, "who cares if they enjoyed it?" is used.
The men that are supporting this woman KNOW that pornography is not a good lifestyle for MOST women. They are supporting this because of their own selfish desires. They don't care at ALL about the women, why they would participate in this profession, etc.
The most telling of this is when the term, "who cares if they enjoyed it?" is used.
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
Of course I wouldn't like my daughter to be in porn, but if she's an adult, that's her decision. I'm not going to go cry to her boss to try to get her fired.
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
Lol, I was saying they admitted they didn't enjoy it in the moment.
Lol, I was saying they admitted they didn't enjoy it in the moment.
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Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to
I know I was just screwing with you. The other kids didn't pick up on that.
Lol, I was saying they admitted they didn't enjoy it in the moment.
I know I was just screwing with you.
The other kids didn't pick up on that.
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I've read that a lot of women in the porn industry were sexually abused as children and they think that the only they are worthy of is being a sexual object.
At first, I was only attacking this particular woman and her stupidity, but since people want to sing the praises and the sanctity of the porn industry, I'm definitely going to take a deeper look into this phenomenon and why certain women would get into this line of work to begin with. Interesting stuff.
Lol, I was saying they admitted they didn't enjoy it in the moment.
I've read that a lot of women in the porn industry were sexually abused as children and they think that the only they are worthy of is being a sexual object.
At first, I was only attacking this particular woman and her stupidity, but since people want to sing the praises and the sanctity of the porn industry, I'm definitely going to take a deeper look into this phenomenon and why certain women would get into this line of work to begin with. Interesting stuff.