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Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

justabubba said:
forgot tigger; no qualification required for a SCOTUS appointment
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I am aware of that; which is one of the things that makes me even less respectful of the members of the SCOTUS
 
Northern Light said:
In order for the WY bill to have teeth it would have to be enforced by the People. If WY arrests Feds then the Feds will arrest WY politicians and officials. The People would then have to take action. How likely is that?
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In Wyoming.....where the majority of the populations has more than one gun? Are big on the Second Amendment. I would say the odds are in favor.
 
Northern Light said:
In order for the WY bill to have teeth it would have to be enforced by the People. If WY arrests Feds then the Feds will arrest WY politicians and officials. The People would then have to take action. How likely is that?
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Just a thought, but I would say that there are more state officials in Wyoming than there are federal officials. Should Obama do something as foolish as to call in the National Guard to preside over enforcement of an EO rather than a passed law---well lets just say, it wont end well for either side in my opinion.
 
Northern Light said:
In order for the WY bill to have teeth it would have to be enforced by the People. If WY arrests Feds then the Feds will arrest WY politicians and officials. The People would then have to take action. How likely is that?
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Quite likely.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Just a thought, but I would say that there are more state officials in Wyoming than there are federal officials. Should Obama do something as foolish as to call in the National Guard to preside over enforcement of an EO rather than a passed law---well lets just say, it wont end well for either side in my opinion.
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True, but that would pretty much expose the Obama administration, turning guns on citizens for asserting Wyoming's rights would be a dick move that could wake up a lot of people on the fence.
 
MMC said:
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As the Obama administration plots various assaults on gun rights by “executive order” and legislation, proposals described as “very extreme” even by some Democrats, state lawmakers in Wyoming have another idea. Republican legislators are rallying behind nullification legislation that would void unconstitutional infringements on the right to keep and bear arms, even providing prison time for any federal agents who may try to enforce Washington, D.C., gun control in the state. Lawmakers expect it to pass.

The new bill, H.B. 0104 or the “Firearms Protection Act,” would nullify any new federal infringements on the constitutionally protected gun rights of state residents — who enjoy some of the lowest crime rates while being among the most heavily armed people in America. Unconstitutional federal gun registration schemes, as well as restrictions on semi-automatic guns or standard-capacity magazines, would also be nullified under the legislation.

There are teeth in the proposed law too: Any federal official attempting to enforce unconstitutional statutes or decrees infringing on gun rights passed after January 1 of this year would be charged with a felony. If convicted, criminal officials would be punished by up to five years in state prison and a $5,000 fine. The legislation also authorizes the state attorney general to defend citizens of Wyoming if federal authorities seek prosecutions under unconstitutional gun control rules.


Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds

Alright Wyoming.
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They say the Fed tries and takes their Rights.....it will be a crime. Already they have Police Chiefs and Sherriffs are already working on Strategies to protect gun rights in their jurisdiction. They are wasting no time with this State Legislation.
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Wow, what one whole day before some states step up to oppose Obama and his executive orders.
 
Funny how these states did not oppose Bush's many executive orders, many who were far far more reaching than what Obama has done.
 
PeteEU said:
Funny how these states did not oppose Bush's many executive orders, many who were far far more reaching than what Obama has done.
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That doesnt get a pass. Why dont you post one that does so?
 
OpportunityCost said:
That doesnt get a pass. Why dont you post one that does so?
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Of course it does pass.. you just wont admit it. Jon Steward had a great segment last night about it, and a great segment on gun control issue on Monday (or was it Tuesday).... the GOP are hypocrites and largely at fault for the lack of control the gun industry has. You have to go through more hoops to get a freaking drivers license than to get a semi-automatic machine gun... and that is one ****ing twisted world.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Scaring Away Elephants

In the middle of the night a gentleman stood on the top of his house singing to the top of his lungs and tearing up a newspaper into tiny pieces and throwing them about.
When the police arrived, they asked him why he was doing all that, he replied," I am keeping the tigers away."
The officer pointed out that there were no tigers in the area.
"I know. I am doing a great job keeping us safe," replied the gentleman.
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and thank jebus for a concerned citizenry and no tigers
 
PeteEU said:
Of course it does pass.. you just wont admit it. Jon Steward had a great segment last night about it, and a great segment on gun control issue on Monday (or was it Tuesday).... the GOP are hypocrites and largely at fault for the lack of control the gun industry has. You have to go through more hoops to get a freaking drivers license than to get a semi-automatic machine gun... and that is one ****ing twisted world.
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Thats not what you said. What you said was :
Originally Posted by PeteEU
Funny how these states did not oppose Bush's many executive orders, many who were far far more reaching than what Obama has done.
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So give an example or quit bleating.

Or just admit you dont know what you are talking about. Either is fine.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Thats not what you said. What you said was :


So give an example or quit bleating.

Or just admit you dont know what you are talking about. Either is fine.
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So you expect me to show a secret executive order issued by the Bush administration? ...
 
Insanity definitely encourages insanity. Maybe if people actually took the time to READ what the executive orders are, instead of letting the republican pundits pour misinformation into your head, we could solve this gun registration issue and get military weapons off the streets.
 
MMC said:
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As the Obama administration plots various assaults on gun rights by “executive order” and legislation, proposals described as “very extreme” even by some Democrats, state lawmakers in Wyoming have another idea. Republican legislators are rallying behind nullification legislation that would void unconstitutional infringements on the right to keep and bear arms, even providing prison time for any federal agents who may try to enforce Washington, D.C., gun control in the state. Lawmakers expect it to pass.

The new bill, H.B. 0104 or the “Firearms Protection Act,” would nullify any new federal infringements on the constitutionally protected gun rights of state residents — who enjoy some of the lowest crime rates while being among the most heavily armed people in America. Unconstitutional federal gun registration schemes, as well as restrictions on semi-automatic guns or standard-capacity magazines, would also be nullified under the legislation.

There are teeth in the proposed law too: Any federal official attempting to enforce unconstitutional statutes or decrees infringing on gun rights passed after January 1 of this year would be charged with a felony. If convicted, criminal officials would be punished by up to five years in state prison and a $5,000 fine. The legislation also authorizes the state attorney general to defend citizens of Wyoming if federal authorities seek prosecutions under unconstitutional gun control rules.


Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds

Alright Wyoming.
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They say the Fed tries and takes their Rights.....it will be a crime. Already they have Police Chiefs and Sherriffs are already working on Strategies to protect gun rights in their jurisdiction. They are wasting no time with this State Legislation.
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This is pathetic. Jailing federal officials for doing their jobs? If anyone should be fighting back it's the victims of market induced class poverty.

Welcome to America: Where else can you be filthy rich, taxed sparingly and still unhappy?
 
Haha good luck with that you hillbilly ****tards. I love it when the gun nuts go ballistic over **** theyhavent even read. Im sure the courts will side with them!! :lamo
 
PeteEU said:
So you expect me to show a secret executive order issued by the Bush administration? ...
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Yes I expect you to PROVE what you are saying, or be dismissed as disinformation.
 
waas said:
This is pathetic. Jailing federal officials for doing their jobs? If anyone should be fighting back it's the victims of market induced class poverty.

Welcome to America: Where else can you be filthy rich, taxed sparingly and still unhappy?
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If they are trying to enforce executive orders that impinge upon constitutional rights, it oushes the idea that the Federal official gets to rot in jail during appeals rather than a law abiding citizen.

Executive orders are not law. Legislative action is law. Even then courts and states can pushback against legislation that they feel violates states rights and those of its citizens.
 
Muddy Creek said:
Insanity definitely encourages insanity. Maybe if people actually took the time to READ what the executive orders are, instead of letting the republican pundits pour misinformation into your head, we could solve this gun registration issue and get military weapons off the streets.
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Don't you get it, that's what's going on that Wyoming is fighting to nullify within their state.

Registration is a step before confiscation... Think about it, register all the guns and you build a list of addresses so you know where to go to confiscate.
 
Ikari said:
It's about time for a revolt. The federal government no longer fears the People nor does it respect the States. It must be taught its lesson again.
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This is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction! States do not have the authority to say what is constitutional or not. Thats is why we have a legal system and the SCOTUS. Your comment is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction. Just to be real frank about it you and the others who talk like this are going to do nothing. Thats right I said the right and the left that are making extreme statements about gun control and what they are going to do are nothing more than cowards. Your talk of revolt and the Government needs to fear it people does not impress or make anyone fear you. Honestly you are being laughed at.

What the President has done is put the isssue on the table. He signed orders by and large to re-enforce laws that were already past. Anything else would have to go through congress. Obama has done nothing more than what atleast two previous president wanted to do about assult weapons. Plus if you think your assult weapon is going to stop the nasty governemtent from taking you guns (which they are not) you have serious issues. You and the others who think the way you do probably do not need to have a gun let alone a keyboard. They big problem is once again we see the extremes of both parties shouting really loud and the thought that they think they are a majority of Americans is luaghable at best. The center of America will one day get this and start doing its job and leave the whacko's on both sides behind.
 
You conservatives and Libertarians need to look up what the constitution says:

You and your ilk politiians are just wasting time trying to make a point:

Federal preemption - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
According to the Supremacy Clause (Article VI, clause 2) of the United States Constitution,
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.
 
madman said:
You conservatives and Libertarians need to look up what the constitution says:

You and your ilk politiians are just wasting time trying to make a point:

Federal preemption - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
According to the Supremacy Clause (Article VI, clause 2) of the United States Constitution,
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.
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That's because the federal government is supposed to hold the minimum standards for laws and the states can add to those standards how they see fit...

That was NOT intended to mean that the federal government is supreme over the states... If it was, than why even have states?? Why not just have a central federal government?
 
BmanMcfly said:
That's because the federal government is supposed to hold the minimum standards for laws and the states can add to those standards how they see fit...

That was NOT intended to mean that the federal government is supreme over the states... If it was, than why even have states?? Why not just have a central federal government?
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The statists are getting desperate. Their words are falling on deaf ears, they've pushed too hard and too far, so now they are trying to interpret the old standby of "the supremacy clause". The big problem they face is that the battles they've picked are big enough that the states are finally holding them to the enumerated powers half of it.
 
Has anyone heard any updated news out of Wyoming? Are they still pushing this thru their legislature? Any word from any of their National Politicians since the release of this OP?
 
MMC said:
Has anyone heard any updated news out of Wyoming? Are they still pushing this thru their legislature? Any word from any of their National Politicians since the release of this OP?
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Many officials from Oregon to Mississippi are voicing their opposition.
Put this in your search engine for various links.

Sheriff's responding to gun control legislation
 
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