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Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard

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Exactly what do you think a semi-automatic is?

I know exactly what it is. And, no I don't think it is an automatic. You have a round shot each time you pull the trigger. Cre you expecting a fire fight?
 
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Are you expecting a fire fight?

That comment makes no sense. Nor does this one...

I simply don't believe owning semiautomatics save you from criminals.

Are you claiming nobody needs more than a single shot firearm to protect themselves from the criminal element?
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns

That's just it, objective and subjective are not opinions.

Seems as though you may be speaking of your own posting here...

I guns is a general term.

Good grief man, what does this sentence mean? I guns? what is that?

I won't say any lawful citizen can't own a gun.

Good, because although you can voice that opinion if you wish, ownership of a gun is a right, and not up to you to decide.

I will accept that they can restrict them from having them at school, no automatics or semi automatics and such.

The places that these tragedies occurred were already "gun free zones".... so the "restrictions" were already in place. Did it prevent the tragedy?

I accept for teachers the same limitations as everyone else.

So the answer is "no"..... You wouldn't set the example, but you would tell others what they should do....

Your question still doesn't make sense to me. Where ave I argued banning all guns? Where is that been proposed and face a real vote?

You've already answered weather you realize it or not....
 
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That comment makes no sense. Nor does this one...



Are you claiming nobody needs more than a single shot firearm to protect themselves from the criminal element?

Rarely if ever. And we don't shoot them very often. Stats show that. Nor does it take too longer to chamber another one. Do absent a firefight, not really needed.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns

Seems as though you may be speaking of your own posting here...



Good grief man, what does this sentence mean? I guns? what is that?



Good, because although you can voice that opinion if you wish, ownership of a gun is a right, and not up to you to decide.



The places that these tragedies occurred were already "gun free zones".... so the "restrictions" were already in place. Did it prevent the tragedy?



So the answer is "no"..... You wouldn't set the example, but you would tell others what they should do....



You've already answered weather you realize it or not....

You were general with the term guns, all inclusive. No legislation or executive order calls for all guns. Despite the typo, you should have seen that by reading on.

Nor does it matter concerning gun free zones. Never try present any restriction as solving all possible problems. It's a mistake your side makes often.

And you answer is "no" comment makes no sense. Anything I ask of others I already do, and more. I don't own a gun. Have never, ever needed one.

Whether you think you see an answer or not is irrelevant, especially as you seem to have something wrong again.
 
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You were general with the term guns, all inclusive.

Oh, so you didn't know what we were discussing here?

No legislation or executive order calls for all guns. Despite the typo, you should have seen that by reading on.

Oh I did, but your "typo" problem seems to be getting worse as time goes on. Maybe you should proof read before you hit the send button.

Nor does it matter concerning gun free zones. Never try present any restriction as solving all possible problems. It's a mistake your side makes often.

It does matter concerning "gun free zones" or as I like to call them "crazy people shooting galleries"... 23 EO's Joe, 23. If they are not about solving any of the perceived problems, if any exist that haven't already been addressed, then why waste the breath?

And you answer is "no" comment makes no sense. Anything I ask of others I already do, and more. I don't own a gun. Have never, ever needed one.

So you don't own a gun, well rudy poo for you. Then don't tell me what I should own, k?

Whether you think you see an answer or not is irrelevant, especially as you seem to have something wrong again.

Typical progressive baiting...Not even worthy of a direct response. Move along Joe, your words have meanings. Live with it.
 
Yes, criminals break laws. But we do still have laws and restrictions all the same.

Yes, but this is a law that will give a definitive advantage to the criminal elements in society who we both accept will not follow these laws.

So, unless you have a means to get guns out of the hands of criminals BEFORE disarming everyone else, well, you are making a vote that is PRO-VIOLENT CRIME.


And I simply don't believe owning semiautomatics save you from criminals.

No, it's not going to necessarily save you... All it does is INCREASE THE ODDS that an encounter with a criminal will work out favorably.

The fact is that most of the time self-defense with a gun happens without even firing a shot. Then, most of the time when a shot is fired it is a "warning shot", and then when the criminal is hit, most of the time the criminal lives to face charges.


I think is you pull back on the emotion a little bit you'll realize you can still own a weapon,

Ya, in your mind that should only be a single shot musket or pump shotgun...

You never did answer my question before: how many Swiss Jews died in the holocaust, and why?

Why did Japan not attempt an invasion of the us after pearl harbor??

and that with or without one being smart will always be more important.

Why not just go the next step and say that women that get raped were stupid for wearing those clothes or going to the wrong areas??

Blaming victims of crime is an antithesis of justice, and if you keep going down the line of thinking you've presented you'd come up with this yourself.
 
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Oh, so you didn't know what we were discussing here?



Oh I did, but your "typo" problem seems to be getting worse as time goes on. Maybe you should proof read before you hit the send button.



It does matter concerning "gun free zones" or as I like to call them "crazy people shooting galleries"... 23 EO's Joe, 23. If they are not about solving any of the perceived problems, if any exist that haven't already been addressed, then why waste the breath?



So you don't own a gun, well rudy poo for you. Then don't tell me what I should own, k?



Typical progressive baiting...Not even worthy of a direct response. Move along Joe, your words have meanings. Live with it.

I know what I'm talking about. And yes, I have some trouble with the iPad and finger typing on it. I can live with it.

As for the 23, things having the CDC do a study might actually give us better information. As for doing something, I didn't say they did nothing. I said they didn't solve all problems. Two different things. Take for example a locked door. Any crook worth the title isn't even slowed by a locked door, but you still lock it? Why? When you answer that for yourself you may see my point.

Also, I've never told you shouldn't own a gun. I may suggest that it's possible you put too much faith in it. But I never sad you can't own one.

And once more, when you get something wrong, telling you about it is not baiting.
 
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Yes, but this is a law that will give a definitive advantage to the criminal elements in society who we both accept will not follow these laws.
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So, unless you have a means to get guns out of the hands of criminals BEFORE disarming everyone else, well, you are making a vote that is PRO-VIOLENT CRIME.




No, it's not going to necessarily save you... All it does is INCREASE THE ODDS that an encounter with a criminal will work out favorably.

The fact is that most of the time self-defense with a gun happens without even firing a shot. Then, most of the time when a shot is fired it is a "warning shot", and then when the criminal is hit, most of the time the criminal lives to face charges.




Ya, in your mind that should only be a single shot musket or pump shotgun...

You never did answer my question before: how many Swiss Jews died in the holocaust, and why?

Why did Japan not attempt an invasion of the us after pearl harbor??



Why not just go the next step and say that women that get raped were stupid for wearing those clothes or going to the wrong areas??

Blaming victims of crime is an antithesis of justice, and if you keep going down the line of thinking you've presented you'd come up with this yourself.

Increase the odds? Well, statistically, which speaks to the odds, you won't shoot a criminal. You'll shoot yourself or a friend o family member, or someone in your home will. So, the odds are better for you if you don't have one. You're free to have one, and maybe beat the odds. But you brought up the odds.

As for the holo holocaust and such, I'm not sure how to get across your mistaken impression. You have so much Wong. Normal Jewish citizens cod not have with stood the Germany army. And there was no real way Japan could have attacked us on our soil here in the states. How do I address the koolaid drinking your throwing out?

and your rape thing s just silly. I suggest nothing of the kind.
 
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Rarely if ever. And we don't shoot them very often. Stats show that. Nor does it take too longer to chamber another one. Do absent a firefight, not really needed.

Is english a second language for you?
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Is english a second language for you?

Even with the typo (do=so), it's not hard to follow, especially if you know anything about the objective numbers used in gun debates.
 
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Even with the typo (do=so), it's not hard to follow, especially if you know anything about the objective numbers used in gun debates.

There is nothing objective in you making idiotic claims about knowing what a person needs for self-defense in any possible situation.
 
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There is nothing objective in you making idiotic claims about knowing what a person needs for self-defense in any possible situation.

Doesn't what you need depend on what you're doing. In a fire fight you need a lot. At home, a good dog.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns

I know what I'm talking about. And yes, I have some trouble with the iPad and finger typing on it. I can live with it.

As for the 23, things having the CDC do a study might actually give us better information. As for doing something, I didn't say they did nothing. I said they didn't solve all problems. Two different things. Take for example a locked door. Any crook worth the title isn't even slowed by a locked door, but you still lock it? Why? When you answer that for yourself you may see my point.

Also, I've never told you shouldn't own a gun. I may suggest that it's possible you put too much faith in it. But I never sad you can't own one.

And once more, when you get something wrong, telling you about it is not baiting.

Well, I have to give it to ya boo, you sure are one arrogant sob....But, although you may be able to live with your constant typo, and mis arranged sentence structure, I think you do on purpose so that it becomes just another tool for you to dishonestly claim that people debating you don't understand your simplistic blather. As for my locked doors at night, I don't post a sign on the lawn that invites criminals in either, do you? No, you haven't been so bold as to come out and say that I shouldn't own a gun, but you have made it clear that you think that people that do are somehow flawed in their thinking, and less um, intelligent than yourself, to that I say blow it out your ..... When I get something wrong? Or when you disagree....
 
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Doesn't what you need depend on what you're doing. In a fire fight you need a lot. At home, a good dog.

A dog may be your choice, but I have one of those too...and I have several weapons that ensure that should you kill my dog, I will make sure you see the business end of a 12 gauge pump...You can do for yourself anything you wish, but we would thank you to leave our decisions on protection to us....
 
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Well, I have to give it to ya boo, you sure are one arrogant sob....But, although you may be able to live with your constant typo, and mis arranged sentence structure, I think you do on purpose so that it becomes just another tool for you to dishonestly claim that people debating you don't understand your simplistic blather. As for my locked doors at night, I don't post a sign on the lawn that invites criminals in either, do you? No, you haven't been so bold as to come out and say that I shouldn't own a gun, but you have made it clear that you think that people that do are somehow flawed in their thinking, and less um, intelligent than yourself, to that I say blow it out your ..... When I get something wrong? Or when you disagree....

J that makes no sense.

And if I thought you shouldn't own one I would say so. I think real arrogance is when you think you can tell others what they really mean. It also isn't intelligence. I merely think many on your sure fear the world too much.

Your last two sentences I assume refers to me pointing out you got it wrong again. You did, and your unwillingness to want to get it right is not my fault.
 
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A dog may be your choice, but I have one of those too...and I have several weapons that ensure that should you kill my dog, I will make sure you see the business end of a 12 gauge pump...You can do for yourself anything you wish, but we would thank you to leave our decisions on protection to us....

Stats say they won't even approach your place with the dog.

It's just a statistical observation. I noted there s nothing preventing you from having a gun. And I'm fine with that.
 
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Doesn't what you need depend on what you're doing. In a fire fight you need a lot. At home, a good dog.

Luckily, what I need doesn't depend on your opinion at all. Like the stupidass opinion that as long as you are sitting at home minding your own business, trouble won't come looking for you. You can choose to be as unprepared as you'd like. You don't get to choose for anyone else.
 
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Luckily, what I need doesn't depend on your opinion at all. Like the stupidass opinion that as long as you are sitting at home minding your own business, trouble won't come looking for you. You can choose to be as unprepared as you'd like. You don't get to choose for anyone else.

Didn't say anything about opinion. There are likely objective measures. Living in fear is not really my way.
 
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Didn't say anything about opinion. There are likely objective measures. Living in fear is not really my way.

Fear? Another pantload of nonsense. I carry a spare tire for my truck, not because I fear a flat tire, but to be prepared for that eventuality. I carry jumper cables, not because I fear a dead battery, but to have the resources I need to deal with that problem. I can keep going, but even a dullard should be able to get the point I'm making.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Fear? Another pantload of nonsense. I carry a spare tire for my truck, not because I fear a flat tire, but to be prepared for that eventuality. I carry jumper cables, not because I fear a dead battery, but to have the resources I need to deal with that problem. I can keep going, but even a dullard should be able to get the point I'm making.
Not quite the same thing. To be equal, you'd have to carry 20 spares. It's the overkill, the excessive need that suggests fear, not reasonable preparedness.
 
Increase the odds? Well, statistically, which speaks to the odds, you won't shoot a criminal. You'll shoot yourself or a friend o family member, or someone in your home will.

So, the odds are better for you if you don't have one. You're free to have one, and maybe beat the odds. But you brought up the odds.

I'm sorry, but this is simply not the case...

Although I am curious how you came to this glaringly false belief?

As for the holo holocaust and such, I'm not sure how to get across your mistaken impression. You have so much Wong. Normal Jewish citizens cod not have with stood the Germany army.

No, the question was how many Swiss Jews died in the holocaust... The answer is 0. The nazis did not dare invade switzerland because the population was so well armed.

And there was no real way Japan could have attacked us on our soil here in the states. How do I address the koolaid drinking your throwing out?

Not quite, they did not dare invade because there would be a "rifle behind every blade of grass.".

and your rape thing s just silly. I suggest nothing of the kind.

That's what I said, but you're using the same type of mentality... You are using the victims and saying you should act due to bad examples when there are as many or more GOOD examples of responsible gun owners that protected themselves or their children because of their capacity to carry semiauto firearms.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

I'm sorry, but this is simply not the case...

Although I am curious how you came to this glaringly false belief?



No, the question was how many Swiss Jews died in the holocaust... The answer is 0. The nazis did not dare invade switzerland because the population was so well armed.



Not quite, they did not dare invade because there would be a "rifle behind every blade of grass.".



That's what I said, but you're using the same type of mentality... You are using the victims and saying you should act due to bad examples when there are as many or more GOOD examples of responsible gun owners that protected themselves or their children because of their capacity to carry semiauto firearms.

Most everyone is familiar with basic gun statistics. If you need me too google them for you I can when I get to the computer.

And, no, you're making a huge leap concerning the Swiss, as you did the Japanese. You must really have bought into the propaganda.

And no, the rape thing has nothing to do with my reasoning at all. It's a dodge on your part,and an unoriginal one at that.
 
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Well, statistically, which speaks to the odds, you won't shoot a criminal. You'll shoot yourself or a friend o family member, or someone in your home will. So, the odds are better for you if you don't have one.

FAIL. You are quoting a widely discredited case study proven over and over to be false.
 
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