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Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard

Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Right wing rant? You ain't seen my right wing rant. No such thing here. I agree with most everything you've said in the restrictions department. So. What are we arguing about?

Was wondering that myself, still wonder what automatic weapons you are talking about. (Yes I have seen several of your right wing rants, as right wing rants go they are pretty good)
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Whose going to take us to jail? Law Enforcement...the Military.... I think you will find we are some of the biggest supporters of gun rights and probably own a good portion of the guns.
I feel pretty confident that the military will shut down any attempt at a revolution pretty quickly.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

To quote VP Biden, "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."

I suspect that banning alcohol, is also on his EO agenda.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Its not the Conservatives whor'e are using the blood of 20 dead Children to push through gun legislation.

Cons dont do disgusting tasteless classless things like that.

From Obama's first speech it was politicized and the left keeps on trucking.

Ya need to read better- right wing ranters are dancing around the fact 20 children without all their permanent teeth were gunned down at one time along with a half dozen of their teachers.

This isn't drug dealers or bangers shooting each other, this was 20 1st graders gunned down.

No the 'cons' disgusting acts are to call those truly outraged, saddened and wondering if it could happen to their own kids, whores.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Doesn't matter. The size of government firepower has no bearing on our right to own and bear. We don't have a right, merely in order to assist the government in its time of need. It is an individual, not collective, right.

And yes, people who misuse them (called criminals) are much more likely to assault a fellow citizen than a large government. Pretty much makes sense.

The point of the SA was not for citizens to defend themselves from other citizens, but to provide a well regulated militia to defend against tyranny. If the argument has instead become that we need guns because other people can't control themselves, then that seems like an invitation for the expansion of more government laws to control people.

I mean, if you need a gun because someone else might have a gun, then that could really be making a case for limiting the number of guns in society, not increasing them. Yes criminals will gain access to them anyway, but it follows logically that destroying as many guns as possible would limit their supply even to criminals. (I am pro-second amendment but I'm just playing devil's advocate here.)

We should instead continue the argument that guns are necessary for a healthy democracy to exercise proper control over government when necessary. Saying that you need a gun because of potential home invaders is just inviting nanny government to come up with more controlling solutions.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Obama had better be mighty careful with that... there's a lot of us who will flat refuse to obey an Executive Order than violates the Constitution.

Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping he doesn't do something ill-considered that provokes something drastic... but that EO could easily create tens of thousands of Tim McVeigh's ready to declare armed revolt.

I very very sincerely hope it does not come to that, but I will admit I'm beginning to worry.

No one in this country will do anything. We are a nation of wimps now. Half of the people who we think would stand up to this are on the gov't dime anyway. They won't bite the hand that feeds them. The other quarter are too rich to want to make any waves for fear of losing their fortune. That leaves a few middle class people who are too worried about their rising taxes, lower house value, and family of 4 to get involved in some crap like this. There could be an outlier here or there but I doubt any sort of mass revolt will happen. It will be a few guys with big beards and signs standing in the front of the White House and that's about it.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

The point of the SA was not for citizens to defend themselves from other citizens, but to provide a well regulated militia to defend against tyranny. If the argument has instead become that we need guns because other people can't control themselves, then that seems like an invitation for the expansion of more government laws to control people.

It was, in part, based on English Common Law and the English Declaration of Rights, which did indeed guarantee the right to self-defense.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Ya need to read better- right wing ranters are dancing around the fact 20 children without all their permanent teeth were gunned down at one time along with a half dozen of their teachers.

This isn't drug dealers or bangers shooting each other, this was 20 1st graders gunned down.

No the 'cons' disgusting acts are to call those truly outraged, saddened and wondering if it could happen to their own kids, whores.

Oh shut up. You people were salivating when the body count started coming in, hooting and hollering like your Hockey team just one the Stanley Cup.

Same thing with Giffords and your low life implicit charges of right wing complicity.

Look, your'e still doing it, you can't help your self because apparently you were raised by animals that never taught you the fundamentals of being a human being.

Did you ever wonder why George Stephanopoulos quit counting dead soldiers ? Or why the media quit following around an old hag who used her sons death to gain TV time ??

It's because you guys dont give a rats-ass about any dead soldier, dead diplomat or victims of a foreign war or dead Children and your'e sick enough to offer up insincere "heartfelt" arguments right up until the time when those "pawns" stop pushing the narrative your'e supporting.

Because to you, to every liberal who I actually think suffers from a profound mental disorder , dead soldiers and dead children are just game pieces for you.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Interesting, so not only are you jumping to conclusions, you are unqualified to judge based on the law itself. Well done!

want to play that game with me?
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

I feel pretty confident that the military will shut down any attempt at a revolution pretty quickly.


they won't be able to save the politicians who cause it nor will they be able to save those who called for the gun bans that start it

most of us aren't going to fight the military. its those who give the orders to round up gun owners we will target

and those who support such order givers
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Ya need to read better- right wing ranters are dancing around the fact 20 children without all their permanent teeth were gunned down at one time along with a half dozen of their teachers.

This isn't drug dealers or bangers shooting each other, this was 20 1st graders gunned down.

No the 'cons' disgusting acts are to call those truly outraged, saddened and wondering if it could happen to their own kids, whores.

gun haters are the ones who saw this massacre as a benefit

not gun owners
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

gun haters are the ones who saw this massacre as a benefit

not gun owners

You do realize, merely by overreacting, you're not really different. Frankly gun folks have been every bit as badminton if not worse.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

You do realize, merely by overreacting, you're not really different. Frankly gun folks have been every bit as badminton if not worse.

the only over reaction were gun haters who have been trying to rape our rights and got a massacre to help

your silly comment about gun owners is expected and wrong
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Oh shut up. You people were salivating when the body count started coming in, hooting and hollering like your Hockey team just one the Stanley Cup.

Same thing with Giffords and your low life implicit charges of right wing complicity.

Look, your'e still doing it, you can't help your self because apparently you were raised by animals that never taught you the fundamentals of being a human being.

Did you ever wonder why George Stephanopoulos quit counting dead soldiers ? Or why the media quit following around an old hag who used her sons death to gain TV time ??

It's because you guys dont give a rats-ass about any dead soldier, dead diplomat or victims of a foreign war or dead Children and your'e sick enough to offer up insincere "heartfelt" arguments right up until the time when those "pawns" stop pushing the narrative your'e supporting.

Because to you, to every liberal who I actually think suffers from a profound mental disorder , dead soldiers and dead children are just game pieces for you.

'You people' just which you people you mean? Parent, grandparent, firearm owner, combat vet? I am a lot of 'you people'.

That some are shocked, outraged, saddened and want to do more than just listen to the NRA mouthpieces mutter the same old tired lines seems to really tweek the radical right ranters.

I was raised by ardent conservatives and taught quite a few manners, I pushed a great deal of Ft. Dix lower until I got it through my head Sir is no sign of respect to an NCO.

George still honors our dead at the end of every Sunday show, i reckon the body count stopped when we got out of Iraq, but tell me what combat deaths have to do with small children dying in their classroom along with 6 of their teachers?

Seems the right wing ranters can do little more than deflect and attempt to equal war with the first Grade.

It is the more vulgar elements of the right wing who wants to equate drug dealer deaths with children, wants to equate soldiers with children.

I was tested in the military, no profound disorder just a tendency toward quick violence, but hey that was part of my job description... :peace
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

the only over reaction were gun haters who have been trying to rape our rights and got a massacre to help

your silly comment about gun owners is expected and wrong

No, it is spot on.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

No, it is spot on.

we should take a poll of those who actually understand gun issues. its gun haters who need the blood of innocents to advance their sick agenda
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

we should take a poll of those who actually understand gun issues. its gun haters who need the blood of innocents to advance their sick agenda

You might find people on both sides who do and don't, but that has nothing to do with I said.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

gun haters are the ones who saw this massacre as a benefit

not gun owners

No Turtle, no one sees the death of 20 schoolkids who don't have all their permanent teeth as a benefit. It is a very sick and outrageous position to hold, but it is you after all. :roll:

those who are tired of the same tired old crap from NRA mouthpieces are done with just sitting and watching, what you and a few others don't grasp that this isn't just the 'usual suspects' in Washington.

rant all you want about raping rights and grabbing guns, we both know neither will happen. Justice Scalia has already tipped his hand, restricting the 2nd amendment isn't unconstitutional. no one will take any weapon away from any citizen who is legal to own such a weapon, so can the overhype.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns

Let's replace two words...

[Bush] considering "executive order" to deal with [gay marriage]

Holy crap...liberals would stampede over newborns to get to those picket lines.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

No Turtle, no one sees the death of 20 schoolkids who don't have all their permanent teeth as a benefit. It is a very sick and outrageous position to hold, but it is you after all. :roll:

those who are tired of the same tired old crap from NRA mouthpieces are done with just sitting and watching, what you and a few others don't grasp that this isn't just the 'usual suspects' in Washington.

rant all you want about raping rights and grabbing guns, we both know neither will happen. Justice Scalia has already tipped his hand, restricting the 2nd amendment isn't unconstitutional. no one will take any weapon away from any citizen who is legal to own such a weapon, so can the overhype.

who benefited from the massacre in scotland in 1997. the Brits who legally owned handguns that were then all confiscated, or the gun haters

you sure seem to put a lot of faith in Scalia and DICTA

and people like you clearly prove you hate the NRA more than the assholes like Lanza

The NRA is a roadblock to the sort of government people like you want'

Lanza provides fuel for getting the laws you want
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Let's replace two words...

[Bush] considering "executive order" to deal with [gay marriage]

Holy crap...liberals would stampede over newborns to get to those picket lines.

and while I think gays ought to be able to marry lets say it was an order banning sodomy (gay sex I suspect has killed far more people through AIDS than legally owned "assault weapons")
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

and while I think gays ought to be able to marry lets say it was an order banning sodomy (gay sex I suspect has killed far more people through AIDS than legally owned "assault weapons")
AIDS isn't only contracted from the ghey pokey-pokey. Go to your nearest government facility for re-education, mister.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

who benefited from the massacre in scotland in 1997. the Brits who legally owned handguns that were then all confiscated, or the gun haters

you sure seem to put a lot of faith in Scalia and DICTA

and people like you clearly prove you hate the NRA more than the assholes like Lanza

The NRA is a roadblock to the sort of government people like you want'

Lanza provides fuel for getting the laws you want

That you use the word benefit in this at all shows me your mind is too far gone to be objective. :roll:

No benefit, just sick and tired of murder. NEVER said complete confiscation is the answer, and neither of us believes that will be the result here.

I am a member of the NRA- SURPRISE MOUTHPIECE I R WON! :2wave:

Mostly to compete in F-TR and be able to sign mail in targets for people.

I put a great deal of faith in the intellectual anchor of the conservative wing of the Supreme Court declaring the 2nd amendment like all other amendments isn't unlimited. The 2nd amendment can be restricted-so much for the 'what part of uninfringed don't you understand' rant :)

The NRA is everything bad so-called 'conservatives' can't stand in the Gubmint. Taking in huge amounts of money, maintaining a very nice presence in DC, buying some of the best 'consultants' member money can buy, and accomplishing so little using so much and taking forever to do anything.

The NRA is a self serving, self promoting, money pit. Don't take my word for it, ask many ardent 2nd A supporters here, they think the NRA is a sellout bunch more interested in members donating than pushing for a real defining line on this whole firearms ownership mess.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

Biden: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard

Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard



That's if the other ten or so anti-gun bills don't pass obama will make an executive order...

Just a note, this would have been called "conspiracy theory" just a year ago.

The gall..... There would be an absolute uproar.
 
Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

AIDS isn't only contracted from the ghey pokey-pokey. Go to your nearest government facility for re-education, mister.

No it is not. But it is 63% of all new cases (that is if you believe the CDC).
 
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