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Job growth cools slightly, recovery grinds on [W:225]

Job - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

"Definition of JOB
1
a : a piece of work; especially : a small miscellaneous piece of work undertaken on order at a stated rate
b : the object or material on which work is being done
c : something produced by or as if by work <did a nice job>
d : an example of a usually specified type : item <the limousine was a long white job>
2
a : something done for private advantage <the whole incident was a put-up job>
b : a criminal enterprise; specifically : robbery
c : a damaging or destructive bit of work <did a job on him>
3
a (1) : something that has to be done : task (2) : an undertaking requiring unusual exertion <it was a real job to talk over that noise>
b : a specific duty, role, or function
c : a regular remunerative position
d chiefly British : state of affairs —usually used with bad or good <it was a good job you didn't hit the old man — E. L. Thomas>
4
: plastic surgery for cosmetic purposes <a nose job>
— on the job
: at work
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Examples of JOB

He took a job as a waiter.
She has a high-paying job on Wall Street.
She's trying to get a job in New York.
The new factory will create thousands of jobs.
They offered him the job but he turned it down.
The blood's job is to carry oxygen to the different parts of the body.
Construction of the bridge turned out to be a bigger job than they had expected.
It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it."


Somebody forgot to tell the dictionary people that only the Bureau of Labor Statistics decides what is or is not a job because they left them completely out of the definition.....

I'm sorry are you really suggesting that when counting jobs in an economy all those definitions in the dictionary entry are applicable? Like, nose jobs?

From 1984 to 1994 military were included in total employed (from the current population survey) but all that did was raise the employment level and lower the UE rate on a consistant basis. Military are excluded because they're not part of the labor market...there's no freedom of entry/exit and numbers are not determined by market factors.
 
Whete does the money come from?

The same place the government comes from... so does the government actually exist then?
 
Then the government should hire 80 million employees and the problem would be solved.

The real jobs numbers: 41% of America unemployed, 1 in 3 doesn't want work at all — RT

Ok, so we have an Adult Civilian population of 244,350,000
143,305,000 are working
12,206,000 are looking for work
82,089,000 don't want to work (mostly disabled, retirees, full time students, and stay home spouses)
6,750,000 say they want to work but aren't currently looking...about half of whom haven't looked for a job in over a year (which makes their claim a little questionable) and of those who have looked in the last year, about 20% say they couldn't take a job if offered and about 47% quit looking for personal reasons, are now available, but haven't started looking yet.

It's ridiculous to consider all those as "unemployed." You might as well start including 4 year olds.
 
So people in the military do not have jobs, Dr. Watson?

Yes Sherlock, they do. But military jobs, unlike private sector jobs, are funded by tax payer contributions. So actually the military, as well as all government jobs, create budget deficit spending. Not that the Obama administration or Harry Reid has bothered with a budget. Just spend, spend, spend...

So let's create jobs that slow the growth of the US economy; and that's what the Obama administration has done. (In addition to the billions in entitlement spending they dish out.)

This is the result of "spreading the wealth." Take from the givers and give to the takers.
 
It has to steal money from the private sector to pay for these jobs. Robbing from Peter to pay Paul. The opportunity costs and negative externalities associated with this are astronomical.

It's called Economics
 
It is a jobless recovery. I am not sure there is anything else the government could do, so it needs to stop making it worse IMHO for the recovery side in the name of the non-existent job growth side.

Then it's not a recovery. There are plenty of things the government can do, they can stop making it so difficult on the people who actually create jobs, stop taxing the crap out of small businesses, etc. But no, Obama really doesn't give a damn about recovery.
 
Ok, so we have an Adult Civilian population of 244,350,000
143,305,000 are working
12,206,000 are looking for work
82,089,000 don't want to work (mostly disabled, retirees, full time students, and stay home spouses)
6,750,000 say they want to work but aren't currently looking...about half of whom haven't looked for a job in over a year (which makes their claim a little questionable) and of those who have looked in the last year, about 20% say they couldn't take a job if offered and about 47% quit looking for personal reasons, are now available, but haven't started looking yet.

It's ridiculous to consider all those as "unemployed." You might as well start including 4 year olds.

But of course they are unemployed. That's a fact.
 
But of course they are unemployed. That's a fact.

No, it' s not a fact. Calling everyone who isn't working "unemployed" is a useless definition that no economist has ever used.
 
No, it' s not a fact. Calling everyone who isn't working "unemployed" is a useless definition that no economist has ever used.

There are people who are employed and people who are unemployed. It is important to understand the distinction between the two before we break them down into different groups and categories. The reason for that is because when one gets too high and the other gets too low then the entire economy could be in jeopardy.
 
recovery is still slow and exceptionally delicate. we aren't out of the woods yet.

Recovery? What recovery?

Do you all realize that the employment to population ratio went down again? In fact, even though the unemployment rate is 0.7% lower in December 2012 compared to December of 2011, the EP ratio is exactly the same?

That means that the percentage of eligible American workers who have jobs hasn't changed in the last year. You call that a recovery?

You all asked for it, now you're going to get it... Obamanomics.
 
Recovery? What recovery?

Do you all realize that the employment to population ratio went down again? In fact, even though the unemployment rate is 0.7% lower in December 2012 compared to December of 2011, the EP ratio is exactly the same?

That means that the percentage of eligible American workers who have jobs hasn't changed in the last year. You call that a recovery?

You all asked for it, now you're going to get it... Obamanomics.
When Obama was sworn in as president we were losing 800,000 jobs per month and that was with th Bush tax cuts in place.
 
Obama's economic team predicted we'd be at 5.2% unemplyment right now if we passed his failed stimulus.

Sounds like CBO predictions...
 
When Obama was sworn in as president we were losing 800,000 jobs per month and that was with th Bush tax cuts in place.

Bill Clinton started all this mess with his stupid CRA amendments.

This is what happens when you force banks to make credit a "right."

Anyone watch TV in the 90's or early 2000's? "no money down, no money down, no money down" and "declare bankruptcy and we will settle for pennies on the dollar (which I see over and over again when I watch TV late at night)."

The idiots in society who thought "free credit" ripped off society and our economy in the process.

Of course these are the same people who want pitty now that they ripped off everyone and are now playing victims via the aid of Bill Clinton.

I suppose we can blame republicans too for "compromising" with Clinton in the first place and passing this nonsense CRA BS.

Our present economy is exactly why you don't compromise with democrats
 
When Obama was sworn in as president we were losing 800,000 jobs per month and that was with th Bush tax cuts in place.

Stop making excuses Pete... What I stated is a FACT, which you obviously can't address,
 
Stop making excuses Pete... What I stated is a FACT, which you obviously can't address,
I'm not making excuses, I'm just stating FACTS. Excuses are not needed, just read my sig. LMMFAO.Besides, we arent a socialist country, it not the president job to create jobs. we are a capitalist country.
 
I'm not making excuses, I'm just stating FACTS. Excuses are not needed, just read my sig. LMMFAO.Besides, we arent a socialist country, it not the president job to create jobs. we are a capitalist country.

It certainly isn't Obama's job... lmao
 
Bill Clinton started all this mess with his stupid CRA amendments.

You obviously have no idea what you are yapping about. Subprime CRA loans were less likely to be in default than subprime non-CRA loans.
 
It certainly isn't Obama's job... lmao

Obama has done EVERYTHING under the sun to help stimulate the economy. Sorry to burst your bubble, but cutting government expenditures with persistent levels of high unemployment is the worst thing you can do.
 
...And he has failed miserably.

Your partisan hatred is not a substitute for valid economic analysis. Do try again!
 
Your partisan hatred is not a substitute for valid economic analysis. Do try again!

Huh?

Just look at the numbers... They are horrible. Partisanship has nothing to do with it.
 
Y'all can keep on touching the different parts of the "elephant" like the fabled blind men if you like. But the sighted person actually sees the complete beast. It is called big government. Deal with that...reduce its size, scope and power...and the economy, and jobs, will skyrocket. It's as simple as that.

What's not simple is getting the government to reduce itself.
 
Y'all can keep on touching the different parts of the "elephant" like the fabled blind men if you like. But the sighted person actually sees the complete beast. It is called big government. Deal with that...reduce its size, scope and power...and the economy, and jobs, will skyrocket. It's as simple as that.

What's not simple is getting the government to reduce itself.

They are trying this in Europe. Guess what?
 
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