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[R.I.P.] Retired Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf dies

ChuckBerry said:
Either you're being disingenuous or you are inexcusably ignorant of recent American history.
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Harry Guerrilla said:
Desert Storm/Desert Shield?!?
Hell I have the complete collection of trading cards, they made for that war.

It was when Iraq invaded Kuwait.
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Don't be too harsh on him. For one, it was pretty recent. For another, it was very short. For a third, it wasn't all that sexy of a war.

The Desert Shield and Desert Storm is one of those forgotten wars that we've forgotten because of how quickly it went, much to the dismay of those military men who fought in it. After all, the only major mainstream depictions of the Gulf War are the films "Jarhead" and "Three Kings," and those aren't entirely celebratory of the conflict.

Personally, I think the Cold War is another one. I seriously doubt that most people could name a flag officer from the Cold War, and especially so if you take out those who also served in World War II.
 
samsmart said:
Don't be too harsh on him. For one, it was pretty recent. For another, it was very short. For a third, it wasn't all that sexy of a war.

The Desert Shield and Desert Storm is one of those forgotten wars that we've forgotten because of how quickly it went, much to the dismay of those military men who fought in it. After all, the only major mainstream depictions of the Gulf War are the films "Jarhead" and "Three Kings," and those aren't entirely celebratory of the conflict.
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Any person who regularly contributes to a politics board, particularly one who comments about American politics, and has a line of pictures of historically important socialists as part of his signature, and who has started and commented on numerous threads about George W. Bush's Iraq war, but claims ignorance of the general who led the first American Iraq invasion force is either A) being disingenuous because he's trying to be insulting or B) is ignorant of pretty basic history of a subject about which he is unduly opinionated.
 
SchartzKopf is the unsung general of many a military conflict. He wasn't the hero who prevails against impossible odds, rather he took all the massive advantages in his favor and used to them to win with a minimal loss of life. I really wish that we'd glamorize generals like him who were good at not screwing up rather than the kind who were lucky enough to pull off hail marys.
 
ChuckBerry said:
Any person who regularly contributes to a politics board, particularly one who comments about American politics, and has a line of pictures of historically important socialists as part of his signature, and who has started and commented on numerous threads about George W. Bush's Iraq war, but claims ignorance of the general who led the first American Iraq invasion force is either A) being disingenuous because he's trying to be insulting or B) is ignorant of pretty basic history of a subject about which he is unduly opinionated.
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1) Socialism has little to do with this issue.

2) If we want to discuss the Iraq War, yes, the Gulf War was a precursor to it. However, the Iran-Iraq War was a precursor to the Gulf War, and 99% of Americans don't even know there was one, let alone that the U.S. supported Iraq during that conflict, despite the Iraqis firing on the USS Stark. But that does not stop those ignorant of the Iran-Iraq War from being opinionated on the Iraq War, or even the Persian Gulf War.
 
he was very famous here .maybe he is in heaven now and sees us .)

hope he is in a good place
 
samsmart said:
1) Socialism has little to do with this issue.

2) If we want to discuss the Iraq War, yes, the Gulf War was a precursor to it. However, the Iran-Iraq War was a precursor to the Gulf War, and 99% of Americans don't even know there was one, let alone that the U.S. supported Iraq during that conflict, despite the Iraqis firing on the USS Stark. But that does not stop those ignorant of the Iran-Iraq War from being opinionated on the Iraq War, or even the Persian Gulf War.
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You're right, it's about obliquely ****ting on threads. Not sure why you're defending DemSocialist.
 
His leadership role in Operation Desert Storm beats any general who were in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
Saw this when I opened up my copy of The Star Ledger. A damn shame we lost him.
 
rest in peace.
 
American said:
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Retired Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf dies



Nothing much I can add, I liked him.
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I read his "It doesn't take a hero" book many years ago and also remember some of his press conferences on TV back during Desert Storm when he led CENTCOM.
 
samsmart said:
Don't be too harsh on him. For one, it was pretty recent. For another, it was very short. For a third, it wasn't all that sexy of a war.

The Desert Shield and Desert Storm is one of those forgotten wars that we've forgotten because of how quickly it went, much to the dismay of those military men who fought in it. After all, the only major mainstream depictions of the Gulf War are the films "Jarhead" and "Three Kings," and those aren't entirely celebratory of the conflict.

Personally, I think the Cold War is another one. I seriously doubt that most people could name a flag officer from the Cold War, and especially so if you take out those who also served in World War II.
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General Montgomery Meigs. He was my Cavalry Squadron Commander when he was a lieutentant colonel.
General Alexander Haig. He was the NATO commander when I was a 2nd Lieutenant. He visited my platoon.
General C. Powell. He was the first political general I was aware of. I never liked him.
General Shalikashvili. He was the commander of the 9th Infantry Division when I served at Fort Lewis.

With a few more minutes of thought I could come up with a dozen more names. :)
 
Misterveritis said:
General Montgomery Meigs. He was my Cavalry Squadron Commander when he was a lieutentant colonel.
General Alexander Haig. He was the NATO commander when I was a 2nd Lieutenant. He visited my platoon.
General C. Powell. He was the first political general I was aware of. I never liked him.
General Shalikashvili. He was the commander of the 9th Infantry Division when I served at Fort Lewis.

With a few more minutes of thought I could come up with a dozen more names. :)
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I did say "most people." :tongue4:
 
samsmart said:
1) Socialism has little to do with this issue.

2) If we want to discuss the Iraq War, yes, the Gulf War was a precursor to it. However, the Iran-Iraq War was a precursor to the Gulf War, and 99% of Americans don't even know there was one, let alone that the U.S. supported Iraq during that conflict, despite the Iraqis firing on the USS Stark. But that does not stop those ignorant of the Iran-Iraq War from being opinionated on the Iraq War, or even the Persian Gulf War.
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Do you know what RIP threads are about? It doesn't appear that you do.
 
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RDS said:
His leadership role in Operation Desert Storm beats any general who were in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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He had the advantage of Sir Peter de la Billiere beside him in his war.
 
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