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NRA Newtown response [W:818]

Re: NRA Newtown response

TurtleDude said:
that would be like some bible thumper saying we ought to try getting rid of aids by banning gay sex

to them there is nothing to lose by trying

Of course to someone like you, constitutional rights mean nothing when those rights are ones that conservatives advocate.

I guess the next time you engage in one of your "look at me" protests I should tell the police to open fire=it might stop a riot and again I lose nothing for them trying to do that
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Lets see the where in the Constitutional criminals and crazies have a right to purchase guns?
 
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lizzie said:
That sounds oddly like the Jolly old England, prior to the English declaration of rights.;)
God forbid we go back to the good old days.
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Aren't you from Canada, where they have much more strict regulation of firearms and hi cap mags?
 
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Catawba said:
Lets see the where in the Constitutional criminals and crazies have a right to purchase guns?
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that isn't at issue, the constitution says nothing about that and more importantly does not delegate to the federal government the power to stop that

but why are you talking about a document you have proven you have absolutely no understanding of?
 
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Catawba said:
We won't know until we require background checks and waiting period in every state. Currently, 3/4 of the states do not require background checks at private gun sales.
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all of them make murdering your mother and stealing her guns illegal

damn that didn't stop the nut from wiping out two score children

maybe the head of the school packing heat would have
 
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TurtleDude said:
that isn't at issue, the constitution says nothing about that and more importantly does not delegate to the federal government the power to stop that
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If that is truly the case, you should have no trouble overturning the new regulations! :cool:
 
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Catawba said:
We won't know until we require background checks and waiting period in every state. Currently, 3/4 of the states do not require background checks at private gun sales.
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There is no law in place, anywhere, that would have stopped the Newtown shooter from getting his hands on a firearm. So, you're proposing more laws? To do what? None of them would have applied to the Newtown shooter.
 
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TurtleDude said:
all of them make murdering your mother and stealing her guns illegal

damn that didn't stop the nut from wiping out two score children

maybe the head of the school packing heat would have
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More guns in schools isn't the solution. How about we work on fixing the nut or denying him access to guns?
 
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Catawba said:
If that is truly the case, you should have no trouble overturning the new regulations! :cool:
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sadly, our country's history is littered with wrong decisions or pathetic lack of action by the courts. separate but equal lasted how long?
 
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BigRedChief said:
More guns in schools isn't the solution. How about we work on fixing the nut or denying him access to guns?
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how is having armed teachers not appropriate. how are you going to fix the nut problem given our privacy act rights and how do you deny guns to someone willing to commit capital murder to get them?
 
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apdst said:
There is no law in place, anywhere, that would have stopped the Newtown shooter from getting his hands on a firearm. So, you're proposing more laws? To do what? None of them would have applied to the Newtown shooter.
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Once again do you HONESTLY BELIEVE CATAWBA's motivation is to stop CRIMINALS who are willing to die as well as commit capital murder from killing people
 
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BigRedChief said:
More guns in schools isn't the solution. How about we work on fixing the nut or denying him access to guns?
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A rational contribution! Welcome to the forum!
 
Re: NRA Newtown response

BigRedChief said:
More guns in schools isn't the solution. How about we work on fixing the nut or denying him access to guns?
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Have online schools and eliminate the target altogether.
 
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TurtleDude said:
sadly, our country's history is littered with wrong decisions or pathetic lack of action by the courts. separate but equal lasted how long?
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If this is the big daddy of Constitutional issues you make it out to be, it should be breeze for any attorney to successfully challenge.
 
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Catawba said:
How? Responsible gun owners will still be able to purchase guns.
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After they have a proctoscope up their ass? Costing them how much in bull**** fees? That's how.
 
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TurtleDude said:
Once again do you HONESTLY BELIEVE CATAWBA's motivation is to stop CRIMINALS who are willing to die as well as commit capital murder from killing people
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If you have something to say to me, why don't you say it to me directly, instead of leaving bait in your wake everywhere you crawl?
 
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apdst said:
After they have a proctoscope up their ass? Costing them how much in bull**** fees? That's how.
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I see you are concerned, ending the private sales loophole will cost you a few extra bucks. Thanks for clarifying your objections!
 
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Catawba said:
If this is the big daddy of Constitutional issues you make it out to be, it should be breeze for any attorney to successfully challenge.
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But, why should it have to come that?
 
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Catawba said:
If you have something to say to me, why don't you say it to me directly, instead of leaving bait in your wake everywhere you crawl?
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you have a tendency to evade tough questions and blather or repeat the same idiocy over and over.

like your claim that magazine bans won't be a hardship

how many times did you repeat that line?

and I wasn't saying that to you-I was saying it to someone else because he apparently hadn't figured it out yet
 
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apdst said:
It's kinda hard to bitch about it after you called us, "teabaggers".
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Hardly Turtle made a personal comment I gereralized now you are just trying to justify his actions! Nothing more nothingless.
 
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TaraAnne said:
Yes you called me a socialist Turtle among other things so stop lying!
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I said that several groups are making the anti gun rants

very liberal
progressives
socialists
or the clearly loony left

your lean is VERY LIBERAL

you fit one of the groups I mentioned
 
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TurtleDude said:
I said that several groups are making the anti gun rants

very liberal
progressives
socialists
or the clearly loony left

your lean is VERY LIBERAL

you fit one of the groups I mentioned
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So we are all socialist now you sound like someone who has run out of crap to spew and nothing more!
 
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TaraAnne said:
So we are all socialist now you sound like someone who has run out of crap to spew and nothing more!
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You tend not to want to read, let alone, understand what others post

I said the anti gun posts come from people who claim to be

very liberal
or socialist, or progressives
or ones who are clearly loony left (there are such people who claim to be "Centrists" moderates, libertarians or who have no lean at all)

it would be like someone saying the people who most support gay marriage and gays in the military tend to be

gay
lesbian
bisexual
or transgendered

if you claim to be gay that does not mean they are saying you are bisexual or a lesbian

just that you fit one of the groups

understand?
 
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TurtleDude said:
how is having armed teachers not appropriate. how are you going to fix the nut problem given our privacy act rights and how do you deny guns to someone willing to commit capital murder to get them?
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I would let Doctors and the courts, eventually the SCOTUS, to decide what mental conditions make them a threat to other citizens. Let the Doctors and courts decide when a patient takes or potentially could tale a violent turn in their life's.
 
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TurtleDude said:
You tend not to want to read, let alone, understand what others post

I said the anti gun posts come from people who claim to be

very liberal
or socialist, or progressives
or ones who are clearly loony left (there are such people who claim to be "Centrists" moderates, libertarians or who have no lean at all)

it would be like someone saying the people who most support gay marriage and gays in the military tend to be

gay
lesbian
bisexual
or transgendered

if you claim to be gay that does not mean they are saying you are bisexual or a lesbian

just that you fit one of the groups

understand?
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Thats the problem with the looney right they are so uncomfortable with themselves they have to group people to make their own short comings seem non exsistant. So if you have to group people I would rather be the above you mentioned than a Fascist. You have the idea that there is no problem at all and the only solution is your solution and we saw a couple of weeks ago exactly what the results were!
 
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BigRedChief said:
I would let Doctors and the courts, eventually the SCOTUS, to decide what mental conditions make them a threat to other citizens. Let the Doctors and courts decide when a patient takes or potentially could tale a violent turn in their life's.
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edify me how privacy rights will be impacted and if someone is a gun owner and feels a bit "off" why would he approach a doctor if it could mean his RKBA would disappear merely if his doctor reported him

I try lots of cases. I'd love to see some of the things the people suing my client said to their doctors. It would certainly be relevant. but guess what-I cannot get that information even though it would clearly promote justice

why not? because its privileged and the courts have determined that the pursuit of justice must take a back seat to such communications
 
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