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Bin Laden film attacked for 'perpetuating torture myth'

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[h=1]Bin Laden film attacked for 'perpetuating torture myth'[/h]So, apparently three senators are upset that a Hollywood movie is less than 100% factually accurate. In other news, one M. Mouse is revealed to be a cartoon rodent and dinosaurs can't really be cloned from DNA locked in amber for millions of years.

Really? Is this what members of Congress are drawing a salary for doing?
 
Actually, I think I'd rather have members of Congress focusing on that than what they do most days.
 
Some argue that the government's torture, or enhanced interrogation, rules are driving increased participation in AQ.
 
It really is unfortunate that "advanced interrogation methods" actually work.
 
It really is unfortunate that "advanced interrogation methods" actually work.
When I was a kid, I had this really cool pocket watch--one of the old ones with gears and ****.
Well, long story short, it got abused and broken and several other things. The hands became locked in place.
But darn if that thing didn't still have the right time on it twice a day.
 
When I was a kid, I had this really cool pocket watch--one of the old ones with gears and ****.
Well, long story short, it got abused and broken and several other things. The hands became locked in place.
But darn if that thing didn't still have the right time on it twice a day.

You've clearly never seen the psychology behind the methods. They absolutely work. There is an entire science dedicated to the field.
 
You've clearly never seen the psychology behind the methods. They absolutely work. There is an entire science dedicated to the field.
I know. I post links to texts from professionals in the field like those used by the USMC, the CIA, etc.

You might want to look at the career of Hanns Scharff. An extremely effective Nazi interrogator who elicited secrets from allied prisoners of war. We all know that the Nazis were free to resort to most any sort of despicable behavior and torture they wished. So his methods were culled from the best of the best of those.
 
It really is unfortunate that "advanced interrogation methods" actually work.

allow me to finish the sentence for you:
It really is unfortunate that "advanced interrogation methods" actually work to motivate the opposition
 
allow me to finish the sentence for you:
It really is unfortunate that "advanced interrogation methods" actually work to motivate the opposition


Well, allow me to translate what it is I think you'd agree with....After 9/11 we should have apologized profusely, and agreed to pay Dhimmi tax from that point forward to quell our guilt in being American.
 
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Well, allow me to illiterate what it is I think you'd agree with....

Any chance you could elucidate on what it is you believe the word 'illiterate' means? I've looked it up and I can't find a single dictionary definition that makes sense of your post.
 
Any chance you could elucidate on what it is you believe the word 'illiterate' means? I've looked it up and I can't find a single dictionary definition that makes sense of your post.

There, changed it...Thank you for watching my hasty grammar.
 
Any chance you could elucidate on what it is you believe the word 'illiterate' means? I've looked it up and I can't find a single dictionary definition that makes sense of your post.


Clearly I was reading it like this....




;)
 
Well, allow me to translate what it is I think you'd agree with....After 9/11 we should have apologized profusely, and agreed to pay Dhimmi tax from that point forward to quell our guilt in being American.

No one said that. That's a mother one of those efforts to skip the point. We have no real evidence that torture is effective. In fact, the evidence has always supported that it is ineffective and that other methods are more effective. Odd how some don't care want works, but just want to torture ( see how easy that is to do. I wonder if then point will be understood.)
 
It is weird to see Veteran McCain say torture doesn't work and is an excellent recruiting tool for the enemy as seen by the release of prisoner pics.

Multi deferement Cheney claims it lead to Osama.

Hollywood does the torture lead to Osama bit.

Usual suspects claim the alternative to torture is to lick the genitals of those who attacked us.

yep everything moving on time on target... :roll:
 
No one said that. That's a mother one of those efforts to skip the point. We have no real evidence that torture is effective. In fact, the evidence has always supported that it is ineffective and that other methods are more effective. Odd how some don't care want works, but just want to torture ( see how easy that is to do. I wonder if then point will be understood.)

In a CNN appearance, Former CIA director Michael Hayden said the detainees the administration said provided information on Osama bin Laden’s couriers were at one of the CIA’s locations that allowed enhanced interrogation techniques, not at Guantanamo Bay.

Read more: Did enhanced interrogation lead U.S. to Osama bin Laden? | The Daily Caller

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney on Wednesday declined to rule out that enhanced interrogation techniques helped lead the government to Osama bin Laden.

A reporter asked Carney: "It sounds to me at the very least like what you're saying is that the interrogation techniques cannot be ruled out as a critical and necessary piece to have found bin Laden. Is that correct?"

"Now, I can't categorically rule out that one piece of information -- because we don't know," Carney responded before lauding the work of the intelligence community.

White House won't rule out that enhanced interrogation techniques helped lead to bin Laden - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

A member of the US Senate Intelligence Committee has told CNBC that the death of Osama Bin Laden was a direct result of enhanced interrogations.

“The information that eventually led us to this compound was the direct result of enhanced interrogations; one can conclude if we had not used enhanced interrogations, we would not have come to yesterday's action,” US Senator Richard Burr in a telephone interview with CNBC.

As a member of the US Senate Intelligence Committee, Burr was briefed on the attack on the compound that led to Bin Laden’s death and believes the failure of Pakistani security forces to find the al-Qaeda leader sooner will be a strain on US relations.

Enhanced Interrogations Led to Bin Laden Kill: Senator


Ok, three separate sources, I wonder how this will be understood.
 
Ok, three separate sources, I wonder how this will be understood.

One poor source and two nothing but posturing. That's what I mean about poor sourcing. Having a politician say something isn't equal to factual information.
 
allow me to finish the sentence for you:
It really is unfortunate that "advanced interrogation methods" actually work to motivate the opposition

No motivation is necessary. They want you dead whether someone is waterboarded or not. :boom
 
Ok, three separate sources, I wonder how this will be understood.

So the Former Director of the NSA calling for the warrantless wire taps who moves to the CIA during the torture tenure claims it worked... who is surprised?

Strong supporter of BushII and ardent Republican from North Carolina claims torture worked... who is surprised?

The White House is accused of not denying the troture story because the evidence isn't there and that gets stood on it's head

Two other Senator's support Senator McCain's claim it didn't help... where is THAT link?

Cherry picking 'evidence' not just for politicians anymore...
 
Well, allow me to translate what it is I think you'd agree with....After 9/11 we should have apologized profusely, and agreed to pay Dhimmi tax from that point forward to quell our guilt in being American.

Allow me to translate what I think we would all agree with: You could not refute him so you had to build a straw man.
 
good lord people....Even Jay 'the liars liar' Carney couldn't refute that EIT's helped in the finding of OBL...Tell me people, have you always hated your country?
 
good lord people....Even Jay 'the liars liar' Carney couldn't refute that EIT's helped in the finding of OBL...Tell me people, have you always hated your country?

And credible source do.
 
And credible source do.

Daily Caller, maybe you have a point about lean, but CBS, and CNBC? Really? You are too much....You don't even see that you so easily dismiss what doesn't fit your screwed up narrative that you will call your own acceptable sources un credible....pure hackery.
 
Daily Caller, maybe you have a point about lean, but CBS, and CNBC? Really? You are too much....You don't even see that you so easily dismiss what doesn't fit your screwed up narrative that you will call your own acceptable sources un credible....pure hackery.

Reading problems again I see. I didn't comment on them as sources. As noted by others as well, I commented on those quoted. So, yes, what you're doing here is pure hackey, or trouble reading. Not sure which. You tell me.
 
Reading problems again I see. I didn't comment on them as sources. As noted by others as well, I commented on those quoted. So, yes, what you're doing here is pure hackey, or trouble reading. Not sure which. You tell me.

Well, let's take a look at what you are doing here...

You said this;

Boo Radley said:
And credible source do.

Credible sources? you never distinguish...I think purposely. And "do"? Do what?

Don't try that **** with me Joe...Your shtick is tired. Come on back when you can structure a sentence properly professor.
 
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