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Nancy Lanza a "prepper"?

The better question is why we have to learn about this stuff from the British press...
 
spanky said:
Go ahead. But don't criticize others who wish to discuss the information as it comes out.
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Oh, I'm not criticizing anyone who wants to discuss this junk. Just pointing out why I won't.
 
spanky said:
"Speaking from her home near Chicago, Marsha Lanza, 57, said: 'She was stockpiling food. We talked about prepping a lot. She was getting ready for the economic collapse.'

The woman's sister, who talked with her "a lot" about stockpiling food and "prepping" is now a dubious witness.
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So do I. Is my five year old going to go set some cats on fire?
 
ChuckBerry said:
Nope, not "dubious". Just uncorroborated.
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So what do you have that indicates she is lying about her sister who is lying in a morgue with 5 bullets in her face?
 
Mycroft said:
Oh, I'm not criticizing anyone who wants to discuss this junk. Just pointing out why I won't.
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You have A funny way of not discussing "this junk".
 
spanky said:
You have A funny way of not discussing "this junk".
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You have a funny way of misinterpreting my words.

Of course, I discussed this junk...at least to a point. Read my first post. But nowhere in my first post did I say anything about forum members who are discussing this junk.

Don't be so defensive, dude.
 
I'm not positive, but it seems to me that you are posting this to somehow cast her as a nutjob.

Since when has preparing for disaster become a sign of being a nutjob?

So, she had guns. NSS (No **** Sherlock). Take a look at Katrina, Sandy, hell just about any major broad area disaster, there has been raping, looting, murder, theft, etc. So she had handguns, again NSS. Have you ever tried to work with a rifle strapped to your back or stay within easy reach of it? That is the major reason Cowboys and others in the past carried a handgun, it made it readily available and allowed you do other things at the same time, not to mention, usually much lighter to carry. Even today, if I have to go to remote areas to fix fencing or do other chores, a rifle is too cumbersome. A handgun, you strap it on and go, knowing it is always there and in easy reach.
 
Mycroft said:
You have a funny way of misinterpreting my words.

Of course, I discussed this junk...at least to a point. Read my first post. But nowhere in my first post did I say anything about forum members who are discussing this junk.

Don't be so defensive, dude.
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I'm not defensive, I think it's funny when people engage in cognitive dissonance. The very fact you are here telling people they should wait before they believe initial reports coming out IS engaging in the discourse.

And what's even funnier is how you believe the official report is going to tell the whole truth.
 
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DVSentinel said:
I'm not positive, but it seems to me that you are posting this to somehow cast her as a nutjob.

Since when has preparing for disaster become a sign of being a nutjob?

So, she had guns. NSS (No **** Sherlock). Take a look at Katrina, Sandy, hell just about any major broad area disaster, there has been raping, looting, murder, theft, etc. So she had handguns, again NSS. Have you ever tried to work with a rifle strapped to your back or stay within easy reach of it? That is the major reason Cowboys and others in the past carried a handgun, it made it readily available and allowed you do other things at the same time, not to mention, usually much lighter to carry. Even today, if I have to go to remote areas to fix fencing or do other chores, a rifle is too cumbersome. A handgun, you strap it on and go, knowing it is always there and in easy reach.
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That isn't the issue though, is it? The issue is how her beliefs might have influenced her obviously compromised son.
 
spanky said:
Connecticut school shooting: Adam Lanza's survivalist mother was obsessed with guns | Mail Online


Preparing for Dec 21?
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Based on MSNBC Saturday, she thought the economy was going to tank and was stockpiling in case it did. She was already a gun enthusiast. per the report. Based on some things I heard today, she was really a good person who struggled as a parent with her son's issues as best that she could, and is as every bit as much of a victim of her son as everybody else is. Take it however you want to take it.
 
spanky said:
I'm not defensive, I think it's funny when people engage in cognitive dissonance. The very fact you are here telling people they should wait before they believe initial reports coming out IS engaging in the discourse.

And what's even funnier is how you believe the official report is going to tell the whole truth.
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I don't think you used that term correctly. What does it mean?
 
DVSentinel said:
I'm not positive, but it seems to me that you are posting this to somehow cast her as a nutjob.

Since when has preparing for disaster become a sign of being a nutjob?

So, she had guns. NSS (No **** Sherlock). Take a look at Katrina, Sandy, hell just about any major broad area disaster, there has been raping, looting, murder, theft, etc. So she had handguns, again NSS. Have you ever tried to work with a rifle strapped to your back or stay within easy reach of it? That is the major reason Cowboys and others in the past carried a handgun, it made it readily available and allowed you do other things at the same time, not to mention, usually much lighter to carry. Even today, if I have to go to remote areas to fix fencing or do other chores, a rifle is too cumbersome. A handgun, you strap it on and go, knowing it is always there and in easy reach.
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Uhhh, no. I posted an article of an interview with her seemingly close sister. Whether or not she was a nutjob is up to reader but personally I think that horse has left the barn.
 
Bummer Story! Not Janie got her gun, but Adam got the gun and shot her in bed, wow.

A potion of pharmaceuticals and mental stress induces radical behavior. Whouda thunk?
 
grip said:
LOL.... ah hah, I was right. ;)
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What, that I'm not you're lawn jockey? If you think I used the term incorrectly then it's up to you to make that case.
 
Henry David said:
Bummer Story! Not Janie got her gun, but Adam got the gun and shot her in bed, wow.

A potion of pharmaceuticals and mental stress induces radical behavior. Whouda thunk?
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No one has even got into what mixture of mind bending drugs the disturbed kid might have been on.
 
spanky said:
So what do you have that indicates she is lying about her sister who is lying in a morgue with 5 bullets in her face?
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Did I say she was lying? Nope.

It's a pretty simple and easy thing to acknowledge that corroboration is important to understanding what it reliable info and what is not. I'm not sure why you are resisting it so vehemently.
 
Sorry I wasn't implying that the story was just due to one person / voice / source but that it was growing and gaining legs and being propelled into the main stream media. Much
like the anti gun community is thrusting the issue of banning assault weapons upon us through numerous sources right now. There may be only one family member saying it
but there are more than one media outlet reporting it and the number is growing because it fits a nice agenda - even if the source is innacurate or off her rocker it won't matter
since its what the "media" wants to say.


ChuckBerry said:
I didn't say it was just one media source. I was referring solely to the OP article cited, which cites a single interview with a family member, with no corroboration.

ADDED: A quick search of other news articles alleging that she was a prepper are all referring ONLY to a single interview with Marsh Lanza, the woman's sister-in-law.

Multiple news sources repeating the words of one individual is NOT corroboration. Once additional individuals confirm the information of Marsh Lanza, then we can reasonably discuss what effect being a prepper may have had on her son.
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spanky said:
No one has even got into what mixture of mind bending drugs the disturbed kid might have been on.
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They would like to keep that secret. But perhaps some innocent lower bureaucrat might accidentally comply with the law.
 
spanky said:
Uhhh, no. I posted an article of an interview with her seemingly close sister. Whether or not she was a nutjob is up to reader but personally I think that horse has left the barn.
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I, and maybe others, may feel that your personal opinion was indeed the motivation behind posting it.

Now, what are you actually trying to say by "I think that horse has left the barn"? That because she was a "prepper", it proves she was a nutjob? If so, how does that prove she was a nutjob?
 
spanky said:
What, that I'm not you're lawn jockey? If you think I used the term incorrectly then it's up to you to make that case.
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I don't have to because it's obvious and self evident for anyone who knows the meaning.

The statement below is incorrect. Engaging in discourse would be discussing the subject matter, not advising someone to wait before commenting on the subject. That's prediscourse and not commentary.

The very fact you are here telling people they should wait before they believe initial reports coming out IS engaging in the discourse.
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