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Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

Your overlooking my points :doh
:doh is right!

:naughty
I have placed your points into proper perspective in regards to that which is being discussed.
They are meaningless to Tony's assault on Crowder.
They have absolutely nothing to do with the topic of him being punched in the face.


What you are doing would be akin to me posting all the following video's showing much the Union goons illegal activity from the day and saying; "See, Tony had it in for Crowder."

When only one of them actually shows such additional information.


*UNEXTRACTABLE "UNEDITED" VIDEO
Violence in Michigan | Fox News Video

*ORIGINAL CROWDER VIDEO
UNIONS ASSAULT ON CAMERA!! - YouTube

*INSIDE VIEW
Inside view as unions tear down AFP tent - YouTube

*SHOT FROM REAR OF CROWD
AFP tent gets destroyed during R2W protests in MI - YouTube

*UNION GUYS LOOSENING STRAPS RIGHT BEFORE COLLAPSE
Union thugs in MI collapse AFP tent - YouTube

*INCONSEQUENSIAL CROWD BEHAVIOR SOME TIME BEFORE CONFRONTATION
Union members taunt and close in on AFP tent at MI State Capitol - YouTube

*CROWDER ARGUING WITH ASSAILANT 01
Steven Crowder documents union captain tactics - YouTube

*GINGER GUY BLOCKING PHONE
Beat your asses! RTW protestor grabs at iphone - YouTube

*UNION GUYS LOOSENING TENT STRAPS - INSIDE VIEW
Union members loosen straps from AFP tent - YouTube

*LONG AFTER THE WHOLE THING IS DONE
RTW Supporters clean up Union mess from tent collapse - YouTube

*GINGER BAITING COPS
Protestor Taunts Police Outside Governor's Office At Right-To-Work Protest - YouTube

*CUTTING UP TENT FOR SOUVENIERS
Cutting Up AFP Tent on Michigan Capitol Lawn - YouTube

*CROWDER ARGUING WITH ASSAILANT 02
Steven Crowder's attacker VERBALLY attacks him a hour earlier. - YouTube

Start at the 3:00 min mark


*FOOTAGE FROM INSIDE THE TENT
Footage from Inside: Union thugs attack AFP Tent - YouTube

*THIRD ANGLE ON THE FIGHT (3:00) & TENT COLLAPSE FROM INSIDE
Inside view of the fall of the AFP tent - YouTube

*CAMERA PHONE OF COPS ARIVING AFTER THE FACT
Cutting the AFP Tent - YouTube

*AFTER TENT COLLAPSE W/ GINGER
Michigan Right to Work Protest Devolves into Anarchy - YouTube

*TEARING DOWN TENTPOLES AND ATTACKING A WOMAN?
A fight breaks out after protesting union members tear down - YouTube

*AFTER POLICE MOVING IN, UNION GUY THROWS SOMETHING AT THEM
Michigan "Right to Work": Union Protester Throws Object at Michigan State Police - YouTube

*ALTERCATION OUTSIDE ... UNION DOODS COME INSIDE AND KNOCK STUFF OVER
Lansing Union mob attacking tent - FULL VIDEO - YouTube

*ANOTHER VIEW FROM INSIDE TENT
Inside tent before the union mob destroys it - YouTube

From: Crowder files complaint with Michigan state troopers
 
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You keep leaving oit the why.

Tony was.engaged with someone else.

Crowder goes past him toward the tent then we see tony go down as crowder goes ack away from the tent.

Crowder says he tripped, but he obviously felt crowder was responsible.
:naughty

No, I am not leaving anything out. I have already said what Tony thought was all on him.

And he didn't go past him.
He left him where he was.

For all you know Tony actually swung on Crowder as he walked away, missed and his momentum carried him to the ground.
You have no idea.
But we can see that Crowder was not engaged with Tony at the time. Period.

And your bs about Tony focusing on Crowder is just that.
If he was knocked down unexpectedly, which he may have been, who the **** do you think he is going to focus on? His fellow thug buddies or someone in the immediate area that he thinks he has a beef with?
 
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coming from a guy who didn't get one single thing correct about last election... not just wrong but wwwwwaaaaaayyyyyyy off base, I'll take your claims of accuracy as verifying I'm correct and I'll take the more insulting tone of your post as a badge of honor.

yea... I trust your eyes over my own...


...we all saw the tape..
 
:naughty

No, I am not leaving anything out. I have already said what Tony thought was all on him.

And he didn't go past him.
He left him where he was.

For all you know Tony actually swung on Crowder as he walked away, missed and his momentum carried him to the ground.
You have no idea.
But we can see that Crowder was not engaged with Tony at the time. Period.

And your bs about Tony focusing on Crowder is just that.
If he was knocked down unexpectedly, which he may have been, who the **** do you think he is going to focus on? His fellow thug buddies or someone in the immediate area that he thinks he has a beef with?

actually what happened is this union thug fell over backwards over one of the tent ropes that was anchored... he fell backwards with nobody touching him... he then got up like a lunatic thinking Crowder was somehow involved because Crowder was looking so sheepishly with his motion that he did not touch anyone... also Crowder was being harrased and he was already a target...

Crowder is awesome.. he would have destroyed this union guy, but as a thinkng person he knew he was going to be attacked by a crowd and have no chance..

sadly I beleive Crowders wife and family are under harrasment and fear for their safety...

How the libs here defend this thuggary is no surprise.. they voted Obama.. mobs and attacking of freedom is the norm
 
yea... I trust your eyes over my own...


...we all saw the tape..


Remember how before the election when you were telling me how Nate Silver was bias and his polls couldn't be trusted? Now that Crowder has filed charges, all this will come to light. I'll just tell you now like I did before the elections, we are going to find out and I'll bet I'm right and I'll bet you are wrong... again.
 
Remember how before the election when you were telling me how Nate Silver was bias and his polls couldn't be trusted? Now that Crowder has filed charges, all this will come to light. I'll just tell you now like I did before the elections, we are going to find out and I'll bet I'm right and I'll bet you are wrong... again.

I remember not caring about your pov... as its irrelevent and always wrong.. congrats on your vote throwing our freedom away with your lust for Obama...you and your sheep can rejoyce..
 
I remember not caring about your pov...

You seem to care enough to initiate this back and forth with me and to keep replying to my posts.

Travis007 said:
as its irrelevent and always wrong..

Says the guy who I used to have quoted in my sig saying Obama would lose in a landslide. :lol:

Travis007 said:
congrats on your vote throwing our freedom away with your lust for Obama...you and your sheep can rejoyce..

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!! STILL!!!!!!!!!
 
actually what happened is this union thug fell over backwards over one of the tent ropes that was anchored... he fell backwards with nobody touching him... he then got up like a lunatic thinking Crowder was somehow involved because Crowder was looking so sheepishly with his motion that he did not touch anyone... also Crowder was being harrased and he was already a target...

Crowder is awesome.. he would have destroyed this union guy, but as a thinkng person he knew he was going to be attacked by a crowd and have no chance..

sadly I beleive Crowders wife and family are under harrasment and fear for their safety...

How the libs here defend this thuggary is no surprise.. they voted Obama.. mobs and attacking of freedom is the norm
I am all for accuracy of the information presented.
He didn't fall over backwards as far as I can see. I am pretty sure he fell forwards with his hands out in front of him to brace his fall.
At least that is what would explain the position in which he was seen.

As for getting up and thinking Crowder was responsible, he may have. Either that or he just wanted to take out his anger on him as Crowder is who he opposed.
 
You seem to care enough to initiate this back and forth with me and to keep replying to my posts.



Says the guy who I used to have quoted in my sig saying Obama would lose in a landslide. :lol:



THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!! STILL!!!!!!!!!
This isn't about Obama or who was right in another thread.
It is about this thread, in which you have continuously shown to be wrong by the evidence.
 
This isn't about Obama or who was right in another thread.
It is about this thread, in which you have continuously shown to be wrong by the evidence.

Just answering to his posts. Funny, I don't see you begrudging Travis for driving this thread off topic. I wonder why that is?

You'll be sitting in the same shame wagon as Travis when Chowder's charges are tossed or dropped.
 
I am all for accuracy of the information presented.
He didn't fall over backwards as far as I can see. I am pretty sure he fell forwards with his hands out in front of him to brace his fall.
At least that is what would explain the position in which he was seen.

As for getting up and thinking Crowder was responsible, he may have. Either that or he just wanted to take out his anger on him as Crowder is who he opposed.

No doubt.. this goon was just in a mob lather of hostility... who attacks a "tent" with women and children in it.?
these lib dem mobs are a real issue..

wheres Obama condeming this?... no beer summit?...
 
Just answering to his posts. Funny, I don't see you begrudging Travis for driving this thread off topic. I wonder why that is?

You'll be sitting in the same shame wagon as Travis when Chowder's charges are tossed or dropped.


Your posts are a waste of pixels... you are reduced to whining that the topic has moved to where you dont want it..after you want to bring up your messiah Obama..

funny stuff for sure..
 
Just answering to his posts.
No you were not. You were taking it off topic with irrelevant bs.

Funny, I don't see you begrudging Travis for driving this thread off topic. I wonder why that is?
Because he was not the initiator. You were.

You'll be sitting in the same shame wagon as Travis when Chowder's charges are tossed or dropped.
Well now, that depends of a few things, doesn't it?
First of all the charges have to be dropped or tossed. And the reason for doing so would have to be in accord with your position that he didn't do anything wrong. That ain't gonna happen.

Dropped to lesser charges, maybe, but he still acted wrongly.
 
No doubt.. this goon was just in a mob lather of hostility... who attacks a "tent" with women and children in it.?
these lib dem mobs are a real issue..

wheres Obama condeming this?... no beer summit?...
If you are going to respond to me, please stay within the topic.
Obama has nothing to do with Tony hitting Crowder.
 
No you were not. You were taking it off topic with irrelevant bs.

Because he was not the initiator. You were.

Well now, that depends of a few things, doesn't it?
First of all the charges have to be dropped or tossed. And the reason for doing so would have to be in accord with your position that he didn't do anything wrong. That ain't gonna happen.

Dropped to lesser charges, maybe, but he still acted wrongly.

Here you go...

Post #672... Travis, who I never spoke to or about in this thread, cherry picks out one of my posts and addresses me. He initiated. And he and you are both off the charts wrong blinded with partisan craziness. And as I said, you will be shown this as Chowder's charges magically disappear where you both will go into even deeper denial.
 
Here you go...

Post #672... Travis, who I never spoke to or about in this thread, cherry picks out one of my posts and addresses me. He initiated. And he and you are both off the charts wrong blinded with partisan craziness. And as I said, you will be shown this as Chowder's charges magically disappear where you both will go into even deeper denial.

Really dude?
:doh

Really?
:lamo:lamo

Are your faculties this far gone?
Him responded to something you said that is on topic is not initiating it.
Your following reply was the one taking it off topic. And the one which initiated it.
coming from a guy who didn't get one single thing correct about last election... not just wrong but wwwwwaaaaaayyyyyyy off base, I'll take your claims of accuracy as verifying I'm correct and I'll take the more insulting tone of your post as a badge of honor.

What the **** does you being wrong in this thread have to do with him being wrong about the last election in another thread? Nothing. You were taking it off topic.
You were the initiator of taking it off topic.
Knock it off and stay on topic.
 
Really dude?
:doh

Really?
:lamo:lamo

Are your faculties this far gone?
Him responded to something you said that is on topic is not initiating it.
Your following reply was the one taking it off topic. And the one which initiated it.

What the **** does you being wrong in this thread have to do with him being wrong about the last election in another thread? Nothing. You were taking it off topic.
You were the initiator of taking it off topic.
Knock it off and stay on topic.

So this is you teaching me on how to stay on topic by going off topic and making the topic all about me?

okay. :lol:
 
So this is you teaching me on how to stay on topic by going off topic and making the topic all about me?

okay.
You do realize none of this would have happened if you had stayed on topic, right?
And as I have no problem responding to off topic bs, it sometimes needs to be pointed out to the person in denial that they were the initiator.

So how about getting back on topic, and we can discuss how wrong your assumptions about this incident between Tony and Crowder are.
 
You do realize none of this would have happened if you had stayed on topic, right?
And as I have no problem responding to off topic bs, it sometimes needs to be pointed out to the person in denial that they were the initiator.

So how about getting back on topic, and we can discuss how wrong your assumptions about this incident between Tony and Crowder are.

This is comedy gold. Let me teach you what initiate means. My post was to you. He decided to be your knight in shining armor and attack me off topic in post 672. I had never addressed him. He addressed me. That's called initiating.

This is some serious :facepalm stuff here. Too funny aaaaannnnnnd... proceed.
 
This is comedy gold. Let me teach you what initiate means. My post was to you. He decided to be your knight in shining armor and attack me off topic in post 672. I had never addressed him. He addressed me. That's called initiating.

This is some serious :facepalm stuff here. Too funny aaaaannnnnnd... proceed.
So, your faculties are that gone. What a shame.

His post to you did not initiate the "Off topic" banter. Yours initiated it.
No one but you would dispute such obvious evidence.
You are the initiator. You initiated the "Off topic" bs.

His comment saying you were wrong about this topic is "On topic." Or did you not know that?

You saying he was wrong in another topic, is taking it "off topic". I am surprised that an adult needs to be taught this.
Ah, maybe I am assuming too much. Or maybe not?
You are an adult aren't you?


Now again, one more time...

How about getting back on topic, and we can discuss how wrong your assumptions about this incident between Tony and Crowder are.
 
So, your faculties are that gone. What a shame.

His post to you did not initiate the "Off topic" banter. Yours initiated it.
No one but you would dispute such obvious evidence.
You are the initiator. You initiated the "Off topic" bs.

His comment saying you were wrong about this topic is "On topic." Or did you not know that?

You saying he was wrong in another topic, is taking it "off topic". I am surprised that an adult needs to be taught this.
Ah, maybe I am assuming too much. Or maybe not?
You are an adult aren't you?


Now again, one more time...

How about getting back on topic, and we can discuss how wrong your assumptions about this incident between Tony and Crowder are.

blah blah blah 5 paragraphs of off-topic ranting about off-topic post...


Now back to topic. You are still wrong.
 
blah blah blah 5 paragraphs of off-topic ranting about off-topic post...


Now back to topic. You are still wrong.
Yes you are still wrong. And have been proven so by the evidence.

But I should have known.
A self professed liberal not knowing what initiating "off topic" bs means, and then applying it in a distorted fashion to try and save face. How sad.
It figures, but it is also sad.

Must be the same distorted logic that allows them to not blame Tony the initiator of the violence, but instead blame Crowder simply because he was there.
 
:doh is right!

:naughty
I have placed your points into proper perspective in regards to that which is being discussed.
They are meaningless to Tony's assault on Crowder.
They have absolutely nothing to do with the topic of him being punched in the face.


What you are doing would be akin to me posting all the following video's showing much the Union goons illegal activity from the day and saying; "See, Tony had it in for Crowder."

When only one of them actually shows such additional information.

All i posted was an account by an eyewitness, and Crowder is known for going out of his way to provoke people and get in peoples faces with his past videos.
I never said what happened was right or said that Crowder assaulted anyone..
 
Hey I wasn't on the ground!
LOL Of course you weren't, because it just says "man" and you "The Man". Clever how you made me say that. lol
 
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