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Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

Excon said:
Your comments and narrative is delusional as it does not fit the video we saw.
He did not push that guy.
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He DID push that guy and he admitted he pushed people around. In your fabricated defense of Crowder you won't even believe Crowder's own words.

You are in the worst case of denial this forum has seen in some time.
 
Moot said:
Meh, thats okay, people don't get what I say most of the time either. See, I can be nice. ;)
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I stand corrected. :lol:
 
Once, when I was in San Francisco, I had New England Clam Crowder in a Sour Dough bowl. It was good . . . this crowder is just a contributor . . . he brings no clam meat to the recipe . . . well, maybe just a little, but it's not like he is even a real member of the soup. Bad soup, bad taste . . . who cares?

Never mind, there is 63-pages of Crowder Chowder. Obviously lot's a folks care.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
These union thugs reminded me of the occupy crowd and this kind of behavior does not help their cause in the least, in fact I would say they are shooting themselves in the foot if not the head.
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Hey smart guy, are you a member of the uber-wealthy upper class plutocracy? If not, then you have no rational reason to be opposed to organized labor or collective bargaining, and I suggest that you quit taking sides against your own interests.

There is nothing more disgusting than watching middle-class fools being duped into socioeconomic oppression because they are intellectually lazy and have allowed themselves to be horribly misinformed in a society which allows for the free-flow of information, even if the most convenient source of information is a mass news media which is controlled by a deceitful cabal of uber-wealthy upper class plutocrats.

For God's sake, man, do your homework and think before you opine!
 
Sig said:
Hey smart guy, are you a member of the uber-wealthy upper class plutocracy? If not, then you have no rational reason to be opposed to organized labor or collective bargaining, and I suggest that you quit taking sides against your own interests.

There is nothing more disgusting than watching middle-class fools being duped into socioeconomic oppression because they are intellectually lazy and have allowed themselves to be horribly misinformed in a society which allows for the free-flow of information, even if the most convenient source of information is a mass news media which is controlled by a deceitful cabal of uber-wealthy upper class plutocrats.

For God's sake, man, do your homework and think before you opine!
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Wow, that sure is a whole lot of word salad to call those that don't agree with you dumb.
 
j-mac said:
Wow, that sure is a whole lot of word salad to call those that don't agree with you dumb.
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Actually, it's a bit more than that. It's a wake-up call for the gullible and naive.
 
Catawba said:
I've been following along enough to know that you misrepresented what the State Police said!

For those following along at home, this is what Excon said the State Police stated:

And this is what the State Police actually stated.

Excon, busted again!
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Busted again? Are you also delusional?
I haven't been busted to be able to be busted again. Nor have I been busted this time.

Nor have I misrepresented what was reported.You are being dishonest.
But is is you who have been busted not paying attention and being dishonest.

Had you read that which had come before you would know that. Which also shows your dishonesty in debate.

That’s the word from Michigan State Police, who are ready to investigate and prosecute the man who punched Crowder multiple times on camera Tuesday — if only Crowder would let them.​


Replies made to you which are not misrepresentations as you ridiculously say they are.

Excon said:
Fact - State Police have already said they are ready top Prosecute.
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Excon said:
and the State Police have already stated they are ready to Prosecute.
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Excon said:
The State Police are ready to investigate and Prosecute.
All Crowder has to do is come forward to press charges.
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Excon said:
Your refusal to accept what I said, does not change the fact that it was reported that they said they are willing to investigate and Prosecute if Crowder comes forward, in any way shape or form.
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And as it was originally provided yesterday by Someville. A post you liked!
And you got the gall to play like you didn't know of it?

Nope! You are the one who has been thoroughly busted with your outright untruths and dishonesty.

Here is where I quoted the post you liked.
Excon said:
Grant said:
Somerville said:
Police in Michigan are wondering about Crowder's state of mind
Michigan Police Question Fox News Contributor’s ‘Punch’ Story | TPMDC
Michigan State Police, who are ready to investigate and prosecute the man who punched Crowder multiple times on camera Tuesday — if only Crowder would let them. ... according to Michigan State Police, Crowder has so far shown no interest in having it investigated.
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Hmmmm -- does make one wonder if there just might be some things about the punch-out that Crowder doesn't want to go public.
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You have to wonder at the state of mind of the Michigan police if they've never heard of someone not interested in pressing charges.
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And Crowder already issued his challenge to the guy.
He is waiting for the guy to come forward, yet it appears at least from the report that they are going to investigate and prosecute him anyways, showing that the Union thug was in the wrong and not Crowder.
iLOL

I swear! :doh Posting an article that basically destroys their own side. :doh What will Union supporters think of next? :lamo
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j-mac said:
I see, so the 'gullible, and naive' would be?....
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Two words that describe the state of being "gullible" and "naive," which should not be confused with "functionally illiterate" or "having the vocabulary of a third-grader" but could mean "so damn stupid that one cannot even recognize when one is being duped into taking sides against oneself."
 
Sig said:
Two words that describe the state of being "gullible" and "naive," which should not be confused with "functionally illiterate" or "having the vocabulary of a third-grader" but could mean "so damn stupid that one cannot even recognize when one is being duped into taking sides against oneself."
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Hmmm....Why are you attacking? I am asking you a simple question. Does that threaten you? I'll try again, Who are the "gullible, and naive" you speak of?
 
j-mac said:
Hmmm....Why are you attacking? I am asking you a simple question. Does that threaten you? I'll try again, Who are the "gullible, and naive" you speak of?
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Were you asking a simple question or were you asking a very vague and grammatically incorrect question?

As to "who" are the naive and gullible, that should be pretty clear. However, since your reading comprehension skills are obviously weak, I will spell it out for you loud and clear: A-N-Y-O-N-E W-H-O I-S N-O-T A M-E-M-B-E-R O-F T-H-E U-P-P-E-R C-L-A-S-S P-L-U-T-O-C-R-A-C-Y A-N-D I-S O-P-P-O-S-E-D T-O O-R-G-A-N-I-Z-E-D L-A-B-O-R O-R C-O-L-L-E-C-T-I-V-E B-A-R-G-A-I-N-I-N-G.

Is that clear enough for you?
 
Sig said:
Were you asking a simple question or were you asking a very vague and grammatically incorrect question?

As to "who" are the naive and gullible, that should be pretty clear. However, since your reading comprehension skills are obviously weak, I will spell it out for you loud and clear: A-N-Y-O-N-E W-H-O I-S N-O-T A M-E-M-B-E-R O-F T-H-E U-P-P-E-R C-L-A-S-S P-L-U-T-O-C-R-A-C-Y A-N-D I-S O-P-P-O-S-E-D T-O O-R-G-A-N-I-Z-E-D L-A-B-O-R O-R C-O-L-L-E-C-T-I-V-E B-A-R-G-A-I-N-I-N-G.

Is that clear enough for you?
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Ok, so you don't want to have a conversation....Don't respond to me anymore then...
 
Excon said:
What if...? said:
'Specially since the camera focuses on his name patch (shakily) more than long enough for anybody who's actually interested to read it.

And the kind of ego that issues a fight challenge is the kind who blusters about, knocking folks down.
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Well if you believe that instead of it showing an organization's patch, then surely you can say his name.

So go ahead. What is his name. Tell us all, since you say you can see it.
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I am not surprised you didn't take me up on the offer to say his name.
It would have required you to actually view the videos.

His first name can clearly be seen. It is Tony.
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Tony C o (something) g a or g o.
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poweRob said:
He DID push that guy and he admitted he pushed people around. In your fabricated defense of Crowder you won't even believe Crowder's own words.

You are in the worst case of denial this forum has seen in some time.
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Yes you are one of the worse cases of denial this thread has seen.

You are spewing outright dishonesty.
He never pushed that guy to the ground, and he never said he did. You are telling untruths.
His back was to him at that point in time. It would be impossible to do so because of it.

This is the guy that he pushed away . Trying to stop him from tearing down the tent.
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Which is when Tony and another thug got in his way and pressed himself up against Crowder and the guy he was with.
 
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poweRob said:
He DID push that guy and he admitted he pushed people around. In your fabricated defense of Crowder you won't even believe Crowder's own words.

You are in the worst case of denial this forum has seen in some time.
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Yes you are one of the worse cases of denial this thread has seen.

You are spewing outright dishonesty.
He never pushed that guy to the ground, and he never said he did. You are telling untruths.
His back was to him at that point in time. It would be impossible to do so because of it.




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Even the guy in the red hard hat is focused on that dispute.

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He didn't push him to the ground.
 
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Looks like a take down to me.
 
Utility Man said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FnA1BLDpIw

Looks like a take down to me.
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Then you need to open your eyes. Because there is no take down (iLOL) in the video you presented.
As we can clearly see Crowder is facing away from Tony and has his hands in the air.

It was impossible for him to have pushed Tony to the ground. Their positions make it impossible.

But if you still believe such delusional bs, you are dreaming.

And frankly, the pictures I presented show you to be wrong.
 
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Utility Man said:
Looks like a take down to me.
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Also,



...how does a guy who wasn't even looking at Crowder in the video, end up with Crowder's body facing directly at him with his hands up in the air, and the guy on his hands and knees facing down? Crowder not only pushed the guy down he pushed him from behind. A young man Crowder with MMA training, pushed an older, out of shape man from behind then the older pudgy man got up and punched him for it.

Now he wants a controlled fight with an older out of shape man who pwned him so he can get his manly credibility back... all while getting press and air-time which is his ultimate goal. :lol:

Crowder is Fox's new O'Keefe. Lying journalism with highly edited videos.
 
poweRob said:
Also,



...how does a guy who wasn't even looking at Crowder in the video, end up with Crowder's body facing directly at him with his hands up in the air, and the guy on his hands and knees facing down? Crowder not only pushed the guy down he pushed him from behind. A young man Crowder with MMA training, pushed an older, out of shape man from behind then the older pudgy man got up and punched him for it.

Now he wants a controlled fight with an older out of shape man who pwned him so he can get his manly credibility back... all while getting press and air-time which is his ultimate goal. :lol:

Crowder is Fox's new O'Keefe. Lying journalism with highly edited videos.
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Between the two of you, you are the only one being dishonest.

:doh

How?
How? :doh
Go to the damn video that is linked to in the OP's article and watch to see how.
You know. The Opening Post. Go to page one, read the Opening Post.
Click on the link to the article and watch the video there.
It is the video with the unedited portion.
How many times do I need to tell you folks that?

As it stands, the images I provided, prove your hyper-partisan bs position wrong.

Crowder did not push the guy to the ground as it was impossible from their positions.
 
Michigan Police Scratch Their Heads At Fox Contributor’s Post-Punch Media Tour

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“There is video footage of him being assaulted. We don’t know who the suspect is, but we could do a several month investigation and find the suspect,” Inspector Gene Adamczyk, spokesperson for the state police, told TPM on Thursday. “But if Mr. Crowder is not going to prosecute, we have not gained anything, we’ve wasted resources.”

“I saw Mr. Crowder’s interview on Sean Hannity and he wants to have an MMA-sanctioned fight with this individual,”

“You can’t leverage the law for personal gain,” he said. “Either you’re the victim, or you’re not. So if he’s the victim of an assault, and he wants to file a complaint, we will definitely investigate it.”

“If somebody broke into your house, wouldn’t you immediately report it to the police? If someone assaulted you or your family member wouldn’t you report it immediately to the police?” Adamczyk said. “Well, why wouldn’t you, unless there’s a personal agenda there.”​


Sums this up in a nutshell. Crowder is a piece of **** that went there to instigate a fight and got what he was looking for. Now he's on a self-promotion tour getting publicity by crying about being a victim.

From Ken Spitzley a state agriculture department employee that was there:


"He was just after everybody. There was no question that he was there just to start a fight, to start some kind of trouble."

"Crowder wasn't going to go home until he got punched."​
 
Excon said:
Between the two of you, you are the only one being dishonest.

:doh

How?
How? :doh
Go to the damn video that is linked to in the OP's article and watch to see how.
You know. The Opening Post. Go to page one, read the Opening Post.
Click on the link to the article and watch the video there.
It is the video with the unedited portion.
How many times do I need to tell you folks that?

As it stands, the images I provided, prove your hyper-partisan bs position wrong.

Crowder did not push the guy to the ground as it was impossible from their positions.
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I think this full circle you keep spinning in is done until even more evidence comes forth exposing your partisan blindness. Beyond the obvious that is already shown you to be wrong.
 
poweRob said:
Michigan Police Scratch Their Heads At Fox Contributor’s Post-Punch Media Tour

From Inspector Gene Adamczyk:


“There is video footage of him being assaulted. We don’t know who the suspect is, but we could do a several month investigation and find the suspect,” Inspector Gene Adamczyk, spokesperson for the state police, told TPM on Thursday. “But if Mr. Crowder is not going to prosecute, we have not gained anything, we’ve wasted resources.”

“I saw Mr. Crowder’s interview on Sean Hannity and he wants to have an MMA-sanctioned fight with this individual,”

“You can’t leverage the law for personal gain,” he said. “Either you’re the victim, or you’re not. So if he’s the victim of an assault, and he wants to file a complaint, we will definitely investigate it.”

“If somebody broke into your house, wouldn’t you immediately report it to the police? If someone assaulted you or your family member wouldn’t you report it immediately to the police?” Adamczyk said. “Well, why wouldn’t you, unless there’s a personal agenda there.”​


Sums this up in a nutshell. Crowder is a piece of **** that went there to instigate a fight and got what he was looking for. Now he's on a self-promotion tour getting publicity by crying about being a victim.

From Ken Spitzley a state agriculture department employee that was there:


"He was just after everybody. There was no question that he was there just to start a fight, to start some kind of trouble."

"Crowder wasn't going to go home until he got punched."​
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Crowder was clearly looking for trouble and the unedited version of the tape raises some various interesting questions and speculations.
 
poweRob said:
Sums this up in a nutshell. Crowder is a piece of **** that went there to instigate a fight and got what he was looking for.
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Your hyper-partisan ship is showing.
It doesn't say that.

Nor does it change the fact that Tony swung on Crowder.


poweRob said:
From Ken Spitzley a state agriculture department employee that was there:


"He was just after everybody. There was no question that he was there just to start a fight, to start some kind of trouble."

"Crowder wasn't going to go home until he got punched."​
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:doh
And of course you want to believe that even though it isn't backed up by anyone.
Nor would it change the facts as to Tony swinging on Crowder.

As it was impossible for Crowder to push Tony to the ground as their positions show.
 
poweRob said:
I think this full circle you keep spinning in is done until even more evidence comes forth exposing your partisan blindness. Beyond the obvious that is already shown you to be wrong.
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More bs from you?
Between the two of us, you are the only one who has shown to be wrong.
Shown to be wrong by the evidence.
 
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