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Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

TaraAnne said:
He has every right to do what he feels he needs to do. Thats not the point. The brightbart reporter went there to get a reaction and got punched now he has the right to cry about it!

However to your real point if employers would have treated worker right and tried not to screw every nickle out of their employees Unions would not be needed. America has a long history of business owners of doing that!
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You're trying to get a reaction out of me - can I punch you in the face?

I love how you believe that fools actions are somehow justified..

Furthermore I don't care what you believe..... Individuals should have the choice to join a labor union or NOT! They have the RIGHT to work -- if they want to join the union then sobeit -- if they don't want to join the union then they shouldn't have to.

The workers should have a Goddamn choice...

These days unions are nothing more than criminal organizations that steal money from the working man! You talk about the "rich" profiting off the working man??? what exactly do you think unions do? Those union delegates are pulling at least 6 figures, many of them 7 figures and you're crying about how it's "no fair" how someone is rich because they built a business from the ground up over several decades and are now rich??

What is wrong with you?

The labor unions are nothing more than an extortion racket. What they do today is no different than what they did when the Italians were running the racket. The Italians would tell a business; "pay us so we don't have to burn your store down."
 
TaraAnne said:
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I am so sure these were liberal Democrates that did these horrific things jus sayin!
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And in what universe are those idiots conservatives or republicans?

I love how democrats think any white guy who is racist or commits a hate crime is a republican or conservative.

Besides, in what universe is modern racism even remotely politically motivated? back in the day it most certainly was (like I said the KKK was like the ACORN of the south for democrats)...
 
No I am not trying to get a reaction out of you! You are missing the point! The point is if you say something to someone they do not like you have to be ready for the reaction in this case the guy threw a couple of punches. While it may not be right or acceptable to some to other it is perfectly fine!


People in Michigan do not have to join the Union at all they can bargin on thier own. People in Unions pay dues to get go working conditions, wages, and healthcare. They pay for that right. The people that do not pay get a free ride on the coat tails of Union members who pay for representation how is that fair. The workers have a choice that is what you fail to see. Plus the state does not want it. Isnt about what the people want not some politicians who were bought off by a bunch of trust funding billionaires? The great thing is that in two years Republicans will be voted out of Michigan they just sealed their fate with this, and it will have a trickle effect in other state races.

The labor unions are nothing more than an extortion racket. What they do today is no different than what they did when the Italians were running the racket. The Italians would tell a business; "pay us so we don't have to burn your store down."[/QUOTE]
 
Mr.Nick said:
Who cares! no one has the right to assault another individual just because they don't agree with their political position on an issue.

There is no possible way you can justify this union savage actions..
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Your fangs are showing.
 
Deuce said:
So, you know all those racist southern Democrats who did stuff like that?

Do you know who they vote for now?
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Yeah those who are still alive either vote democrat or neo-con (if they vote at all).

You do realize these crazy racist groups favor big government - a big government that will enforce their racist ideas??

Most republicans and conservatives favor small government...

There is absolutely nothing about conservatism or the republican ideology that would appeal to a racist. Hell, the majority of white supremacists are National Socialists... Do you think National Socialism is in anyway compatible with the republican ideals or conservative philosophy? No?
 
Mr.Nick said:
And in what universe are those idiots conservatives or republicans?

I love how democrats think any white guy who is racist or commits a hate crime is a republican or conservative.

Besides, in what universe is modern racism even remotely politically motivated? back in the day it most certainly was (like I said the KKK was like the ACORN of the south for democrats)...
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I dont recall Acorn ever burning churches, crosses, or murdering white people. So you comparison of Acorn to the KKK is a huge stretch at best. I cannot believe that you say there is no racsim in politics is laughable and sad have you been under a rock the last four years?

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Keep living in that bubble!
 
Mr.Nick said:
And in what universe are those idiots conservatives or republicans?

I love how democrats think any white guy who is racist or commits a hate crime is a republican or conservative.
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Well, aren't they?

Besides, in what universe is modern racism even remotely politically motivated? back in the day it most certainly was (like I said the KKK was like the ACORN of the south for democrats)...
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In your universe, apparently.


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Where America's Racist Tweets Come From - Megan Garber - The Atlantic
 
Fox played a little more of the video today, it looked like the Fox guy actually threw the fat union guy down on the ground and then backed off and waited for him to get up and take another swing (which didn't seem to have much effect).
 
TaraAnne said:
No I am not trying to get a reaction out of you! You are missing the point! The point is if you say something to someone they do not like you have to be ready for the reaction in this case the guy threw a couple of punches. While it may not be right or acceptable to some to other it is perfectly fine!


People in Michigan do not have to join the Union at all they can bargin on thier own. People in Unions pay dues to get go working conditions, wages, and healthcare. They pay for that right. The people that do not pay get a free ride on the coat tails of Union members who pay for representation how is that fair. The workers have a choice that is what you fail to see. Plus the state does not want it. Isnt about what the people want not some politicians who were bought off by a bunch of trust funding billionaires? The great thing is that in two years Republicans will be voted out of Michigan they just sealed their fate with this, and it will have a trickle effect in other state races.

The labor unions are nothing more than an extortion racket. What they do today is no different than what they did when the Italians were running the racket. The Italians would tell a business; "pay us so we don't have to burn your store down."
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No, I'm not missing any point - you're missing the point! The union thug democrat acted like he was 10-years-old.

The idiot punched a guy for holding political views that contradicted his own. Intelligent adults don't do that - what don't you understand about that?

That flippin idiot should be embarrassed over his actions...

The idiot has no damn response to a philosophical question so he gets frustrated and starts throwing blows? In what universe does that peon actually believe he has the right to assault another just because he doesn't have an answer to a goddamn question?
 
Ray410 said:
Fox played a little more of the video today, it looked like the Fox guy actually threw the fat union guy down on the ground and then backed off and waited for him to get up and take another swing (which didn't seem to have much effect).
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Speculation and heresay. Why don't you ask TD how well that holds up in a court of law?
 
Moot said:
Speculation and heresay. Why don't you ask TD how well that holds up in a court of law?
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Are you sure you're matching the right responses to the right posts? Maybe you live in Colorado or Washington?
 
Moot said:
Well, aren't they?

In your universe, apparently.


Warning: graphic language

Where America's Racist Tweets Come From - Megan Garber - The Atlantic
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Please read some history books!

It's common knowledge amongst the educated that the democrats are and were the party of the segregationists/racists - especially in the south.

Hell the KKK only used their methods of intimidation to suppress the republican vote in the south using such tactics as burning crosses and physically attacking republicans (of any race).

Democrats have been evil since day one - progressives are even worse than evil...

Today modern democrats and progressives are still racists - today they hate white male Christians and anyone with money, fat people, smokers or anyone that doesn't "conform" to their pitiful worldview, which makes them biased in that regard. Progressives and democrats always have someone to hate.
 
Moot said:
Speculation and heresay. Why don't you ask TD how well that holds up in a court of law?
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You do realize the whole event was caught on tape?

Apparently you have absolutely no idea what hearsay means. That is quite obvious because you spelled it wrong.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Please read some history books!

It's common knowledge amongst the educated that the democrats are and were the party of the segregationists/racists - especially in the south.

Hell the KKK only used their methods of intimidation to suppress the republican vote in the south using such tactics as burning crosses and physically attacking republicans (of any race).

Democrats have been evil since day one - progressives are even worse than evil...

Today modern democrats and progressives are still racists - today they hate white male Christians and anyone with money, fat people, smokers or anyone that doesn't "conform" to their pitiful worldview, which makes them biased in that regard. Progressives and democrats always have someone to hate.
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<sigh> here we go again. I have read the history books and the Republican party is no longer the party of Lincoln and hasn't been for decades.

Take a good look at this poster and you tell me if today's Republican party is still "for the Negro".


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Mr.Nick said:
You do realize the whole event was caught on tape?

Apparently you have absolutely no idea what hearsay means. That is quite obvious because you spelled it wrong.
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Two false conclusions in two short sentences. Is that a record for you?
 
Moot said:
<sigh> here we go again. I have read the history books and the Republican party is no longer the party of Lincoln and hasn't been for decades.

Take a good look at this poster and you tell me if today's Republican party is still the party of "Negroes".


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The republican party is flawed and divided today but race plays no role in those flaws and the direction the party is headed.

Republicans could care less about race, creed, gender or sexuality - the only ones that do are the neo-cons and the majority of them are big government Bible thumpers who are in the strong minority. However race plays ZERO role when it comes to the philosophy...

It really comes down to weather or not you want a big government when it comes to the republican party, conservative party, classical liberal party, libertarian party etc...

We don't care about trivial issues like race - that's the crap progressives obsess about not us...
 
Mr.Nick said:
Republicans could care less about race, creed, gender or sexuality - the only ones that do are the neo-cons and the majority of them are big government Bible thumpers who are in the strong minority. However race plays ZERO role when it comes to the philosophy...
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Neoconservatives were interested in race, creed, gender, and sexuality, but not necessarily how you think it. Most of the meaningful work done on the subject matter was in terms of specific government policies and their sociological effects. Most neoconservatives doing work on such matters were sociologists or policymakers, and were sons or daughters of immigrants. Most were on the side of the Civil Rights Movement, but uncomfortable with the Black Panthers, were in support of feminism but not radical feminism... These were usually interesting questions to them. The same goes with gender and sexuality, but in those instances, it was largely a dialogue between the counterculture and what they saw as mainstream American values. Now, some of them were religious, but most were not particularly religious. Some made outright gestures to gain the acceptance of the religious Right, but many not so much.
 
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sawyerloggingon said:
These union thugs reminded me of the occupy crowd and this kind of behavior does not help their cause in the least, in fact I would say they are shooting themselves in the foot if not the head.
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...and, of course, you voiced similar distain for the racists and bigots that hung out out tea party rallies, because, after all, the actions of the few in a crowd speak for the crowd as a whole.....
 
Mr.Nick said:
The republican party is flawed and divided today but race plays no role in those flaws and the direction the party is headed.

Republicans could care less about race, creed, gender or sexuality - the only ones that do are the neo-cons and the majority of them are big government Bible thumpers who are in the strong minority. However race plays ZERO role when it comes to the philosophy...

It really comes down to weather or not you want a big government when it comes to the republican party, conservative party, classical liberal party, libertarian party etc...

We don't care about trivial issues like race - that's the crap progressives obsess about not us...
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Republicans care enough to try disenfranchise black voters with voter suppression laws.

BTW, it's obvious you haven't a clue what yer talkin about because you spelled "whether" wrong. Touché lol
 
Fiddytree said:
Neoconservatives were interested in race, creed, gender, and sexuality, but not necessarily how you think it. Most of the meaningful work done on the subject matter was in terms of specific government policies and their sociological effects. Most neoconservatives doing work on such matters were sociologists or policymakers, and were sons or daughters of immigrants. These were usually interesting questions to them. The same goes with gender and sexuality, but in those instances, it was largely a dialogue between the counterculture and what they saw as mainstream American values. Now, some of them were religious, but most were not particularly religious. Some made outright gestures to gain the acceptance of the religious Right, but many not so much.
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I totally agree...

Of course these issues are relevant, however they're not at the forefront of the republican/conservative philosophy. Honestly, these social issues wouldn't even be an issue if democrats didn't make them an issue.

Morals and ethics have been debated for a long time - but it is all philosophy, but I suppose people vote with their morals, and I can't blame them. We're all taught different angles, and there are 300,000,000 different opinions in the United States and the majority of them are based on morals... That is one of the biggest problems today. People need to realize the difference between morals and ethics.
 
Grant said:
I'm not sure whether you're joking or not but history clearly shows that it was the Democrats who were, and are, the racists.

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Aw, come on Grant I expected better from you....though I'm not sure why. This is a tired old argument brought up Conservatives who are either in denial or clueless about their own political history.


Southern Democrats started leaving the party in the 1960s because LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act into law. In the 1970 - 1980s the Neo Conservatives left the Democrat party because they thought Jimmy Carter was too weak on military expansion and defense. Why don't you try reading something besides right wing propaganda and revisionist history? That stuff will rot yer brain.
 
Moot said:
Republicans care enough to try disenfranchise black voters with voter suppression laws.

BTW, it's obvious you haven't a clue what yer talkin about because you spelled "whether" wrong. Touché lol
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What voter suppression laws? like having an ID?

People should need an ID to vote! Whats to stop people from voting millions of times not to mention those ineligible to vote?
 
Moot said:
Aw, come on Grant I expected better from you....though I'm not sure why. This is a tired old argument brought up Conservatives who are either in denial or clueless about their own political history.


Southern Democrats started leaving the party in the 1960s because LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act into law. In the 1970 - 1980s the Neo Conservatives left the Democrat party because they thought Jimmy Carter was too weak on military expansion and defense. Why don't you try reading something besides right wing propaganda and revisionist history? That stuff will rot yer brain.
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Your arrogance is astounding.

I'm getting sick of progressives attempting to re-write history.

Why don't you list some citations of the evil "republicans" have allegedly done or attempted to do instead of claiming you know history (which you obviously don't)...

Sorry but in educated adultland you need to prove your assertions - you just cant assert.
 
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