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Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

Sig said:
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You should rent that....It's about as close to the glory days of the union that you will ever see again....

BTW, Isn't Hoffa in a concrete footer at Giant stadium? Uh huh....Now discuss like a normal person would ya?
 
Just another instance of the right playing up their "union thugs" meme and getting shut down by reality

Fox News’s Steven Crowder fistfight case: No charges

Remember that fistfight on the grounds of the Michigan Capitol involving Fox News contributor Steven Crowder?

Fox host Sean Hannity proclaimed:

Now in just the last 24 hours, for example, Fox News contributor Steven Crowder was beaten by a mob, having been punched repeatedly in the face. Protesters wielding knives, brought down a tent on representatives from the conservative group Americans for Prosperity. By the way, that’s the tent that was housing women and children and old people and bystanders; they were also roughed up. And a Democratic legislator by the name of Douglas Geiss — he declared on the floor of the statehouse, there will be blood, there will be repercussions
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Well, the prosecutor in this case has determined that there’ll be no charges against anyone who popped Crowder on that December day. Ingham County Prosecutor Stuart Dunnings III “will not be authorizing criminal charges in this case,”

“A look at the unedited video, taken in conjunction with the statements of the alleged victim and the alleged assailant, led me to the conclusion that I would not authorize issuance of the warrant,” Dunnings said.
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sawyerloggingon said:
These union thugs reminded me of the occupy crowd and this kind of behavior does not help their cause in the least, in fact I would say they are shooting themselves in the foot if not the head.
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Are you kidding me? progressives and their union thugs love this type of crap.

Don't forget we're talking about communist sympathizers here - how you think they got it done in Soviet Russia circa 1917 with the Red Army and such? brute force and violent revolution. These clowns are no different. They'll slap the hell out of you for not believing them for how gentile they are.

They thrive on this stuff.

They're too stupid to justify their position on an issue so they punch people instead.
 
Excon said:
Wrong!

Wrong!

Apparently you do not know what facts are.
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Since this was a few months ago, you were responding to "Sig" saying that Steven Crowder provoked the violence. You said he didn't know the facts.

Crowder's charges were dismissed because he selectively edited the video to cut out portions which showed him and his crew provoking violence.

I know all you who said Crowder was "viciously attacked by union thugs" want to ignore reality, but look at this: FINAL OUTCOME - CHARGES DISMISSED. This is what people like Crowder and the late Breitbart do. They create a story in which they or the conservative cause is victimized and they report their fabrication as the truth. And you all fall for it. Well, the authorities didn't. Crowder is exposed for the liar he is, but it won't matter, because the truth will be ignored and the fake version of events will be accepted as truth by the brainwashed.
 
Mustachio said:
Since this was a few months ago, you were responding to "Sig" saying that Steven Crowder provoked the violence. You said he didn't know the facts.

Crowder's charges were dismissed because he selectively edited the video to cut out portions which showed him and his crew provoking violence.

I know all you who said Crowder was "viciously attacked by union thugs" want to ignore reality, but look at this: FINAL OUTCOME - CHARGES DISMISSED. This is what people like Crowder and the late Breitbart do. They create a story in which they or the conservative cause is victimized and they report their fabrication as the truth. And you all fall for it. Well, the authorities didn't. Crowder is exposed for the liar he is, but it won't matter, because the truth will be ignored and the fake version of events will be accepted as truth by the brainwashed.
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link?
Yeah. I found nothing on Google or Bing under "Steven Crowder" or "Steven Crowder dismissed".
 
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Excon said:
link?
Yeah. I found nothing on Google or Bing under "Steven Crowder" or "Steven Crowder dismissed".
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Dunnings said in an interview that the video his office originally reviewed on the matter “appeared to have been edited.” A subsequent review of what the prosecutor termed “unedited” video helped the office reach its decision not to proceed with a case.
“A look at the unedited video, taken in conjunction with the statements of the alleged victim and the alleged assailant, led me to the conclusion that I would not authorize issuance of the warrant,” Dunnings said.
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Difficult to dismiss charges that were never filed.

No charges over Fox News contributor’s Michigan fistfight - Salon.com
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Watch the video if you want to see exactly who and what these union thugs are. Don't watch the video if you don't want to face the truth about who you support and who you are.

"A Fox News contributor was punched in the face during a pro-union protest Tuesday in Michigan, one of a series of confrontations between union demonstrators and opponents on the day the state Legislature approved so-called "right to work" legislation that unions oppose."

Read more: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan | Fox News
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Sorry, but none of these FOX anti-american workers making a liveable wage ever proves to the the truth. More lies from the republican right wing media.
 
Excon said:
link?
Yeah. I found nothing on Google or Bing under "Steven Crowder" or "Steven Crowder dismissed".
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Scroll up a couple of posts to sommervilles
 
Redbeard said:
Difficult to dismiss charges that were never filed.

No charges over Fox News contributor’s Michigan fistfight - Salon.com
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Thank you for that.

winston53660 said:
Scroll up a couple of posts to sommervilles
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Thanks.


Somerville said:
Obviously you didn't bother to read the page as your post at #909 was preceded by mine all the way back at #906
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Yep! You are correct.
That is my bad.
I checked this topic the other day and saw nothing. Did a follow up search and found nothing online about the case.

So today when I was quoted, no I didn't bother to scroll up. I assumed and didn't think anything new was there.
So like I said, my bad.

And what he said was wrong anyways.


Again, my bad.
And the last time I am going to make that mistake.



Somerville said:
Just another instance of the right playing up their "union thugs" meme and getting shut down by reality
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No. That isn't the case.
We can see in the unedited video of the incident that it is exactly a union thug.

We knew before Crowder stepped forward to press charges that there was an edited version and an unedited version.
The unedited showed the same thing. Union thugs.
Union thugs tearing down the tent of that they did not like. Thugs period. Not some meme. That is the reality.
We see from other footage of that day the same thug who had unprovokedly swung on Crowder, trying to antagonize Crowder.

So there was no reason for the prosecutor to be looking at the edit footage when we had the unedited footage already.

Something smells fishy.

As Michigan is a very liberal State, especially the city of Lansing, and beholden to the Union, I wonder if this wasn't purely a political decision to not file, as the unedited video shows it was an unprovoked attack.
And although there in no meme getting shut down, I would agree that the political climate is the reality of it.
 
Excon said:
Thank you for that.
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Welcome.

You were more correct than you think. My post was to draw attention to the fact to dismiss a charge a DA must first file a charge. Electing NOT to charge isn't the same as dismissing a charge. So, asking for a link to an actual dismissal of a charge was correct. The link provided by myself showed no charge was filed to be dismissed.
 
Redbeard said:
Welcome.

You were more correct than you think. My post was to draw attention to the fact to dismiss a charge a DA must first file a charge. Electing NOT to charge isn't the same as dismissing a charge. So, asking for a link to an actual dismissal of a charge was correct. The link provided by myself showed no charge was filed to be dismissed.
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Yeah I realized that. But it isn't how I play this game.
I made a mistake and admitted to it.
That is how I roll.
 
Somebody doesn't know Michigan very well

Michigan is a very liberal State
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Republican Governor and Republican controlled state legislature since 2010 that has passed multiple bills aimed directly at workers and the poor.

Study: Michigan among states raising poor's taxes | MLive.com
Michigan is among just a handful of states raising taxes on low-income working families while cutting taxes for other groups, . . . Michigan, New Jersey and Wisconsin all have scaled back tax credits for low-income workers in recent years while cutting business taxes. In Michigan's case, low-income families will see their tax breaks shrink starting next year by about $260 million annually while businesses will get a $1.1 billion tax break starting in January and a $1.7 billion tax break the year after.
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The Governor and the Legislature passed the "Emergency Manager's Act" which says the Governor can appoint managers for towns with fiscal problems. Said managers can do what they want no matter what the residents of the city have voted for - nice democracy you got there boys. In the November elections, the voters of Michigan voted to nullify the Emergency Managers Act, Michigan's toughened emergency manager law rejected | Detroit Free Press | freep.com but the hard right legislature simply passed it again in December, Michigan Lawmakers Approve New Emergency Manager Law - Bloomberg
 
More examples of "Peaceful Protests" by the left.

OWS arrests: 2,500+

Tea Party Arrests: 0
 
neoryan said:
More examples of "Peaceful Protests" by the left.

OWS arrests: 2,500+

Tea Party Arrests: 0
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Being arrested does not equate to criminal behaviour

Charges Dropped Against Many Occupy Protesters Arrested In Oakland « CBS San Francisco

Charges against Occupy Boston protesters dropped - Metro - The Boston Globe

Charges dropped against four Occupy LR defendants

Charges Dropped Against Many OWS Protesters Arrested On Brooklyn Bridge: Gothamist

Sometimes the authorities are on the side of those committing violence: - Rand Paul Supporters Respond to MoveOn Protester by Stomping on Her Head -- Daily Intelligencer

NOT being arrested does not mean there wasn't criminal behaviour
 
Excon said:
link?
Yeah. I found nothing on Google or Bing under "Steven Crowder" or "Steven Crowder dismissed".
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Redbeard said:
Difficult to dismiss charges that were never filed.

No charges over Fox News contributor’s Michigan fistfight - Salon.com
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Sorry, that's what I meant to say, the prosecutor assigned to the case did not press charges against Steven Crowder

It shows exactly what I was saying to Excon previously

Dunnings said in an interview that the video his office originally reviewed on the matter “appeared to have been edited.” A subsequent review of what the prosecutor termed “unedited” video helped the office reach its decision not to proceed with a case.

“A look at the unedited video, taken in conjunction with the statements of the alleged victim and the alleged assailant, led me to the conclusion that I would not authorize issuance of the warrant,” Dunnings said.
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My previous comment stands. Every person in this thread whining about the "union thugs" will conveniently forget what became of this little case. Many of us have been fooled by selective editing from the media, but none of us has any excuse after the media's little tricks have been exposed.
 
Somerville said:
Somebody doesn't know Michigan very well
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iLOL
I would suggest it is you.
As change is slow, just coming around to conservatism does not make the sate any less liberal than it was before.
Are trying to say that the liberal influence is not still there in as great force as it was?
You would be fooling yourself if you think such.

The political influence is still there as well as the Union's influence.




Mustachio said:
It shows exactly what I was saying to Excon previously


My previous comment stands. Every person in this thread whining about the "union thugs" will conveniently forget what became of this little case. Many of us have been fooled by selective editing from the media, but none of us has any excuse after the media's little tricks have been exposed.
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It doesn't show that at all. It shows there is something fishy going on.
We had the unedited version before charges were even pressed/filed/reported by Crowder.
There was no reason for the State to even be reviewing that one.

The full version shows the thug acting out inappropriately in a violent manner.
Other video shows the thug purposely antagonizing Crowder earlier , and of their attempt to take down a tent that did not belong to them.
Those actions are despicable and illegal on their own.

Something fishy is going on.
 
Excon said:
It doesn't show that at all. It shows there is something fishy going on.
We had the unedited version before charges were even pressed/filed/reported by Crowder.
There was no reason for the State to even be reviewing that one.

The full version shows the thug acting out inappropriately in a violent manner.
Other video shows the thug purposely antagonizing Crowder earlier , and of their attempt to take down a tent that did not belong to them.
Those actions are despicable and illegal on their own.

Something fishy is going on.
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Yeah, I'll tell you what's going on, you're missing half of the story. Do you know who you haven't heard from? The people there that day. You haven't heard the story from the gentleman who punched Crowder, nor have you heard Crowder comment on this story since the charges weren't pursued. Don't you think he'd be pretty vocal if the police department was colluding with union organizers? I think a Fox News journalist might have something to say about that.

Read between the lines, man. Crowder's crew wanted to rile up the protestors and see some really crazy stuff go down, so they started arguing with the union guys, then the union guys got "all up in their space," then Crowder and his crew were pushing people, which then caused the punch. Watch the video, read the story, use some of that brainpower. That's what happened. And having worked in television before, I can tell you that what I just said is the truth. That's how the game is played and there isn't anything fishy about it (unless you call misleading your viewers and creating fake news stories fishy)
 
Mustachio said:
Yeah, I'll tell you what's going on, you're missing half of the story.
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No I am not.

Mustachio said:
Do you know who you haven't heard from? The people there that day.
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Yes we have. We herd from the Union thugs in their tearing down of the tent. We heard their threats and intimidation.
And we have heard from those inside the tent, and about the on site vendor who's property that was vandalized by those union thugs.

Mustachio said:
You haven't heard the story from the gentleman who punched Crowder,
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You lost any credibility you may have had by calling him a gentleman, as he certainly was not.
We have seen the unedited tape. He can not justify laying his hands on another person.
We have seen the other tapes where he was the antagonize earlier.
He was no gentleman.

Mustachio said:
Don't you think he'd be pretty vocal if the police department was colluding with union organizers?
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Ah hello!
Who said anything about collusion with police?

Mustachio said:
Read between the lines, man.
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Already have. And apparently it is written in a language that you can not understand.

Mustachio said:
Read between the lines, man. Crowder's crew wanted to rile up the protestors and see some really crazy stuff go down, so they started arguing with the union guys, then the union guys got "all up in their space," then Crowder and his crew were pushing people, which then caused the punch. Watch the video, read the story, use some of that brainpower. That's what happened. And having worked in television before, I can tell you that what I just said is the truth. That's how the game is played and there isn't anything fishy about it (unless you call misleading your viewers and creating fake news stories fishy)
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Wrong.
We can see the videos from that day. You are wrong
Going there to show union thugs acting as union thugs is one thing. Making the accusation that they purposely riled them up is another, and it is a bull**** accusation.
That is you adding unsupportable supposition to your inaccurate reading of between the lines.


And frankly it is ridiculous for you to sit here and say such.
Such behavior is the norm for liberal union thugs when a person shows they disagree with their position. They react aggressively and violently.
They tore down a tent. That is not gentlemanly behavior, is it?
They even know this about themselves. Why do you think they had Union supervisors there to quell any aggression from their members? Because they know it is the norm. Duh!
 
Mustachio said:
Yeah, I'll tell you what's going on, you're missing half of the story. Do you know who you haven't heard from? The people there that day. You haven't heard the story from the gentleman who punched Crowder, nor have you heard Crowder comment on this story since the charges weren't pursued. Don't you think he'd be pretty vocal if the police department was colluding with union organizers? I think a Fox News journalist might have something to say about that.
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Why would the Union thugs say anything? They have an entire liberal machine to stand behind them and re invent the story to their favor...

Read between the lines, man. Crowder's crew wanted to rile up the protestors and see some really crazy stuff go down, so they started arguing with the union guys, then the union guys got "all up in their space," then Crowder and his crew were pushing people, which then caused the punch. Watch the video, read the story, use some of that brainpower. That's what happened. And having worked in television before, I can tell you that what I just said is the truth. That's how the game is played and there isn't anything fishy about it (unless you call misleading your viewers and creating fake news stories fishy)
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:roll: "All up in their space"? Are you kidding here? Who deemed that tent "Union space"? Does the Union own the land that the capitol building is located on?

You are making a false argument. Essentially saying that it is ok to assault anyone you disagree with politically, or even attack them, commit battery on them if you don't like their views...That really a society you want to live in?
 
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