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Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

Chief said:
Except the majority opposes right to work...
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The survey, commissioned by Inside Michigan Politics, showed that 58 percent of likely voters support right-to-work. Opposition among Michigan voters participating in the survey was at 37 percent.
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Most Michigan Voters Think Right-to-Work Is a Winner [Michigan Capitol Confidential]

The poll found a 54% majority said they generally favor right-to-work laws, with 40% opposed.
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Poll finds Michigan voters divided on right-to-work laws; what do you think? | Michigan news | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

As legislators this week sparred over right-to-work legislation in a post-election "lame-duck" session, a new Mitchell Poll shows that a majority (51 percent) of Michigan voters support a Right-to-Work Law. Only 41 percent of the voters oppose it, while 8 percent are undecided.
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Mitchell poll: Michigan voters favor right-to-work, 51-41 | [url]www.michiganview.com | The Michigan View[/url]

Do you EVER have information that substantiates your assertions?
 
Dickieboy said:
Yeah, to cede the 'Leave' expense from the Unions to the employer...



The Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993
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And that Act became law and helped all workers who worked for companies with 50 or more employees instead of just the few union workers whose unions had a collective bargaining agreement that allowed for Family and Medical leaves.
 
waas said:
Your comment is just about as inciting of violence as his. :lol:
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TurtleDude said:
my feelings exactly, yet on a similar thread, several far lefties and justifying union thuggery and warning us that if we don't give into union demands they will revolt

I really want them to, I really do.
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This is the part I just can't understand and have asked several times. How is it that this 'revolt' will promote the Union's popularity? I mean in the private sector they represent a single digit percentage of the workforce. Such revolt, if violent, could be distorted by the media as terrorism which the public has, since 2001, been conditioned to repulse sternly. Are they trying to kill themselves?
 
Every Republican in the Michigan should arm themselves.
 
Dickieboy said:
This is the part I just can't understand and have asked several times. How is it that this 'revolt' will promote the Union's popularity? I mean in the private sector they represent a single digit percentage of the workforce. Such revolt, if violent, could be distorted by the media as terrorism which the public has, since 2001, been conditioned to repulse sternly. Are they trying to kill themselves?
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Well we could certainly hasten their demise if they get violent. America could only be better if the SEIU thugs were no longer
 
TurtleDude said:
Well we could certainly hasten their demise if they get violent. America could only be better if the SEIU thugs were no longer
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Thanks for admitting that you're for violence -- as long as it is directed at working people.

I think that pretty much sums up the tea party and its rightwing thugs.
 
head of joaquin said:
Thanks for admitting that you're for violence -- as long as it is directed at working people.

I think that pretty much sums up the tea party and its rightwing thugs.
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Backing down already...CLASSIC!...:lamo
 
head of joaquin said:
Thanks for admitting that you're for violence -- as long as it is directed at working people.

I think that pretty much sums up the tea party and its rightwing thugs.
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They have shown they are not above it so why should we be?
 
It will be nice to see the union racketeers losing their grip.

But honestly...what's wrong with having a right NOT to join a union? If the hive mentality wants to keep their union, I don't see where this law takes that away from them. So basically, the racketeers would rather enslave those who don't want to be part of a union, than allow for the freedom of choice.
 
A good shoot-out would be healthy and cleansing and we'll finally find out who is in charge around here. This will create jobs as the death toll mounts, bullet holed walls will need patching etc., the dead will have to be replaced, the wounded cared for and this can surely lead us to economic resurgence PLUS it doesn't matter who wins, just that somebody does.
 
justabubba said:
i actually agree with you
folks should not be compelled to pay union dues
but neither should they receive union representation in the workplace
nor should they receive the things the union has already obtained for its represented workforce, such as sick leave, vacation days, family-friendly provisions, objective performance assessments, overtime pay, retirement plans, merit promotions, break facilities, grievance resolution processes, etc.
they should be able to give up paying the cost of union operations ... but to do so they have to also acknowledge their willingness to relinquish their entitlement to any and all of the benefits that have been negotiated for the workforce by that union with which they seek to have no affiliation
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They shouldn't receive any union representation if they don't pay dues, but whatever pay and benefits they negotiate with the company on their own has nothing to do with the union, nor is it any of the union's business.
 
MaggieD said:
I find that disgusting. We live in a democratic nation. If "the majority" wants the state to be Right to Work, then that's what ought to happen. That asshole should be ashamed of himself.
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The majority of Michigans population does not want right to work. But the Koch brothers do! This has nothing to do with workers this has everything to do with a bunch of spineless Rethugs keeping their cushy jobs!
 
There's a lot of what I hope is frustrated tongue in cheek talk here. The times when picking up a gun is the answer are so rare most of us never encounter them in our long lifetimes. Even in those circumstances it's hardly ever the only answer.

The unions began with violence as a reaction to violence directed against them. We're talking guns and clubs, with both sides coming at each other. Some necessary changes were made to our business regulatory structure that would not have been made, at least for decades, if not for that violence.

Same is true of the birth of our nation. However, with each passing decade we tolerate less violence as acceptable. I think that's a good thing.

This is one instance, and the perps should all be arrested and assigned the penalty the law allows. Rinse, repeat for each individual who crosses the line and the folks who just want to have their say, their time on the soapbox are safer for it (as well as the rest of us).
 
Moon said:
They shouldn't receive any union representation if they don't pay dues, but whatever pay and benefits they negotiate with the company on their own has nothing to do with the union, nor is it any of the union's business.
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can't agree
if they disassociate with the union and negotiate their own terms, those terms must be made available to the union


who the hell do they think they are, the NFL owners [/s]
 
TaraAnne said:
The majority of Michigans population does not want right to work. But the Koch brothers do! This has nothing to do with workers this has everything to do with a bunch of spineless Rethugs keeping their cushy jobs!
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Why did they vote down the constitutional amendment promoted by the unions?
 
TurtleDude said:
Well we could certainly hasten their demise if they get violent. America could only be better if the SEIU thugs were no longer
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We would be better off if we declared war on all the lawyers. At least the union workers know how to work!
 
Texmex said:
We would be better off if we declared war on all the lawyers. At least the union workers know how to work!
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Hurts your side more than mine
 
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