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Gay marriage in Washington state: 279 licenses in first six hours

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Hours after Gov. Chris Gregoire signed the voter-approved law legalizing gay marriage, couples officially began receiving state licenses as Washington became the latest state to allow members of the same sex to marry.King County opened the doors to its auditor's office in Seattle just after midnight to start distributing marriage licenses to the hundreds of people who had lined up. By 6 a.m., 279 licenses had been issued.
“We knew it was going to happen, but it's still surreal,” Amanda Dollente told the Associated Press. She and her partner, Kelly Middleton, began standing in line at 4 p.m. Wednesday.

“It seems pretty clear that attitudes toward same-sex marriage in American society are changing rapidly,” Peter A. Brown, assistant director of Quinnipiac’s polling institute said. “While the country remains split on the issue, supporters have come pretty far in the last four years.”
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Read more @: Gay marriage in Washington state: 279 licenses in first six hours - latimes.com

A great victor for this nation! We are moving more forward every year it seems like toward marriage equality amongst all people in this country! Great to hear!
 
279 is quite a bit if I don't say so myself.

I'm still happy Washington legalised it in the first place.
 
Jerry said:
Welcome to the 50% divorce rate, enjoy your alimony payments :2wave:
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Hopefully, they won't project their bitterness onto everyone else.
 
Makes me proud to be a Washingtonian.
 
Jerry said:
Welcome to the 50% divorce rate, enjoy your alimony payments :2wave:
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Haha. I guess it will be interesting to see whether same-sex marriages generally outlast hetero marriages.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Hopefully, they won't project their bitterness onto everyone else.
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I think it's a little to late for that....years to late.

There are 2 silver linings I see here, though, even while the Left doesn't care that 1/2 of these families will fail:
  1. Military members can load their same-sex partner into DEERS, thus giving that serviceman a small raise and their partner access to one of the best health insurance programs in the US.
  2. The Left in DC have one less thing to make slogans about, and the more the Left shuts up, the better.
 
JRog said:
Haha. I guess it will be interesting to see whether same-sex marriages generally outlast hetero marriages.
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Gays have been saying all along that they are in all other way the same as hetero unions, so I don't see why there would be any difference.... unless you're saying gays have been lying all these years...
 
Jerry said:
I think it's a little to late for that....years to late.

There are 2 silver linings I see here, though, even while the Left doesn't care that 1/2 of these families will fail:
  1. Military members can load their same-sex partner into DEERS, thus giving that serviceman a small raise and their partner access to one of the best health insurance programs in the US.
  2. The Left in DC have one less thing to make slogans about, and the more the Left shuts up, the better.
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We'll find something else to not shut up about. :lol:
 
The second reason today to never step foot in the State of Washington.
 
Jerry said:
Gays have been saying all along that they are in all other way the same as hetero unions, so I don't see why there would be any difference.... unless you're saying gays have been lying all these years...
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There is no data on which we can draw as of yet. Any claims made by same-sex couples would be estimations, not lies. Also, with a 50% divorce rate, it's hard to believe that anyone would argue that there is any "sanctity of marriage" these days.
 
JRog said:
There is no data on which we can draw as of yet. Any claims made by same-sex couples would be estimations, not lies. Also, with a 50% divorce rate, it's hard to believe that anyone would argue that there is any "sanctity of marriage" these days.
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Well one thing we can agree on is that gays have no interest in any notion that marriage is sacred. I agree.
 
Jerry said:
Gays have been saying all along that they are in all other way the same as hetero unions, so I don't see why there would be any difference.... unless you're saying gays have been lying all these years...
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In accurate. At present, divorce rates are lower for married gay couples. Why?

The ones who get married in the early rush are couples who have essentially already been married for years (just not legally and without the benefits). Nearly every state where it has been legalized, the first to get married have largely been together for a decade or more.

As it becomes more "normal", you probably will eventually see an equivalent divorce rate. But at present, it is MUCH lower than heterosexual couples. While there hasn't been a full study, estimates are as low as 1% in some states. Again, that will grow over time, but it's low for the moment.
 
Jerry said:
Well one thing we can agree on is that gays have no interest in any notion that marriage is sacred. I agree.
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That's awfully arrogant of you to assume that you know what some people hold sacred.

In fact, it's kinda shamefully rude.
 
FilmFestGuy said:
That's awfully arrogant of you to assume that you know what some people hold sacred.

In fact, it's kinda shamefully rude.
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I'm trying to find common ground here and I feel you're just being hostile with the name calling.

I'm agreeing with JRog, but you only quote me, I assume because he's a progressive and I'm a conservative, even-though we said the same thing together.

Partisan much?
 
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FilmFestGuy said:
In accurate. At present, divorce rates are lower for married gay couples. Why?

The ones who get married in the early rush are couples who have essentially already been married for years (just not legally and without the benefits). Nearly every state where it has been legalized, the first to get married have largely been together for a decade or more.

As it becomes more "normal", you probably will eventually see an equivalent divorce rate. But at present, it is MUCH lower than heterosexual couples. While there hasn't been a full study, estimates are as low as 1% in some states. Again, that will grow over time, but it's low for the moment.
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I love how you have no source material. I'm not asking for it, I'm just noting that you like to make claims without sourcing where you got your information, meaning you just made it up as you made your post. It's good to know for future discussions, I know what quality of debate you want to have.
 
Jerry said:
I'm trying to find common ground here and I feel you're just being hostile with the name calling.
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I don't want to name call, but saying that gay people don't hold marriage sacred is pretty insulting.

Don't make assumptions about things you don't know. If you ask questions, you'll get more positive responses.

But as someone who was married in a church, in front of my friends and family, but who lives in a state that refuses us rights and benefits, to suggest that I don't hold my marriage sacred is just plain rude and presumptuous.

I'll try not to offend - but only in the face of fair discussion, not rude assumptions.
 
FilmFestGuy said:
I don't want to name call, but saying that gay people don't hold marriage sacred is pretty insulting.

Don't make assumptions about things you don't know. If you ask questions, you'll get more positive responses.

But as someone who was married in a church, in front of my friends and family, but who lives in a state that refuses us rights and benefits, to suggest that I don't hold my marriage sacred is just plain rude and presumptuous.

I'll try not to offend - but only in the face of fair discussion, not rude assumptions.
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And again, I'm not the only person who shared that opinion, but you're only targeting me because the other person who said that is Progressive.

This means your post is just to attack a Conservative any way you can, that the argument you use to attack the Conservative is irrelevant, and thus dishonest and not to be taken at face value.

You want to argue against a Conservative just so that you can be seen arguing against a Conservative. You're 'grandstanding'. Win or lose the argument itself, you win just by having the argument because it will get you personal sympathy from your side. The Taliban does the same thing when a lone gunman lets off a few rounds from his house and then flees. His goal wasn't to nuke the convoy or even cause damage. His goal was just to be seen shooting at Americans. It's political. It's propaganda.

Likewise the whole fight over ssm is not to actually improve the marital institution or American lives, it's for the Left just to be seen as sticking up for a voting block, even while nothing is accomplished.

This is why the GOP lost the election, because the Right is focused on results while the Left is focused on appearance.
 
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Jerry said:
I love how you have no source material. I'm not asking for it, I'm just noting that you like to make claims without sourcing where you got your information, meaning you just made it up as you made your post. It's good to know for future discussions, I know what quality of debate you want to have.
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Does gay marriage affect marriage or divorce rates? - Slate Magazine

This at least shows overall divorce rates in states with legal gay marriage; but as I said, I've found no source that actually has a complete study. The 1% comes from something I read on wikipedia, but I don't necessarily put too much clout in that, and even that said "estimate", so I was just saying what it said. But, as you'll note - I wasn't asserting it to be fact.
 
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