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GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees

Carleen said:
One lesson they did not learn... all the House committee chairs are all white men. Not one single woman or minority.
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That's a good point. Leadership positions in the House should be chosen by virtue of their gender and race, not by their qualifications or ability. Judging people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin is racism.
 
cpwill said:
That's a good point. Leadership positions in the House should be chosen by virtue of their gender and race, not by their qualifications or ability. Judging people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin is racism.
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So women and people of color in the GOP are not qualified to lead a committee? Says alot about the GOP
 
Carleen said:
So women and people of color in the GOP are not qualified to lead a committee? Says alot about the GOP
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Yes it does. Explicitly it says that they value capability over pandering. As well they should. Racism and Sexism are destructive and have no place in modern politics. Incidentally, Ambassador Rice is the being looked at for the position of Secretary of State. Can you name the other Secretary of State with the surname of "Rice"?
 
cpwill said:
Yes it does. Explicitly it says that they value capability over pandering. As well they should. Racism and Sexism are destructive and have no place in modern politics. Incidentally, Ambassador Rice is the being looked at for the position of Secretary of State. Can you name the other Secretary of State with the surname of "Rice"?
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Condoleezza, the other Rice that lied.
 
Carleen said:
Condoleezza
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winner!.


And Condoleeza was:

A) a white male
B) a white female
C) a black male
D) a black female thereby indicating that when you implicitly suggest that the GOP for some reason doesn't trust women or minorities in leadership positions you are making a cheap attack that lacks any rational basis, but which serves as cover for the actual sexist/racist position that leadership positions should be determined by ethnicity or gender.

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cpwill said:
winner!.


And Condoleeza was:

A) a white male
B) a white female
C) a black male
D) a black female thereby indicating that when you implicitly suggest that the GOP for some reason doesn't trust women or minorities in leadership positions you are making a cheap attack that lacks any rational basis, but which serves as cover for the actual sexist/racist position that leadership positions should be determined by ethnicity or gender.

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I find it very interesting that all of the committee chair are white men in this day and age. It seems a little out of place.
 
Carleen said:
I find it very interesting that all of the committee chair are white men in this day and age. It seems a little out of place.
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:shrug: I find it completely unremarkable just as I found the fact that Nancy Pelosi has two X chromosomes fairly unremarkable.

are you suggesting that the women and black leadership in the DNC are incompetents who couldn't raise themselves up by their own merits and had to therefore be placed as tokens by other members who were smarter and better than they? Women are too stupid and weak to make it on their own without additional help? I don't buy it.
 
tererun said:
No, the tea party represents the radical religious right. that is a faction that is not only fading, but people are also getting tired of. From personhood amendments, to restriction of marriage rights, to the removal of protections from discrimination, and even right down to being some of the most ignorant fools like bachman and Alan West the tea party is really nothing more than ignorant loud mouth tyrants who want us all to be forced to pray to jesus every day. This is why the tea party only cames in in religious areas, and why they will never be strong. The GOP seems to be pulling away from them. The tea party most certainly is not for the working class as they overwhelmingly vote to remove protections for workers and to allow the rich to take advantage of everyone. it is not terribly surprising considering they were hijacked by people like Rove to be the loud obnoxious arm of the right wing.

Now part of the GOP is realizing if you accept the american taliban into your ranks you have to deal with every crazy thing they say, and you have to continually go more and more right until you are pretty much asking for papers and running anyone who isn't white and christian out of town. Have you ever seen the tea party gatherings? The last time i saw that many pasty white people crammed into one area was a klan video.

Sorry guys, but the tea party is over. They can keep having their meetings and donating to their PACs, but it is all just a method to strip them of their money and power and place it into the hands of the GOP who will be catering to them less and less. But if i am wrong then let us make a law opening up the books of PACs and seeing where their donation monies end up going, and who owns them. personally i would love to see how the tea party ends up ruling. the comedy would be amazing if we could give them some unowned patch of land to destroy. Without any minorities or dems to blame they would turn on themselves. It is part of the blame culture. there will always be problems, but people in the tea party do not want to own up to them so they blame everyone else. Could you imagine screwed up tea party land without an Obama to hate? They would be shooting each other in the streets and starting up purity groups to war with each other. It would look a lot like the middle east.

this is why no one wants the tea party but the tea party. Even the republicans grow tired of their crap.
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This is where some Libbos make themselves look worse tha the Tea Party. Y'all always play the race card. Never fails.

That being said, there's no way that the Libbos, nor establishment Republicans represent the working folks. The working folks didn't vote for Obama. The only folks that voted for Obama are the ones with their hands out.
 
TheNextEra said:
If that were true, then the GOP would have nominated a tea party member to represent them. Guess what, they didn't.
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The GOP wouldn't have. The folks probably, but not The Party. Still too many establishment Republicans who are afraid of the Liberal media.
 
apdst said:
The GOP wouldn't have. The folks probably, but not The Party. Still too many establishment Republicans who are afraid of the Liberal media.
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Well I won't say all people did, but the majority of people wanted Romney that voted in the primaries, so that is what the GOP went with. So in a way, yes the GOP would have had people voted (as a majority) for a tea party member.
 
TheNextEra said:
Well I won't say all people did, but the majority of people wanted Romney that voted in the primaries, so that is what the GOP went with. So in a way, yes the GOP would have had people voted (as a majority) for a tea party member.
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I'll say that Romney looked more like a Tea Partier than an establishment Republican. Let's don't ahead of ourselves, either; it's not like Obama got some gigantic majority of the popular vote and the groups that voted for him in a majority are looking for a handout. It wasn't the self sufficient working folks that voted for Obama. Hence the reason I say that the Tea Party comes closer to representing the working folks than any other political power. Does that speak to the Tea Party's popularity one way or the other? No, it doesn't, but it doesn't take away from from my opinion that their agenda is more in line with the self sufficient class.
 
apdst said:
I'll say that Romney looked more like a Tea Partier than an establishment Republican.
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Then you were duped, because people had Romney pegged correctly as someone who will try to be whatever it takes to get elected, however change afterwords.

apdst said:
Let's don't ahead of ourselves, either; it's not like Obama got some gigantic majority of the popular vote and the groups that voted for him in a majority are looking for a handout. It wasn't the self sufficient working folks that voted for Obama. Hence the reason I say that the Tea Party comes closer to representing the working folks than any other political power. Does that speak to the Tea Party's popularity one way or the other? No, it doesn't, but it doesn't take away from from my opinion that their agenda is more in line with the self sufficient class.
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You're right about Obama, I don't believe that he has a mandate to do whatever he wants. That is why I think he is a lousy leader and didn't vote for him. Like Bush, Obama is a divider.

Sorry, but that simply is not true about people on welfare. I know many self-reliant people that actually pay taxes that voted for Obama. Your hyperbole of everyone voting for Obama being on welfare of some sort is just silly.

In fact I also know some on welfare that voted for Romney. Generalizaions does not equal reality.
 
TheNextEra said:
Then you were duped, because people had Romney pegged correctly as someone who will try to be whatever it takes to get elected, however change afterwords.
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I wasn't duped. I was never impressed with Romney, anyway. I was rooting for Cain and Gingrich.



Sorry, but that simply is not true. I know many self-reliant people that actually pay taxes that voted for Obama. Your hyperbole of everyone voting for Obama being on welfare of some sort is just silly.
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I'm talking about groups taken as a whole, not every single individual.

In fact I also know some on welfare that voted for Romney. Generalizaions does not equal reality.
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Again, there are exceptions to every rule, just like not every black person voted for Obama.

However, every group--blacks, single women, union members, government employees, latinos--as a majority, voted for Obama with one hand, while the other hand is palm up waiting for the hand out that they feel entitled to. There's no escaping that fact.
 
apdst said:
I wasn't duped. I was never impressed with Romney, anyway. I was rooting for Cain and Gingrich.
However, every group--blacks, single women, union members, government employees, latinos--as a majority, voted for Obama with one hand, while the other hand is palm up waiting for the hand out that they feel entitled to. There's no escaping that fact.
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And every corporate CEO, business owner, millionaire, as a majority, voted for Romney for coporate welfare and tax cuts for the wealthy while sticking it to the poor and middle class. There's no escaping that fact

Generalizations are fun! Thank you!
 
TheNextEra said:
And every corporate CEO, business owner, millionaire, as a majority, voted for Romney for coporate welfare and tax cuts for the wealthy while sticking it to the poor and middle class. There's no escaping that fact

Generalizations are fun! Thank you!
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What corporate welfare are you talking about, exactly? "Corporate welfare", is another one of those talking points that is just that, a talking point, because "corporate welfare" doesn't actually exist. Oh, wait, are you talking about the corporate welfare like what Solyndra got??

The difference, that you don't seem to realize, is that corporations actually do something for the economy; entitlement classers don't. Entitlement classers contribute absolutely nothing to society.
 
apdst said:
Right! The 47% that don't have their hand out.
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LOL yea right... those 47% who live in the states who receive the most federal funds right? People in Alaska, Kentucky and all those damn leecher states.
 
PeteEU said:
LOL yea right... those 47% who live in the states who receive the most federal funds right? People in Alaska, Kentucky and all those damn leecher states.
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Those states also have the largest minority populations.
 
tererun said:
GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees - Yahoo! News

Looks like republicans may have had enough from the tea party. Could the republicans be ready to cave and increase taxes on the wealthy? Might we actually get a true conservative proposal involving less spending all around, and some increased revenue from the rich and spoiled? Have the republicans actually learned a lesson from this past election?
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Did they learn from the 2010 election when they overwhelmingly won power back in the House thanks to nutty tea party people focusing on limited govt? Nope, they nominated a moderate and started demonizing libertarians and tea partiers. And they lost.
 
apdst said:
This is where some Libbos make themselves look worse tha the Tea Party. Y'all always play the race card. Never fails.

That being said, there's no way that the Libbos, nor establishment Republicans represent the working folks. The working folks didn't vote for Obama. The only folks that voted for Obama are the ones with their hands out.
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I guess you don't know maqny working people then because i know a whole bunch of them who voted for Obama. You can pretend that it is only the people with their hands out that vote for him, but that is not going to win you an election. if you keep insulting everyone who doesn't make themselves known as a republican you are going to be very small and alone in the future.
 
jonny5 said:
Did they learn from the 2010 election when they overwhelmingly won power back in the House thanks to nutty tea party people focusing on limited govt? Nope, they nominated a moderate and started demonizing libertarians and tea partiers. And they lost.
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Please don't associate yourself with libertarians like that. Admit you are a tea party fanboy. The tea party is not libertarian. They are not even close.
 
SMTA said:
Limbaugh and Beck opinions are irrelevant, as are those of other entertainers.
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Limbaugh has millions of loyal listeners and has proven in the past that he can play a role in the modling of ideologically based opinion in the GOP circles.
 
haymarket said:
Limbaugh has millions of loyal listeners and has proven in the past that he can play a role in the modling of ideologically based opinion in the GOP circles.
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Tommorow he will be the ideological leader of the Republican party. Then the next day he'll be irrelevant again. Depends on the day of the week.
 
tererun said:
GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees - Yahoo! News

Looks like republicans may have had enough from the tea party. Could the republicans be ready to cave and increase taxes on the wealthy? Might we actually get a true conservative proposal involving less spending all around, and some increased revenue from the rich and spoiled? Have the republicans actually learned a lesson from this past election?
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Maybe they have. Their propaganda wing, aka FOXNews, has instructed it's propagandists to stay away from Karl Rove and Dick Morris until further notice. The problem is, if they kick their whackos to the curb, will enough moderates and blue dog democrats be there to fill the void?

One thing for sure, the GOP is in full damage control mode. I look forward to a more practical, honest and sensible GOP to come home to.
 
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