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Walmart workers demand better wages

RLN said:
If Obama would not have extended those tax cuts than Republicans would have never have allowed what Obama wanted and that would include:

  • extends unemployment benefits for 13 months
  • includes a one-year Social Security tax cut, among other measures.
  • the taxes would have affected the middle class too if not signed in it's present state
  • included tax breaks for millions of college students and their families and extensions of the earned income tax credit and $1,000-per-child tax credit.
  • Had Congress not acted to address the expiring Bush-era tax cuts, all Americans would have seen a tax increase on January 1st. (The average tax increase per family, the White House said, would have been $3,000.) Mr. Obama, who had long opposed extending the Bush tax cuts for America's highest-earners, has argued he had no choice but to agree to GOP demands to do so in order to avoid a tax increase on the middle class.
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A, B, C, D, Obama freebees. You gotta love freebees. How much is he increasing our national debt these days?
 
MaggieD said:
I agree with you. I shop on line alllll the time. Never a problem. When they take PayPal? It's a cinch. Amazon's my favorite. I use an Amazon Visa card and get $$ to spend there. Their prices are great. Their delivery is generally two days. Never had a problem. I think that's definitely the wave of the future. And when it becomes more solidly ensconced? Window shopping and the consumerism that generates will disappear. IMO.
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If only they could deliver all groceries through the online experience.
I'd pay a premium for that convenience.
 
MaggieD said:
I agree with you. I shop on line alllll the time. Never a problem. When they take PayPal? It's a cinch. Amazon's my favorite. I use an Amazon Visa card and get $$ to spend there. Their prices are great. Their delivery is generally two days. Never had a problem. I think that's definitely the wave of the future. And when it becomes more solidly ensconced? Window shopping and the consumerism that generates will disappear. IMO.
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no more window shopping? we are all gonna get fat...OTOH, no more grazing at the sample displays...
time to buy stock in UPS and Fedex..
 
UtahBill said:
A. encourages many to not even try to find a job
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Really? Have you ever tried living off of unemployment? :roll:
B. a trifle, at best
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One year?! And you wouldn't take that? I find that hard to believe. :roll:
C. good, that will get them off the couch for a change.
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Sure. It would make them go find that second job that the rich won't supply so that they can hoard their money. :2razz:
D. EITC needs to go away, wages need to go up to make it so. Tuition costs need to go down instead of giving tax breaks for tuition. Child tax credit is means tested, I hope.
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Sure. Tell that to the private sector that has all the money they get to keep in taxes instead of increasing wages and your dream will come true.
E. again good....
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If you don't want your $3,000.00 I'll take it. Millionaires are still ahead of the game once the tax game ends. ;)

Ever watch the old shell game in action? We have taxes, tax brackets, tax exclusions, tax breaks, tax incentives, tax credits, etc. under a bunch of rapidly moving shells, until nobody can know where the pea is......there is a reason these things are so confusing, it is done on purpose, to keep us unaware of what is really going on....whatever the hell that is...
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Yes Sir. I watch Lobbyist groups (Big oil; pharmaceuticals; insurance companies; etc) go in to DC all the time. Best con artists available. :2razz:
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Oh I wish it were here.
I hate the grocery store.
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Most of the time we use Sam's Club in Logan, Utah (no Costco, yet), Costco and Luke AFB when in AZ, Walmart both places, and on occasion some other grocery store that has a good sale on our favorite soda.....
 
Born Free said:
A, B, C, D, Obama freebees. You gotta love freebees. How much is he increasing our national debt these days?
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Not as half as much as the private sector is getting by not paying their fair share of taxes while reporting record profits. :mrgreen:
 
RLN said:
Really? Have you ever tried living off of unemployment? :roll:
One year?! And you wouldn't take that? I find that hard to believe. :roll:
Sure. It would make them go find that second job that the rich won't supply so that they can hoard their money. :2razz:
Sure. Tell that to the private sector that has all the money they get to keep in taxes instead of increasing wages and your dream will come true.
If you don't want your $3,000.00 I'll take it. Millionaires are still ahead of the game once the tax game ends. ;)

Yes Sir. I watch Lobbyist groups (Big oil; pharmaceuticals; insurance companies; etc) go in to DC all the time. Best con artists available. :2razz:
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My approach would cause near riots at local congressman offices, and might force congress to come up with something better than stop gap, duct tape, baling wire approaches to our tax structure....IOW, a little revolution...
 
UtahBill said:
My approach would cause near riots at local congressman offices, and might force congress to come up with something better than stop gap, duct tape, baling wire approaches to our tax structure....IOW, a little revolution...
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I don't know those people are pretty resilient, are you sure that would work?;):2razz::lol:
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I did it, my company's ESPP helped me buy my house. :shrug:
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Long time ago, when you could get 15% on a Certificate of Deposit, I had a coworker who did not participate in our company employee savings plan....we could put in 6% or our income and get 50% matching, so for every dollar I put in, I was credited a dollar fifty, then 15% on that dollar fifty is .225, so I was making 50 cents plus 22.5 cents on each dollar I put in...72.5%........
I asked him if he was saving any money anywhere at all, and he said a banker friend of his was getting him some piddling amount at his bank....
This guy, prior to working where we were, was a math teacher.....go figure....
 
Born Free said:
A, B, C, D, Obama freebees. You gotta love freebees. How much is he increasing our national debt these days?
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Tax cuts count as freebies? Doesn't this fly in the face of the conservative narrative crafted over the last 30 years or so?
 
a351 said:
Tax cuts count as freebies? Doesn't this fly in the face of the conservative narrative crafted over the last 30 years or so?
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After 10 years 'tax cuts' are no longer 'cuts' they are "tax rates"... So an increase of these are purely Obama's tax increase.
 
j-mac said:
After 10 years 'tax cuts' are no longer 'cuts' they are "tax rates"...

So an increase of these are purely Obama's tax increase.
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The poster listed several tax cuts, including the reduced employee FICA contribution, which was initiated by Obama, not carried over from the prior administration, as a "handout", which completely orphans the conservative philosophy on taxation in the present day.

Actually it would simply go down as an expiration of an extension, but I won't venture much further into semantics at this point.
 
RLN said:
Yeah if you can keep up with your bills while investing in that; it must be harder for people part time too. :roll:
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Then, as a good self serving employee, go to school, get a better education that will qualify you for other than minimum wage, figure out what needs to be done to move up the corporate ladder in your own company, reduce your expenses in the interim and that includes such things as starting a family, smoking, a new car, for examples, and look at the job as a step up your own ladder.
 
a351 said:
The poster listed several tax cuts, including the reduced employee FICA contribution, which was initiated by Obama, not carried over from the prior administration, as a "handout", which completely orphans the conservative philosophy on taxation in the present day.

Actually it would simply go down as an expiration of an extension, but I won't venture much further into semantics at this point.
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Oh, my bad....Ok, Yes, I think that Obama screwing the SS system to buy off votes and cynically say he lowered taxes was a complete snow job, and should never have happened.
 
jimbo said:
Then, as a good self serving employee, go to school, get a better education that will qualify you for other than minimum wage, figure out what needs to be done to move up the corporate ladder in your own company, reduce your expenses in the interim and that includes such things as starting a family, smoking, a new car, for examples, and look at the job as a step up your own ladder.
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I can't help but thinking how much that reminds me of reading a cake recipe. How easy.:roll: :lol:
 
j-mac said:
Oh, my bad....Ok, Yes, I think that Obama screwing the SS system to buy off votes and cynically say he lowered taxes was a complete snow job, and should never have happened.
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No real "screwing" of the SS system occurred, rates are set to revert back to the previous mark of 6.2 percent, if the fiscal cliff isn't averted. Not permanent, and certainly not back breaking.
 
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UtahBill said:
Most of the time we use Sam's Club in Logan, Utah (no Costco, yet), Costco and Luke AFB when in AZ, Walmart both places, and on occasion some other grocery store that has a good sale on our favorite soda.....
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In my opinion, the Walmart grocery section stinks.
I use Walmart for some basic household goods, site to store items and some electronics.
 
UtahBill said:
Long time ago, when you could get 15% on a Certificate of Deposit, I had a coworker who did not participate in our company employee savings plan....we could put in 6% or our income and get 50% matching, so for every dollar I put in, I was credited a dollar fifty, then 15% on that dollar fifty is .225, so I was making 50 cents plus 22.5 cents on each dollar I put in...72.5%........
I asked him if he was saving any money anywhere at all, and he said a banker friend of his was getting him some piddling amount at his bank....
This guy, prior to working where we were, was a math teacher.....go figure....
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Some of the smartest people, are the worst with finances.
That's no joke.

Most people at work, don't save a dime for anything.
 
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