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Norway mass killer criticizes prison conditions

jamesrage said:
How is this any less cushy?

Norway killing: Made-to-order cell | News24
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BBC News - In pictures: Breivik's prison

This is a isolation cell.
Norway vows "humane" conditions for Anders Breivik - CBS News
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What exactly would you want for him? You think 24/7 the rest of your life in that is cushy?
 
poweRob said:
What exactly would you want for him?
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The death penalty would be the preferable punishment for him. Life without parole in a real prison would be the 2nd choice.

You think 24/7 the rest of your life in that is cushy?
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1.That is a dormitory not a prison.Any one would find that cushy.

2.Contrary to what scumbag sympathizers have said there is no guarantee he will spend the rest of his life in that dormitory. A country that made 21 years and a minimum time of 10 years the max sentence someone may get doesn't give a rats ass he murder 77 innocent people in cold blood.
 
poweRob said:
What exactly would you want for him? You think 24/7 the rest of your life in that is cushy?
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He only got a 21 year sentence. Given his age, that is unlikely to be the "rest of his life", unless he goes ape **** and kills a guard or something. Then, based on the original sentencing v. # killed, I guess he'd get an extra 3-6 months.
 
jamesrage said:
The death penalty would be the preferable punishment for him. Life without parole in a real prison would be the 2nd choice.



1.That is a dormitory not a prison.Any one would find that cushy.

2.Contrary to what scumbag sympathizers have said there is no guarantee he will spend the rest of his life in that dormitory. A country that made 21 years and a minimum time of 10 years the max sentence someone may get doesn't give a rats ass he murder 77 innocent people in cold blood.
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It's a teeny tiny cell with a bed and a ****ter in it. How would you design in to be less cushy?
 
tessaesque said:
He only got a 21 year sentence. Given his age, that is unlikely to be the "rest of his life", unless he goes ape **** and kills a guard or something. Then, based on the original sentencing v. # killed, I guess he'd get an extra 3-6 months.
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No -- unless the system decides he's still a threat. They can hold him for as long as they like until they decide he's no longer a threat.
 
tessaesque said:
He only got a 21 year sentence. Given his age, that is unlikely to be the "rest of his life", unless he goes ape **** and kills a guard or something. Then, based on the original sentencing v. # killed, I guess he'd get an extra 3-6 months.
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From what I understand, that doesn't mean he gets out in 21 years. I think he just goes up for review which he will most likely be denied.
 
rocket88 said:
There is no TV in that one at least.
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In the top picture it looks like there is a tv or computer on the desk.


Even American prisons look somewhat nice when they're new.
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I doubt they look anything like the top picture.



That toilet seat looks kinda hard and cold.
 
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jamesrage said:
That is the isolation cell.Do you think he will spend his who sentence in a isolation cell.
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They're wary enough of him that he can't shave or brush his teeth unattended, his pens are all of a special sort that can't be made into a shank, and he's subject to daily strip-searches, so -- yeah.
 
jamesrage said:
In the top picture it looks like there is a tv or computer on the desk.





I doubt they look anything like the top picture.



That toilet seat looks kinda hard and cold.
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Check out MSNBC on the weekends. They don't do politics then. It's a serious called Lockup. Those are what solitary cells look like here too.
 
jamesrage said:
That is the isolation cell.Do you think he will spend his entire sentence in a isolation cell?

This is a normal cell in that prison.

Norway killing: Made-to-order cell | News24
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I don't know, perhaps. It doesn't seem like that bad of a cell, but given that the one thing American prisons are good at is turning a minor criminal into a career gangster....
 
As tempting as it might be to criticize their prisons, I think I am going to hold off on doing so until we are able to get our own crime rate as low as theirs.
 
rocket88 said:
I am totally going to commit a crime in Norway....
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No kidding.


Sarcogito said:
As tempting as it might be to criticize their prisons, I think I am going to hold off on doing so until we are able to get our own crime rate as low as theirs.
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Right, but I bet they don't criminalize everything under the sun, either.
 
rocket88 said:
I am totally going to commit a crime in Norway....
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I saw an episode of Lockup and it was about some country in eastern Europe... some former soviet country. It is the place to go. They are really really lax. But their recidivism is ridiculously low too. It was bizarre. Turkey, believe it or not is also rather lenient. Unless you break the rules in prison. Then they have severe prison. They have juvy detention that lets you go out in town as long as you come back and meet curfew... if you don't or you do bad in town while in juvy... you go to Turkish adult prison.
 
....wait until his carcass rots in Jail and plunges into the firery dungeons of Hades. I heard Beelzebubian conditions are appauling, and eternal

He has a palace compared to some of the hotel rooms you can book in Japan

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tessaesque said:
He only got a 21 year sentence. Given his age, that is unlikely to be the "rest of his life", unless he goes ape **** and kills a guard or something. Then, based on the original sentencing v. # killed, I guess he'd get an extra 3-6 months.
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..... This... this is not how the Norwegian system works. When the 21 years are up, he's going under a kind of parole board that assesses whether he should be released or not. Chances are that after killing 60+ kids, he's not going to be freed. Kind of like the Manson family. 1-2 of them go up for parole every few years. None have yet to be released regardless of how much they claim to have changed.
 
Green Balls said:
Perhaps he should have thought the consequences through BEFORE he killed anyone. It's a little late for him to complain about what he is going through now. It's a far cry from all the people who died by his actions.
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You could make the same argument for him. Maybe the progressives went too far over the "liberty line" and his actions were a direct result of their actions?

I don't agree with his actions but I understand his actions. He wanted to be a martyr and to some extent he is.
 
Mr.Nick said:
You could make the same argument for him. Maybe the progressives went too far over the "liberty line" and his actions were a direct result of their actions?

I don't agree with his actions but I understand his actions.

He wanted to be a martyr and to some extent he is.
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And what actions would those have been? What policies enacted in Norway would justify murder of any kind, let alone what actually took place?

He murdered dozens of children in order to somehow encourage the purging of all muslims from Norway. You understand that?

Nope, a martyr would be one who actually underwent persecution or violent opposition. In this case, Brevik simply went about slaughtering innocent youth because the adults wouldn't capitulate to his notions of a pure society. He is in no way, shape, or form, a martyr.

A martyr (Greek: μάρτυς, mártys, "witness"; stem μάρτυρ-, mártyr-) is somebody who suffers persecution and death for refusing to renounce, or accept, a belief or cause, usually religious.
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