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Voting For Obama Keeps Families Away From Each Other For Thanksgiving

This is just so silly. While I'm in line with most of my family politically, I have plenty of friends who are much more conservative than I am. I just don't talk politics with them. :shrug:
 
Only thing that kept my family apart this Thanksgiving was because I had to work. The myriad political positions we espouse (and there are many), have never kept us apart. A family that isn't already problematic wouldn't be divided by something like that.

I can, however, see how really extreme positions could keep a family apart, but probably not things like taxes. A gay teen probably wouldn't want to spend Thanksgiving with family members who will continually attack him for his orientation and proclaim that he is sinful and wrong. No matter what else we have in common, I certainly wouldn't want to spend time with people who keep insisting that I'll burn in hell for not being exactly like them. So it's basically fine except for the douchey religious types.
 
I have plenty of friends who are much more conservative than I am. I just don't talk politics with them.


Because they would easily beat you in a debate using their talking points from Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.
 
The point is they dont pay enough taxes, not their character or willingness to work. It is not even a right or wrong thing with Romney, the Republicans and the 47%. It is, as one would expect, bout the money.

Romney would not have made them earn more money. The most he would have likely done is make more pay more taxes, which would have harmed them, not helped.
 
I completely agree.
Romney would not have made them earn more money. The most he would have likely done is make more pay more taxes, which would have harmed them, not helped.
 
This is just so silly. While I'm in line with most of my family politically, I have plenty of friends who are much more conservative than I am. I just don't talk politics with them. :shrug:

Agreed. All one has to do is find out which ones enjoy debate/teasing and which ones would rather not talk about it at all. As long as those boundaries are respected, it works out OK.
 
Eh truth be told I have done this before, but not on Thanksgiving. I just really don't care about my grandmother, aunts, and uncle's uninformed opinions on politics. They can have their extreme views, but I don't want to talk with them about it.
 
I think this particular election drew battles lines between the 47% and the rest of us. And that was no accident.

Don't forget the 52% and the evil 1%ers. I think there may have been an evil 3% category at one time too. And then there was the men vs women, and the.....and the......and the......
 
Stupid is as stupid does. The ignorance of more and more Americans is shocking not to mention the bigotry and racism.


Well you Democrats made this a racial issue when you nominated a black man to be president.
 
In some circles is it very bitter. Much worse than before the election and in real, personal ways.

It also has affected people's sense of being charitable. A "let the government take care of it now" attitude that many have.

There is an old fella put in a wheelchair permanently after an accident, his wife promptly leaving him. That forced him to sell his house, and rented one in the neighborhood. Other than a daily visiting nurse, all alone day and night. No one really noticed. One day one of the very elderly neighbors saw him on his dock, struggling between trying to hold onto his boat and the dock - him stuck in the middle trying not to fall in. If he had, he'd have drown. That old person got him back on the dock as the boat tried to drift away from the dock, learned his situation, and spread the word. Clearly he was completely isolated and desperately lonely.

So in a sense, without saying to him, people organized to find time to visit, take him boating, shooting, shopping and just hang around watching Tv with him etc. No one had to do that, just did. The neighbors just doing their part at their own time and expense, not really getting anything in return.

After the election one night with a few people over, he commented about Obama winning and "now you people are going to have to pay more for your fair share." When asked what THAT meant (everyone going over has supported Romney), he explained how they have so much and he so little, so they should have to pay more. He was really gloating about, laughing in "us" and "them" terms, in which the people visiting and running him around were "them." How people like them should have to pay more taxes for people like him. They all got up and left. No one visits anymore. Let Obama and the government take care of him.

He now sometimes rolls himself out by the street waving at people as they drive by. People wave back, but don't stop. I wonder if he even understands why? Probably decided they are evil Republicans not doing their duty to him.

We still stop by, but not as often because its just us and him. When he started that up with us, my wife told him if he says another word about it she's leaving and will never come back. I was a bit more blunt: "Shut the f/ck up old man." That he understood. What he said was, "ok, ok, I can respect that."

I'm seeing dozens of variations of how the election has driven hard wedges against people on real, personal levels, not just changes in many employer-employee relationships (including many now ex-employees.)
 
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That's what people are supposed to do now. Pick one of two sides and hate the other. It's the Obama way and a majority of people just voted for this to be the new America.

So this is all Obama's fault as is it his fault that the righties hate him so much they throw out family members? ok...
 
Perhaps the only people arguing about politics at thanksgiving are the ones who ate at their 2nd or 3rd home for dinner.

Seriously, politics never get discussed at any family function I am at. Thanksgiving or otherwise.
 
They can already help themselves, why ignore the people that cannot?

This opens up a rather large discussion. One that I don't feel like starting. Sorry. Just been a long day and not in the mood for long discussions.
 
I think she's speaking of the "freedom loving, god fearing, gun toting, US patriots".

Somehow I think that she's thinking more along the lines of money. But how about we just let her speak for herself?
 
So this is all Obama's fault as is it his fault that the righties hate him so much they throw out family members? ok...

NO it's the Democrats fault for nominating a black man, according to another on this board. How dare they flush all the racists out into the open. They were so comfortable being liars and hypocrits.
 
NO it's the Democrats fault for nominating a black man, according to another on this board. How dare they flush all the racists out into the open. They were so comfortable being liars and hypocrits.

There is no limit to how many bigoted messages Democrats will post like that one ^.

I used to be rather hard core Democrat including on this forum. But the level of bigotry, hatred, snottiness, lack of even basic civility and open contempt of freedom of speech keeps pushing me further Republican. Are there any Democrats left who aren't racists and bigots?
 
There is no limit to how many bigoted messages Democrats will post like that one ^.

I used to be rather hard core Democrat including on this forum. But the level of bigotry, hatred, snottiness, lack of even basic civility and open contempt of freedom of speech keeps pushing me further Republican. Are there any Democrats left who aren't racists and bigots?

Struck a nerve huh?
 
NO it's the Democrats fault for nominating a black man, according to another on this board. How dare they flush all the racists out into the open. They were so comfortable being liars and hypocrits.

To be fair... the guy who said that isn't a serious righty. Which is why he said that.
 
There is no limit to how many bigoted messages Democrats will post like that one ^.

I used to be rather hard core Democrat including on this forum. But the level of bigotry, hatred, snottiness, lack of even basic civility and open contempt of freedom of speech keeps pushing me further Republican. Are there any Democrats left who aren't racists and bigots?


I watched you change. Thing is, you didn't just move over, you jumped over. You skipped the center, center right and went full fledged all the way hard core right. I've watched you go from formulating your own stance to just parroting talking points. It has to be the most bizzare political twist I've seen someone make. Then there's this post, where you claimed to have jumped ship from the left because of their hate and whatnot then call them all racists and bigots. Do you not see the irony of you own words here?
 
I dont even think that the conservatives will even pray for Obama. Their hate is so great.
I pray that the President will make good decisions.
 
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