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Your Star said:
It's sad that the government providing health-care to everyone is the bad guy, and not the guy putting the extra cost onto the people, and the workers.

Though this is an argument for a single payer system as well though.
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Providing health care to everyone is expensive. Just how much do you think an individual Denny's makes in a year?
 
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Henrin said:
Why are you using the words predatory and parasitic interchangeably? You do realize they are drastically different things, right?
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I suspect you are being pedantic for a reason?

I also suspect you fully know that parasites and vultures and predators exist off others and thus they have a commonality that unites them.
 
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haymarket said:
Did you listen to it? Person after person who believes whole heartedly in American capitalism and conservatism finds fault with the predatory business practices that are part and parcel of Romney.

If it is not clear to you - then you will NEVER see it because you chose not to understand.
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Purchasing a business is not parasitic. You are giving the previous owners money and they are giving your the business. How can there be anything parasitic about that? It's a voluntary exchange?
 
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Federalist said:
Purchasing a business is not parasitic. You are giving the previous owners money and they are giving your the business. How can there be anything parasitic about that? It's a voluntary exchange?
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Either you are playing a role here pretending to hear this for the first time with the eyes and ears of the naive or you have obviously NOT read and listened to the links I have provided.
 
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haymarket said:
Either you are playing a role here pretending to hear this for the first time with the eyes and ears of the naive or you have obviously NOT read and listened to the links I have provided.
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It's a simple matter of definition. Parasites don't trade with their hosts. They take from their hosts. A venture capitalist trades money for (partial or complete) ownership of a business. This is not parasitic but cooperative. The seller of the business chooses voluntarily to offer his business in exchange for the money he wants.
 
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Erod said:
Yeah, that healthcare will just be awesome. Ask Canadians, who come here for anything more than a head cold.
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You assume I know nothing of Canada, I would trade the healthcare system we have for the Canadian one in a heartbeat. In fact, I would probably rather live there, too bad the sort of work I do is much worse there due to climate.
 
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Federalist said:
It's a simple matter of definition. Parasites don't trade with their hosts. They take from their hosts. A venture capitalist trades money for (partial or complete) ownership of a business. This is not parasitic but cooperative. The seller of the business chooses voluntarily to offer his business in exchange for the money he wants.
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You are being purposely and intentionally over pedantic. We are NOT writing definitions here. Never were.

Vultures... parasites ....predators .... hyaenas.... they all have a commonality of method and purpose. If you intentionally decide to be blind to that reality in the pathetic attempt to score some point that I am wrong - that is just sad.
 
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Federalist said:
It's a simple matter of definition. Parasites don't trade with their hosts. They take from their hosts. A venture capitalist trades money for (partial or complete) ownership of a business. This is not parasitic but cooperative. The seller of the business chooses voluntarily to offer his business in exchange for the money he wants.
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You are under the delusion that we are talking about science. We are NOT. We are talking about politics.

Parasites.... vultures ..... predators... hyenas .... I really think you are way too smart to not get this.
 
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haymarket said:
You are being purposely and intentionally over pedantic. We are NOT writing definitions here. Never were.

Vultures... parasites ....predators .... hyaenas.... they all have a commonality of method and purpose. If you intentionally decide to be blind to that reality in the pathetic attempt to score some point that I am wrong - that is just sad.
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No, they don't. Vultures feed from carrion. Parasites from living hosts. Hyaenas are scavangers, but also can be predatory.

Calling someone a "vulture capitalist" is saying they find a way to profit from dead things. Don't have a problem with that. Venture capitalists would then be symbiotic parasites and the Gordon Gekkos would be the hyaena.

Lot of difference between the three. I suspect you only have objection to the third sort. Yes?
 
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CalGun said:
Yes in deed. This is what happened to me and my busienss. People stopped coming, couldn't afford it any more, and my employees got unemployment, so did I after closing, the store is still empty but I understand the homeless squat there so I guess you would find that desirable. The traffic I lost helped two neighboring businesses close, the landlord had the center foreclosed on - guess the bank owns it now. Yes in deed the lefts true colors shining through. I use to pay our government about $60k a year in payroll taxes alone - they get jack now because I get zero dollars. I'm fortunate to have squirreled away enough not to be homeless myself, I prepared for it and am fine. I feel really bad for those who got a year of unemployment and still didn't find work - they could care less about health insurance they just want a pay check.
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Am I the only one who noticed Cal wasn't prepared after his business closed (my condolences for that, by the way) and had to rely on a social government program for assistance?
 
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Can somebody post a thread about it when he actually does it in 2014. Until then, it is nothing but posturing.
 
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I don't see how this is going to work. You announce you are going to increase your prices across the board 5%, cut worker hours, and you expect us to feel bad for you? It would have simply worked better from a PR standpoint had you announced that you are going to lay off workers instead of trying to suck in more money from customers at the same time that you remove the vitality of a worker's salary.

All this is going to do is encourage people to not be a paying customer, which makes your 40 restaurants suffer regardless.
 
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haymarket said:
I suspect you are being pedantic for a reason?
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Indeed.

You said the act was parasitic, but then said it was a predatory practice and by doing so made a grave error. In truth, the act is more like a scavenger where it consumes dieing things. A scavenger just so happens to also have a certain predatory nature, but NOT a parasitic nature. Didn't you ever wonder why they call it what they do? In truth, I could of just told you upfront what was wrong with what you were saying, but I decided not too.
 
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Fiddytree said:
I don't see how this is going to work. You announce you are going to increase your prices across the board 5%, cut worker hours, and you expect us to feel bad for you? It would have simply worked better from a PR standpoint had you announced that you are going to lay off workers instead of trying to suck in more money from customers at the same time that you remove the vitality of a worker's salary.

All this is going to do is encourage people to not be a paying customer, which makes your 40 restaurants suffer regardless.
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You'd think he'd be offering a 5% discount to pay for the stents and cardiac care their greasy food causes.
 
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grip said:
You'd think he'd be offering a 5% discount to pay for the stents and cardiac care their greasy food causes.
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No kidding.
 
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haymarket said:
You are being purposely and intentionally over pedantic. We are NOT writing definitions here. Never were.

Vultures... parasites ....predators .... hyaenas.... they all have a commonality of method and purpose. If you intentionally decide to be blind to that reality in the pathetic attempt to score some point that I am wrong - that is just sad.
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Sorry my friend, but words have meanings. You can't call someone a parasite if they purchase something from someone else. That's called cooperation. Mutual exchange. Both parties benefit -- the seller and the buyer, else they would not have made the exchange.

So the business owner sells his business (in whole or in part) to the venture capitalist. The business owner benefits by acquiring money, and the investor benefits by acquiring ownership of the business asset.

There is no parasitism in this scenario; you are imagining it if you see it here.
 
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iguanaman said:
He is going to quickly find that people can vote with their feet too. His customers are going to go eleswhere.
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If everyone else raises their prices too, then what you're suggesting amounts to punishing someone for being honest about their reasons for doing so.

Businesses always pass the costs of government action to the consumers. If you make it more expensive to do business, prices of goods and services go up, basic principle.
 
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Henrin said:
Indeed.

You said the act was parasitic, but then said it was a predatory practice and by doing so made a grave error. In truth, the act is more like a scavenger where it consumes dieing things. A scavenger just so happens to also have a certain predatory nature, but NOT a parasitic nature. Didn't you ever wonder why they call it what they do? In truth, I could of just told you upfront what was wrong with what you were saying, but I decided not too.
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Welcome to the non-committal, squirming world of Haymarket!
 
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Henrin said:
Indeed.

You said the act was parasitic, but then said it was a predatory practice and by doing so made a grave error. In truth, the act is more like a scavenger where it consumes dieing things. A scavenger just so happens to also have a certain predatory nature, but NOT a parasitic nature. Didn't you ever wonder why they call it what they do? In truth, I could of just told you upfront what was wrong with what you were saying, but I decided not too.
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Pedantic was the wrong word.
 
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SMTA said:
Welcome to the non-committal, squirming world of Haymarket!
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actually in my world I know the difference between science and politics. Too bad everybody cannot tell the difference.
 
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Federalist said:
Sorry my friend, but words have meanings. You can't call someone a parasite if they purchase something from someone else.
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Can you name somebody who doesn't purchase from somebody else?
 
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With insurance companies covering kids on their parent's policies up to age 26, how will this affect those businesses that generally hire kids between 18-25. These kids will have insurance, if their parents have it, right? So it might benefit these companies to hire many more kids in that age range just for that purpose. They can work them 40 hours a week, offer them a not so great insurance plan, knowing they will just stay on with Mom and Dad. Nothing to worry about until they turn 26.
 
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Hatuey said:
Can you name somebody who doesn't purchase from somebody else?
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I'm not sure what you're asking.
 
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JayDubya said:
If everyone else raises their prices too, then what you're suggesting amounts to punishing someone for being honest about their reasons for doing so.

Businesses always pass the costs of government action to the consumers. If you make it more expensive to do business, prices of goods and services go up, basic principle.
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Most places I would frequent don't brag about raising their prices no less blame the Govt.
Surely you see that this is nothing but a tantrum from another infantile Right winger who's mad as hell that Romney lost.
I'm still waiting for Ted Nugents reaction. My 2 year old grandson has more coherent thoughts than that man.
 
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Federalist said:
I'm not sure what you're asking.
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It's simple, if purchasing from somebody absorbs you of parasitism, then nobody is a parasite.
 
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