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Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

I believe that they were singing from that same hymnal when medicare was introduced.funny...the world hasn't collapsed so far.:2wave:

And rightfully so, Medicare is holding trillions of debt liability, now how they say it "the chickens are coming home to roost".
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Actually, the powers are split. The articles of confederation failed, and we had to give the federal government more power, and that's not to mention over 200 years of history since then.


You're right, the Federal government powers are in Article 1 Section 8 All other powers are unconstitutional at the Federal level, and left to the States, see 10th Amendment.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

And rightfully so, Medicare is holding trillions of debt liability, now how they say it "the chickens are coming home to roost".

We could make medicare much more efficient by expanding its base,from the elderly and disabled-which it manages to care for MUCH more efficiently than for profit healthcare.

HOW you say? Simple,scrap Obama care and provide medicare for all. Best of both worlds. infuse medicare with a younger and not disabled base,provides affordable healthcare to all of the citizens of this country.:peace
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

because hey, they can offer a million free pizzas for a promotion and the CEO has a ****ing moat around his mansion but he'll be godddamned if he has to help his employees out.


When I read nonsense like this, I can't help bt think how much it shows how desperately poor the american education system is in teaching basic logic/common sense.

Promotions are for increasing revenue, not decreasing it. He's helping his employees out by employing them and by not going bankrupt so they can continue to be gainfully employed. You got 10 likes for a post that translates to "rich person = bad person".
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Actually, the powers are split. The articles of confederation failed, and we had to give the federal government more power, and that's not to mention over 200 years of history since then.

Completely disagree....read the Constitution...those powers given to the Fed are clearly defined...and very limited
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Completely disagree....read the Constitution...those powers given to the Fed are clearly defined...and very limited

If it were as simple as you think, it would be happening.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

If it were as simple as you think, it would be happening.

No it wouldnt....and there are several reasons for it;

The people are too stupid to know better and they are too busy standing around with their hand out and really dont care who fills it....and will vote according to who fills it faster.
The Fed (both Dems & Repubs) are too hungry for power to care
The Feds (both Dems & Repubs) ignore the 10th Amendment continuously

There are more but those are the biggies
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

When I read nonsense like this, I can't help bt think how much it shows how desperately poor the american education system is in teaching basic logic/common sense.

Promotions are for increasing revenue, not decreasing it. He's helping his employees out by employing them and by not going bankrupt so they can continue to be gainfully employed. You got 10 likes for a post that translates to "rich person = bad person".

Ok, that sounds great, but let us explore the reality of all of this rather than turn off our brains. I would have to imaginme someone at Poppa johns figured out the cost to make a pizza would go up 14 cents to provide employees health care. let us think about this. prices go up all the time, and people generally accept it. Let us say without saying anything they decide to raise each pizza by 1 dollar. Most of us are not anal enough to even notice such a shift. So, if they did this they could pay for their employees health care, be the good guys, and make .86 cents more per pizza. Everyone is happy, and if they need to they can always put on some of these promotions to boost sales, as you claim they can afford. So really had they just raised prices they would be making more, doing the right thing by their employees, and people would still be buying their pizzas.

instead the Owner had a spoiled little brat hissy fit and said FU to all of his employees and made a national issue about all of this when he could have been a businessman and made more money. The only reason for him not to boost prices was because he was a spoiled little snot. Had he even raised his prices a quarter he would have still made money, and still no one would have noticed. On top of all of this the prissy little snot tried to promote a big FU to his employees by telling people to support him by buying his pizzas and crapping all over the people who make them. I don't know about you, but i don't consider scat and spit to be special ingredients in my pizza and i sure as hell am not going to piss on his employees for him. Had he just raised his prices and made his employees happy and himself some more money i would not have even noticed. When was the last time you said if only that pizza was one dollar less i would have bought one?

Anyway, screw poppa johns and their crappy pizza. Sorry poppa i actually came from NY and that is not pizza. I will go to the places that quietly raise their prices a dollar and pay the extra.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

No it wouldnt....and there are several reasons for it;

The people are too stupid to know better and they are too busy standing around with their hand out and really dont care who fills it....and will vote according to who fills it faster.
The Fed (both Dems & Repubs) are too hungry for power to care
The Feds (both Dems & Repubs) ignore the 10th Amendment continuously

There are more but those are the biggies

More than that.

States can't handle bigger issues. It truly is more cost effective to have something like FEMA than to have states handling their own disasters (and the same argument can be made with healthcare). In nearly every case from education to healthcare to the environmental concerns most movements have been voter driven. Voters wanting change. Problems states didn't handle well, and voters seeking greater change (that 200 years of history).

It's a we the people thing. ;)
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

More than that.

States can't handle bigger issues. It truly is more cost effective to have something like FEMA than to have states handling their own disasters (and the same argument can be made with healthcare). In nearly every case from education to healthcare to the environmental concerns most movements have been voter driven. Voters wanting change. Problems states didn't handle well, and voters seeking greater change (that 200 years of history).

It's a we the people thing. ;)

Its the "We the People are stupid" thing.

It is in no way possible that having extra hands in the cookie jar is more cost effective...only in Liberal land is that possible.

By your post, are you insinuating that the people of Nebraska dont know whats good for the people of Nebraska....but some stuffed shirt in Washington behind a desk does?
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Its the "We the People are stupid" thing.

It is in no way possible that having extra hands in the cookie jar is more cost effective...only in Liberal land is that possible.

By your post, are you insinuating that the people of Nebraska dont know whats good for the people of Nebraska....but some stuffed shirt in Washington behind a desk does?

It's not a cookie jar. It is effectively handling large problems. And no, no one is insulting Nebraska. On the whole, most likely understand this. You called everyone stupid, not me.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

You're right, the Federal government powers are in Article 1 Section 8 All other powers are unconstitutional at the Federal level, and left to the States, see 10th Amendment.

Getting into the meat now? :)

Don't bother, they just do as they're told to do....
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

It's not a cookie jar. It is effectively handling large problems. And no, no one is insulting Nebraska. On the whole, most likely understand this. You called everyone stupid, not me.

It is a cookie jar...unfortunately that is exactly what it has become. You can use the euphemism - Its the trough to feed the pigs....either way the same thing, there is no effectiveness in it at all.

The majority of people are stupid and it is a direct result of their ignorance.

I used Nebraska as an example, you can place any states name in there as you wish...my intent was that you believe the states dont know what they need and what is in their own best interest but some stuffed shirt pencil pusher in Washington does.

One size fits all laws and regulations do not work, whats good for the people in some areas is detrimental to the people in other areas.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

Getting into the meat now? :)

Don't bother, they just do as they're told to do....

Oh, I know. But it really is just that simple. Only in times of constitution destroying power grabs do meanings of plain language get changed under the false premise, and guise of "general welfare."

When a politician says "I'm from the govt and I'm here to help." RUN
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

It is a cookie jar...unfortunately that is exactly what it has become. You can use the euphemism - Its the trough to feed the pigs....either way the same thing, there is no effectiveness in it at all.

The majority of people are stupid and it is a direct result of their ignorance.

I used Nebraska as an example, you can place any states name in there as you wish...my intent was that you believe the states dont know what they need and what is in their own best interest but some stuffed shirt pencil pusher in Washington does.

One size fits all laws and regulations do not work, whats good for the people in some areas is detrimental to the people in other areas.

Not hardly. The feeding going on is they money politicians take from special interests, usually big business. Hard to make a line between helping people and getting rich. And a government that makes money when they work with business, usually preventing safety regulations. I've always thought many completely miss with the regulations argument.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Not hardly. The feeding going on is they money politicians take from special interests, usually big business. Hard to make a line between helping people and getting rich. And a government that makes money when they work with business, usually preventing safety regulations. I've always thought many completely miss with the regulations argument.


Yes, because that would truly make us free right, unelected agency, after unelected agency all bypassing congress to impose through regulation what the President could never get passed into law....Although I am sure the proclivity in advocation of this could, and would be changed completely 180 degrees should one little letter behind the name be different.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Yes, because that would truly make us free right, unelected agency, after unelected agency all bypassing congress to impose through regulation what the President could never get passed into law....Although I am sure the proclivity in advocation of this could, and would be changed completely 180 degrees should one little letter behind the name be different.

congress doesn't and shouldn't pass every regulation. And frankly, not everything needs to be voted on. The question your side never tackles that I've ever seen is which regulation is not need and why?
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

congress doesn't and shouldn't pass every regulation. And frankly, not everything needs to be voted on. The question your side never tackles that I've ever seen is which regulation is not need and why?

Because it is an impossible task for someone like myself to pour through every regulation. Liberals like you know this so instead of debating the issue on the macro honestly, you chose to use this particular less honest approach....

Suppose I said to you that the entire regulation system in the US needs to be totally scrapped and started over, then said to you, list those which you think we should keep.

What would you say?
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Because it is an impossible task for someone like myself to pour through every regulation. Liberals like you know this so instead of debating the issue on the macro honestly, you chose to use this particular less honest approach....

Suppose I said to you that the entire regulation system in the US needs to be totally scrapped and started over, then said to you, list those which you think we should keep.

What would you say?

If its a task you can't do, how do you even know they are not needed. Remember, you're the one making a claim. If you said it needed to be scraped, you haven to s how why. And that is essentially what you have been doing concerning regulations. You say they are bad, but have nothing on Vichy ones and why.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

If its a task you can't do, how do you even know they are not needed. Remember, you're the one making a claim. If you said it needed to be scraped, you haven to s how why. And that is essentially what you have been doing concerning regulations. You say they are bad, but have nothing on Vichy ones and why.


So you wouldn't answer....Noted.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

So you wouldn't answer....Noted.

Why are you always being silly? I tried to answer you despite the fact that your question has it wrong. If you sad it had to be replaced, I don't have to show anything. What makes it funny is it is exactly the same mistake you're making with the original point. There your complaining about regulations, presenting nothing concrete, and believe the burdens with someone else. The burden for both would be with you. You have show a regulation o regulations that are not justified, needed.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Not hardly. The feeding going on is they money politicians take from special interests, usually big business. Hard to make a line between helping people and getting rich. And a government that makes money when they work with business, usually preventing safety regulations. I've always thought many completely miss with the regulations argument.

"Usually Big Buisness"

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Doesn't seem to me that "big buisness" is the only group spending money on politicians.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

I didn't use the word only.

I just don't want you to go all "It's the corporations meyannn (dirty hippy accent)" on us. Your post was talking about politicians making money off of big buisness. I want you to keep in mind that money is made by ALL parties...and that Unions and Special Interest groups provide a huge flow of cash to politicians as well. Not just those "evil corporations."
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

I just don't want you to go all "It's the corporations meyannn (dirty hippy accent)" on us. Your post was talking about politicians making money off of big buisness. I want you to keep in mind that money is made by ALL parties...and that Unions and Special Interest groups provide a huge flow of cash to politicians as well. Not just those "evil corporations."

Then you would have no problem with spending limits on political campaigns;at state level and national?
 
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