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Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

Honestly I don't care! Lib, con, so called "moderate" "other" or what ever....If he want's to raise the cost of a pizza by 3 cents, or 15 cents isn't going to make one bit of difference to the super bowl party when they place the call....And only if people get mad at his political statement might affect something, but there are 50% that agree with him....Never forget that.


Nope - only about 33% agree with doing away with Obamacare, that is if you wish to believe some liberal polling group. Rasmussen says 50% but then Rasmussen has shown itself to have just a wee bit of bias toward Republicans and their beliefs.
 
:lamo....So don't buy his pie.....heh, heh....Free country...He can do what he want's and that burns you authoritarian wanna be marxists up, makes me laugh.

I'll still buy his pie. Why? Because he never said what it was reported he said. In fact, he said that Papa John's was EXPANDING it's operations, and no, there was not going to be an Obamacare surcharge. I can't believe that this is still even being discussed AFTER the lie was exposed.
 
I'll still buy his pie. Why? Because he never said what it was reported he said. In fact, he said that Papa John's was EXPANDING it's operations, and no, there was not going to be an Obamacare surcharge. I can't believe that this is still even being discussed AFTER the lie was exposed.

He also said that the corporate-owned restaurants have ALWAYS offered health insurance coverage and will continue to do so.
 
I love it when partisan pollies just go ahead and criticize at random without any case.

Nobody says that it isn't his money, but his claim that obamacare will be the cause for him, as the owner of Papa John or whatever, to decrease hours (wages/personnel/etc) at his business is BS and it is unsubstantiated. That being said, i do not agree with obamacare as I have eloquently explained in the post you so willingly cut in half just to get into a polemic you cannot possibly win. But I do not agree or support retarded people who are looking for any excuse to plead sympathy from the people at the expense of his employees.

Its the truth tho...

Anyone working X amount of hours has to have health insurance provided by the employer...Insurance costs us $1300 +/- a month for a family of 5....it was $297 a month but our policy is now not allowed by the guidelines of Obamacare (we had a HSA) but as of January 2013, we must have a government approved health care policy.

Same thing goes with these business'.

Target has cut all full time employees to part time to save the cost and remain competitive in the market place. There are thousands of companies that are either cutting hours or cutting jobs in order to handle the costs of Obamacare rather than raise the prices of goods and services to cover the costs. They cant raise the prices, people dont have the money to buy things now.

Obamacare was done wrong...while it has some really good things in it, there is more bad than good.


And by the way....how do you Obama supporters like being lied to? Does it make you feel all fuzzy and warm inside? Do you have that tingle running up your leg?
What am I referring to?
Obama and the proponents of the HC law insisted it was not a tax the whole time they were putting this thing together and after....they even argued in every State and Federal court it wasnt a tax....but when it get to SCOTUS, they said yes, it is a tax.

Do you kind of feel like that woman when she is told by a guy....dont worry, I wont cum in your mouth.
 
Its the truth tho...

Anyone working X amount of hours has to have health insurance provided by the employer...Insurance costs us $1300 +/- a month for a family of 5....it was $297 a month but our policy is now not allowed by the guidelines of Obamacare (we had a HSA) but as of January 2013, we must have a government approved health care policy.

Same thing goes with these business'.

Target has cut all full time employees to part time to save the cost and remain competitive in the market place. There are thousands of companies that are either cutting hours or cutting jobs in order to handle the costs of Obamacare rather than raise the prices of goods and services to cover the costs. They cant raise the prices, people dont have the money to buy things now.

Obamacare was done wrong...while it has some really good things in it, there is more bad than good.


And by the way....how do you Obama supporters like being lied to? Does it make you feel all fuzzy and warm inside? Do you have that tingle running up your leg?
What am I referring to?
Obama and the proponents of the HC law insisted it was not a tax the whole time they were putting this thing together and after....they even argued in every State and Federal court it wasnt a tax....but when it get to SCOTUS, they said yes, it is a tax.

Do you kind of feel like that woman when she is told by a guy....dont worry, I wont cum in your mouth.

You're wrong on all counts and aside from that, it would be more exciting and real to hold a debate with the common dirt than with you.
 
You're wrong on all counts and aside from that, it would be more exciting and real to hold a debate with the common dirt than with you.
Not only is he full of crap, but in fact Target is one of the few companies that actually offers health insurance coverage to part time employees.
 
Not only is he full of crap, but in fact Target is one of the few companies that actually offers health insurance coverage to part time employees.

Can you link to anything from a Target official indicating this? I've found some information to the contrary. The only information I can really locate stating that they do offer PT health benefits, is a couple of articles listing a few companies that provide PT benefits. But they don't really talk about what those benefits are... For example, is it real health insurance or just a FSA? Can someone working PT and making $8.00 an hour afford the premium of the health insurance? If not, is that really offering health care insurance?

Both companies offer health care insurance to employees, but Target’s is considered more restrictive. Two years ago, Target dropped health care insurance coverage for all part-time workers. By contrast, Wal-Mart makes its medical plan available to all workers, full- and part-time.”
Target vs. Walmart

Target is committed to providing affordable, quality health care coverage to team members and their families. Team members — from executives to hourly team members — can access the same comprehensive health plan options. Eligibility is based on average hours worked, length of service and position.

Additionally, Target offers a Flexible Spending Account for health care, which allows team members to save a portion of their paycheck in a tax-free account to use for eligible health care expenses.
https://corporate.target.com/careers/benefits/health-benefits

Edit:
Finalyl found some information:

The St. Paul union office estimates that Target's hourly employees typically make around $6.75 to $7.25 and that less than half the company's workers are covered by its health insurance plan.

Said Hess, "Two years ago Target started to feel the increasing cost of healthcare coverage. So it raised the threshold for minimum number of hours that have to be worked to between 24 to 28 from 20 hours a week in order to qualify for healthcare coverage."

Which begs the question, how many of their employees actually get the 24-28 hours? As less than half are covered by insurance, I suspect not many.
 
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Which begs the question, how many of their employees actually get the 24-28 hours? As less than half are covered by insurance, I suspect not many.

Not sure how many, but I could well be that many choose not to participate because I'm sure there must be some employee contribution required and ... these are part timers making minimum wage or close to it.
 
Not sure how many, but I could well be that many choose not to participate because I'm sure there must be some employee contribution required and ... these are part timers making minimum wage or close to it.

So, it's really just an empty gesture. I'm more then happy to offer health insurance to people that can't afford it - so won't buy it. I'd also keep them under minimum hours. My wife works at a union retail store. They qualify for family coverage if they work an average of 32 hours / week. Guess how many of the part time employees they schedule for 32 hours per week. That's right. none.
 
Im late on this but according to CNN the cost increase per pizza would have been 15 cents. Thats a real deall breaker for a guy with a private lake and golf course. Hes just playing the game cause hes a sore looser.

WAHHH I didn't get my way. I'll show you boy.
Do the math. .15 per pizza, let's say a location does 1,000 a day average, that's 150 a day, 1050 a week, 5250 a month, 63000 per location. Let's just go ahead and assume a static number, don't know exactly how many Poppa Johns locations there are but let's go with 100 stores, that's 6 million, 3 hundred thousand, and zero dollars additional cost per year at "just 15 cents per pizza" ADDITIONAL COST due to the law.
 
You're wrong on all counts and aside from that, it would be more exciting and real to hold a debate with the common dirt than with you.

Im wrong? Really?

So when all these companies themselves state they are cutting hours and cutting jobs so they dont have to pay health care insurance for workers....they are lying too? Target, Papa John's etc...
So when the HSA account we have is no longer good because it isnt a governmental approved policy...they are lying too?
So when Obama and the proponents of the HC bill stated it wasnt a tax, argued in front of court after court that it wasnt a tax...then they argued to the SCOTUS that indeed it was a tax....Im lying about that too?


Please enlighten me as to what portion I am wrong about.

And the comment common dirt? Interesting... that's the same term your old lady uses to describe your love making skills....actually I believe her exact words were "I could hump common dirt and have more sexual gratification" But then again, it was hard to understand her, her voice was muffled...she was speaking with her mouth full. :2wave:
 
Moderator's Warning:
Let's leave the personal attacks out of the discussions. Stick to the topic and cease with the baiting and flaming.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Moderator's Warning:
Let's leave the personal attacks out of the discussions. Stick to the topic and cease with the baiting and flaming.

I was out of line...I forgot which site I was on.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Not only is he full of crap, but in fact Target is one of the few companies that actually offers health insurance coverage to part time employees.

Target is cutting all FT workers to avoid HAVING to pay for their health coverage. Target Employee Says 8K Full Timers Will Be Part-Time

This means downgrading 8,000 full time employees to part-time status
HR will receive another email within 3-4 months directing stores to reduce current specialist hours to below 32 hours a week. Reason being the company wants to get all the current specs in the company OFF the full time benefits plans to reduce cost. (i.e. health insurance, etc)

Darden Restaurants - owners of Red Lobster and Olive Garden are two major chain restaurants that are also cutting out full time employees and have specifically named Obamacare as the reasoning.
...increasing the number of workers on part-time status, meaning they work less than 30 hours a week. Under the new health care act, companies will be required to provide health care to full-time employees by 2014.
Blog: Sign of the times: Chain cuts hours of full time workers because of Obamacare


PICKET: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare becomes reality - Washington Times - Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare becomes reality

Obamacare is causing Layoff Plans at Top US Companies
The firms include:
Welch Allyn — a manufacturer of medical diagnostic equipment in central New York — which says it will cut 275 employees, about 10 percent of its workforce, over the next three years.
Dana Holding Corp. — a global auto parts manufacturing company — which warned of layoffs due "$24 million over the next six years in additional U.S. healthcare expenses.’’
Stryker — a medical device manufacturer — which plans to close its facility in Orchard Park, N.Y., eliminating 96 jobs in December. They also say they’ll slash 5 percent of their global workforce, about 1,170 positions.
Boston Scientific — a medical device manufacturer — said it plans to cut between 1,200 and 1,400 jobs, while shifting investments and workers overseas to China.
Medtronic — a medical device maker — which cut 500 positions over the summer, with 500 more set to be eliminated by the end of 2013.
Other companies promising job cuts include: Smith & Nephew — 770 layoffs; Abbott Labs — 700 layoffs; Covidien — 595 layoffs; Kinetic Concepts — 427 layoffs; St. Jude Medical — 300 layoffs; and Hill Rom — 200 layoffs.

Among the reasons for the layoffs: increased costs for health insurance and, in the case of medical manufacturing companies, a new medical-device tax.


Mourning in America - Here's Those Layoffs We Voted For Last Night | FreedomWorks
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The CEO of JANCOA, Mary Miller, testified to Congress that Obamacare was a "dream killer", adding that one option she had to consider "is reducing the majority of my team members to part-time employment in order to reduce the amount that I will be penalized."

Kroger

The American retailer in Cincinnati, Ohio recently was reported to be planning a significant slashing of their hourly workers. Doug Ross writes:
Operative Faith (a mid-level manager with the company) reveals that Kroger will soon join the ranks of Darden Restaurants and slash the hours of its non-exempt (hourly) workers to avoid millions in Obamacare penalties.
According to the source, Obamacare could result in tens of thousands of Kroger employees being limited to working 28 hours per week.

This is by no means, meant to be an exhaustive list. But it is meant to provide examples of real companies, real jobs, and real names, soon to be added to the growing list of employment casualties provided by the inevitable implementation of Obamacare.

So yea, all these companies must be lying too...I find it amusing that all these companies are lying about these layoffs....but the man and the cronies who lied to your faces about this Healthcare law arent lying...
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Target is cutting all FT workers to avoid HAVING to pay for their health coverage. Target Employee Says 8K Full Timers Will Be Part-Time




Darden Restaurants - owners of Red Lobster and Olive Garden are two major chain restaurants that are also cutting out full time employees and have specifically named Obamacare as the reasoning.

Blog: Sign of the times: Chain cuts hours of full time workers because of Obamacare


PICKET: Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare becomes reality - Washington Times - Companies plan massive layoffs as Obamacare becomes reality

Obamacare is causing Layoff Plans at Top US Companies



Mourning in America - Here's Those Layoffs We Voted For Last Night | FreedomWorks
JANCOA Janitorial Services

The CEO of JANCOA, Mary Miller, testified to Congress that Obamacare was a "dream killer", adding that one option she had to consider "is reducing the majority of my team members to part-time employment in order to reduce the amount that I will be penalized."

Kroger

The American retailer in Cincinnati, Ohio recently was reported to be planning a significant slashing of their hourly workers. Doug Ross writes:
Operative Faith (a mid-level manager with the company) reveals that Kroger will soon join the ranks of Darden Restaurants and slash the hours of its non-exempt (hourly) workers to avoid millions in Obamacare penalties.
According to the source, Obamacare could result in tens of thousands of Kroger employees being limited to working 28 hours per week.

This is by no means, meant to be an exhaustive list. But it is meant to provide examples of real companies, real jobs, and real names, soon to be added to the growing list of employment casualties provided by the inevitable implementation of Obamacare.

So yea, all these companies must be lying too...I find it amusing that all these companies are lying about these layoffs....but the man and the cronies who lied to your faces about this Healthcare law arent lying...

I believe that they were singing from that same hymnal when medicare was introduced.funny...the world hasn't collapsed so far.:2wave:
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

I believe that they were singing from that same hymnal when medicare was introduced.funny...the world hasn't collapsed so far.:2wave:

I am not certain that they said the same thing, but assuming they did.. Would there be more jobs currently if medicare had never existed, would our debt be as bad, would the states be in better position financially, amongst thousands of other items that may potentially have been better. I don't know. The thing is, neither do you.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

I believe that they were singing from that same hymnal when medicare was introduced.funny...the world hasn't collapsed so far.:2wave:

Dont know about that, Medicare is a totally different animal. I am sure there was an uproar from the opponents, always is. But Medicare was never accused of being responsible for mass lay-offs and employees having their hours cut to next to nothing in order for business to be compliant with the law.

Like I have said, there are some really good portions of this law and some really bad portions, IMO the bad greatly outweigh the good.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Dont know about that, Medicare is a totally different animal. I am sure there was an uproar from the opponents, always is. But Medicare was never accused of being responsible for mass lay-offs and employees having their hours cut to next to nothing in order for business to be compliant with the law.

Like I have said, there are some really good portions of this law and some really bad portions, IMO the bad greatly outweigh the good.


Don t get me wrong, i'm all for trashing the affordable care act,then replace it with something that actually saves money, like Medicare for all/ national healthcare.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

Dont know about that, Medicare is a totally different animal. I am sure there was an uproar from the opponents, always is. But Medicare was never accused of being responsible for mass lay-offs and employees having their hours cut to next to nothing in order for business to be compliant with the law.

Like I have said, there are some really good portions of this law and some really bad portions, IMO the bad greatly outweigh the good.
So you support socialized medicine but not private insurance?
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

So you support socialized medicine but not private insurance?

I support complete and utter reform of the system itself.

I DO NOT support socialized medicine...at the Federal level. If a State independently chooses to have a medical program (like Mass did)...thats the states issue...thats where the power is supposed to be, not with the Feds.

I would also be fine with states promoting their own programs as Mass., VA and some other states have already done.

I am also fine with a state program where all children are covered as long as they are in school....as long as it is a completely state funded and state run program.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

I support complete and utter reform of the system itself.

I DO NOT support socialized medicine...at the Federal level. If a State independently chooses to have a medical program (like Mass did)...thats the states issue...thats where the power is supposed to be, not with the Feds.

I would also be fine with states promoting their own programs as Mass., VA and some other states have already done.

I am also fine with a state program where all children are covered as long as they are in school....as long as it is a completely state funded and state run program.

But you get that it's still socialism if a state implements single-payer, right? Well ... not necessarily, but to the same extent that it would be if it was done a national level.
 
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But you get that it's still socialism if a state implements single-payer, right? Well ... not necessarily, but to the same extent that it would be if it was done a national level.

It is not really SOCIALISM. But if you call it such names on the national level, they would still apply at the state level.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

But you get that it's still socialism if a state implements single-payer, right? Well ... not necessarily, but to the same extent that it would be if it was done a national level.

Its all about Constitutional powers.

The majority of Conservatives I know are not against these programs, they are against them being done at the Federal level because there are no Constitutional powers allowing it. Now the states on the other hand is a different story, the states know what best suits them, much more than some stuffed shirt bureaucratic pencil pusher in Washington DC does.

The Federal government was intended to have only those powers specifically listed in the Constitution, not those powers they assume and grab.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

It is not really SOCIALISM. But if you call it such names on the national level, they would still apply at the state level.

You can call it whatever you want to call it, but the powers are supposed to lay with the states not with the Federal government.
 
Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

You can call it whatever you want to call it, but the powers are supposed to lay with the states not with the Federal government.

Actually, the powers are split. The articles of confederation failed, and we had to give the federal government more power, and that's not to mention over 200 years of history since then.
 
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