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Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

TriCare is awesome. Idk what you're talkin about.

:lamo Yeah. And so long as every problem you have can be cured with Motrin, the Naval medical service is the finest healthcare in the world :mrgreen:

If employers are going to start laying off people because they can't afford the health insurance, then that's good news for me because I already have coverage so the employer won't need to provide any. That makes me a more appealing applicant, and maybe moves me off the short list for lay-offs. It could also mean I can get a slightly higher wage....at least until some woman or minority complains, even-though the employer has to buy their insurance while he does not have to buy mine.

Well you can certainly hope. But it would be rather unfair of you to want more work than your fair share, when that work could go to a black woman with a disability instead.
 
Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

If you live near a VA hospital and are willing to put up with crappy healthcare. No thanks.

What issues do you have with VA hospitals? Are you a physician?
 
Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut

Credit Default Swaps. The banks created a new synthetic market where they packaged together bad debt and sold it to other banks and investors, which essentially removed the risk from their loans. This freed them up to make more and more loans to less and less qualified people. Sub-prime mortgages were handed out by the boatloads. Loans to people who had no business taking out housing loans, much less at the ridiculous interest rates they were being charged. One day the system came collapsing down when people started defaulting on their loans and the market realized that the majority of the CDS's were absolutely worthless.

This was not the only cause of the crisis, but it was the biggest part of it. Though the federal government did play a role, YES, the banks are primarily responsible for the crisis, and we decided to bail their rich asses out.

I believe you were misinformed.

So since these individuals committed fraud, how come they were never charged? It's not like fraud was legal back then.
 
Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

Well you can certainly hope. But it would be rather unfair of you to want more work than your fair share, when that work could go to a black woman with a disability instead.
"Fair share" = whatever I can take, and I'll accept any edge on my competition I can. It's one of the reasons I joined the service in the first place: it looks great on a resume.

So if being on TriCare is another edge, awesome.
 
Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

So then why don't we take the burden off of business and have government run health insurance. And I don't mean socialized medicine. I asked that question earlier in the thread. It's a question, not a statement.

Because if there is any third-party payer who is going to be a worse stand-in for the individual purchaser than an employer, it's the government.

I have government health insurance. It sucks. Oh, it has limitless coverage, I'm sure. If I get really expensive cancer, it will pay for all the third-rate care I can possibly handle. But it's also a bureaucratic nightmare. It took me two years to convince those people that the woman on my marriage certificate who was also listed as the mother of my child was, in fact, my wife. In the meantime, I was trying to dodge thousands and thousands of dollars of bills from having a child which they were obligated to pay for, but refused to do so.

Her father was a retiree, you see... so she had already had TriCare as a secondary.... and once you are already in the system, I mean, you're in the system so, I mean, why would you change... I mean, it's not like you can be both one persons daughter and another persons wife... I mean.... she's already in the system.... you see..... so..... :roll:

THEN they accused me of fraud and threatened me because the hospital had originally billed them for a "Baby Smith" (my last name isn't smith, but I'm using it as a stand-in), and I was trying to claim a child whose first name was not "Baby". You see, "Baby" was already in the system... sooooo...... [/rant].

Where I live, I'm only allowed to use a single hospital, which is about 40 minutes away. If I want to use closer facilities, there is one, but it's for non-emergency healthcare only. So I have to go down to the hospital, get my primary switched over to the closer facility which cannot actually provide anything close to a full range of healthcare, then drive back up to the closer facility, then get the healthcare, then drive back down to the hospital and get it switched back so if there is an emergency or I need healthcare after 1600 or on a weekend I can still get a someone to stitch me back up.

The Hospital is not exactly state of the art. We had a friend have a baby there last July - she got a nice cot, the husband got a stool. There was no air conditioning. We live on a tropical island. Imagine having your child (and then trying to rest afterwards) in 90 degree heat with 100% humidity.

U.S. companies compete with other nations who do not burden their companies with employee healthcare. That seems to me an advantage.

For businesses that is correct. Ditto for the fact that we compete with other nations who burden their companies with a lower corporate tax rate. Less so for the individuals who bear a higher tax burden to pay for an inefficient healthcare system.

*again, putting on my asbestos under wear for asking what might be a naive question*

:) no flame retardation necessary. You are absolutely right that we need to move away from employer-provided health insurance. We just need to move to an actual insurance model of individually purchased health insurance, just like we do for auto, house, and life insurance.
 
Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

"Fair share" = whatever I can take

:( Greedy people like you are what caused our economic problems in the first place.
 
Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

What issues do you have with VA hospitals? Are you a physician?

No, although my college roomate is a doctor who has spent time at one; he's got some pretty bad stories.

My problem with the VA is that it takes forever to get benefits, the care is substandard, and the limited locations are a hindrance and an inconvenience. Oh, you got a job in the wrong town? Sorry former Sgt Bob, you can either drive two hours each way to get healthcare, or just put bandaids on yourself.
 
Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

Businesses will use every loophole they can find and the ones to pay the price will be the employees...IMO more will go without healthcare then ever before....those that had healthcare working full time will be cut to part time and instead of one 8 hr shift the companies can just make that into two shifts and not have to be responsible to pay it...there will be all these ways to get around it.....businesses may not lay off all their employees but will for sure cut back their hrs...what a mess...there had to be another way to do this so it does not hurt everyone that has had insurance before from their employers.
 
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2012: What's an economy? 8% Unemployment... Koooool.... Hey! Where's my free sheet man? Where's Para-sita-claus?

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Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

:( Greedy people like you are what caused our economic problems in the first place.
Being available to work odd hours, weekends holidays is another edge. I made sure to do that one even while I was in unskilled labor right out of high school. I can keep a positive attitude at work, too, that's another edge. I don't do stupid **** to get in trouble or hurt, that's another edge. I'll nominate my employer for an ESGR Patriot Award and score brownie points. Another edge. And now I'm going to have 2 technical degrees to show an employer why I should be chosen over someone else, or not be laid-off while others are.

Evolution proves that nature is brutal competition. Nature doesn't make everything 'fair' (whatever that's supposed to mean), nature has her failures eaten by her winners.
 
Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

Being available to work odd hours, weekends holidays is another edge. I made sure to do that one even while I was in unskilled labor right out of high school. I can keep a positive attitude at work, too, that's another edge. I don't do stupid **** to get in trouble or hurt, that's another edge. I'll nominate my employer for an ESGR Patriot Award and score brownie points. Another edge. And now I'm going to have 2 technical degrees to show an employer why I should be chosen over someone else, or not be laid-off while others are.

:( You are so greedy. How can you possibly want to be productive, when others could be getting the same pay for less work?

Evolution proves that nature is brutal competition. Nature doesn't make everything 'fair' (whatever that's supposed to mean), nature has her failures eaten by her winners.

but...but....but.... that's mean....
 
I'm not asking about government hospitals and the like, I mean health insurance, like an extension of Medicare, instead of employer administered healthcare.

Well I think we pay enough for Medicare, Medicaid, and VA health care that we could combine those programs and have enough to cover the working people who aren't covered. There is a lot of waste and fraud in those systems.
 
I know what you posted and that is what I responded to. I doubt seriously that you are an award winning economist or that you have the resources the CBO has to calculate how Obamacare will effect the economy.

I saw what an abysmal failure TennCare was and in record time. And I think I have a pretty good idea that this, too, will be an abysmal failure and one that brings the economy farther down. You can dout whatever the hell you want to doubt. I've been in the thick of it. You have not.
 
I believe you've been misinformed. If you can explain with some detail how Wall Street did that, and to whose advantage it was, and which laws were broken, you might have a case.

Most people do not understand how Wall Street figures into the American economy. They would completely abolish Wall Street.
 
what is the actual effective rates of each era

if you think 40% isn't bad you should pay the same rates

nothing is more annoying are constant calls from the many parasites for OTHERS to pay more.

What's theirs is theirs. And what's yours is negotiable!
 
Strange how Papa Johns can pay for Universal Healthcare in Britain and Europe, but not in the US... Not very patriotic, is it?
 
until everyone has to pay more taxes when the government spends more, we will get more and more and more government spending because those who aren't paying income taxes are close to having more votes than those of us who do

And that is the truly scary part! I told a friend at work the other day that we already can't out vote them!
 
I really have no problem with Canadian leftist as long as they do not pretend that the reason they don't need a big military is not because the US next door would defend them and the world knows it.

I don't even mind people being critical of the US from abroad. I just think they need to realize the huge military we pay for saves them the need to have one of their own of that size and scale, which in turn, allows them to be able to afford more social spending. I would mind US leftist a lot less if they actually tried to be effective at the state and local levels instead of buying their power in DC. There shouldn't be a mile of difference between environmentalists and conservationists but there is because conservation require boots on the ground outside the beltway and environmentalists do not protect much of anything except themselves.



That is an excellent post.
 
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Which unregulated business are you referring to?

All of them.

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I saw what an abysmal failure TennCare was and in record time. And I think I have a pretty good idea that this, too, will be an abysmal failure and one that brings the economy farther down. You can dout whatever the hell you want to doubt. I've been in the thick of it. You have not.

Let's just wait and see instead of claiming the sky is falling.
 
Let's just wait and see instead of claiming the sky is falling.

Please supply the link to any post I have made that says the sky is falling. I doubt the sky will ever fall, since it is mostly all just empty space. You, sir, are a genuine nut case. You are delusional and need to take your meds.
 
I'm sorry you have a $10 million limit? What kind of plan do you have? Also part of the healthcare act means in 2014 you can get even more benefits out of your HSA.

Its catastrophic plan it takes care of any medical that is over the deductable 100%. It doesnt pay for broken legs and births birth control routine vistits ect. I have that in combination with occupational insurance in case I get hurt on in the line of working for my business. 10,000,000 is a lifetime limit which means once I get to that limit in my lifetime no more insurance. That means something really nasty got me and probably gona buy the farm anyways. Considering inflation of costs its not that much. I take care of anything under looks like $6500 now that I have read it. I can afford more but there are limitations within an HSA. If I was lucky and didnt use the savings up the HSA would actually pay for itself. And if or when I retire I get the proceeds out of the account that are left. And no obamacare as far as I can see is just plain not good for me in any way it does nothing for me. Zero zip nada. If you know what those benifits are do tell cause I really would like to know, cause the way it looks right now I am getting hosed by them. I dont even know if I am going to be able to keep this plan.
 
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