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Denmark to scrap world's first fat tax

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COPENHAGEN — Denmark said Saturday it would scrap a fat tax it introduced a little over a year ago in a world first, saying the measure was costly and failed to change Danes' eating habits.


"The fat tax and the extension of the chocolate tax -- the so-called sugar tax -- has been criticised for increasing prices for consumers, increasing companies' administrative costs and putting Danish jobs at risk," the Danish tax ministry said in a statement.


"At the same time it is believed that the fat tax has, to a lesser extent, contributed to Danes travelling across the border to make purchases," it added.

...Denmark's Confederation of Industries has described as a bureaucratic nightmare for producers and outlets.

AFP: Denmark to scrap world's first fat tax

Translation:

1. Tax increases costs jobs. Think Obama and his taxing the wealthy (job creators), ObamaKare.

2. The nightmare of Red tape kills jobs by increasing costs.

3. Related to businesses... they will move when facing a hostile environment where it makes competing difficult.


Obama welcomes you to Parasite Nation; brought to you by a Amerikan Socialists, Parasites and Ignoramuses.
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Translation:

1. Tax increases costs jobs. Think Obama and his taxing the wealthy (job creators), ObamaKare.

2. The nightmare of Red tape kills jobs by increasing costs.

3. Related to businesses... they will move when facing a hostile environment where it makes competing difficult.


Obama welcomes you to Parasite Nation; brought to you by a Amerikan Socialists, Parasites and Ignoramuses.
Hey! Why are you leaving?
Hey! Why are your firing people?
Hey! How come you increased prices 15%?
Hey! How come you're closing your business?

Parasite Nation comes with consequences.

Commercial Interlude
Support your Parasite Nation.
Demand someone pay for your crap today!
Because... They didn't build that.

Brought to you by the Union Of Soviet Socialists of Amerika.

Legal Disclaimer:
We do not take responsibility
for failures due to socialism.
Next time elect a leader who
can implement the system.
Suckers.

Denmark has a 4.8 unemployment rate and an average tax rate of 40% compared to ours of under 30%. How does being wrong all the time feel?
 
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Denmark has a 4.8 unemployment rate and an average tax rate of 40% compared to ours of under 30%. How does being wrong all the time feel?

Unemployment is higher than that, but that is due to the world wide crisis that started in the US. It is about 6% seasonally adjusted for both men and women. It actually hit just above 2% for men just as the **** hit the fan over in the US.

As for the fat tax.. the idea is great, but the way it was implemented had too many unwanted consequences.... it was simply too complicated, as in it targeted specific fats instead of foodstuff. What they should have done and still might, is to target food stuffs like cola, chips and so on, instead of transfats and what it is all called. The main problem was that the fat tax also hit stable traditional danish foods, which pissed off people.
 
As for the fat tax.. the idea is great, but the way it was implemented had too many unwanted consequences.... it was simply too complicated...

1. Unemployment in DK is 8.3% as of Nov. 9, 2012.

2. ROTFLOL... what does Parasite Nation do but make life perversely complicated. They create a huge bureaucracy... which empowers Parasite Nation.

3. Parasite Nation likes to tell you what to do because you are too stupid.

4. I don't want to hear any supporters of Parasite Nation tell me taxes do not suppress activity.

5. "the way it was implemented"... is a typical Parasite Nation cop out... they want to have people believe it really, really works... we just had the wrong leader... (the disclaimer was way ahead of you...)

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a fat tax is an incredibly stupid idea.

if being morbidly obese , having heart problem, diabetes, and a whole host of physical problems isn't enough to deter people from stuffing sweets down their gullet.. a tax isn't going to either.
 
I suppose my source was wrong but apparently so was yours. 6.3% offical is what I'm going with now. Still, a silly fat tax isn't what holds Denmark back.
 
I suppose my source was wrong but apparently so was yours. 6.3% offical is what I'm going with now. Still, a silly fat tax isn't what holds Denmark back.

What held Denmark back was never the point. But is a good attempt at deflection. Be honest with yourself now...

The point was these taxes and red tape cost jobs. Take it to a macro level and more taxes (ObamaKare), more taxes on the wealthy (Spread the Wealth Around), more red tape and regulations (Check Obama's last 4-years) costs jobs.

That is the result of Parasite Nation regardless of where it is implemented. We are human after all, and despite Parasite Nation trying to change it by turning government into Para-sita-claus... we first look to our security... in business that means making a profit. When we are profitable we can grow. When someone steals profits it makes it difficult to grow. It makes it difficult to start a business. It makes life more difficult.

That was the point. Parasite Nations costs profits, jobs, and liberty. Quite the trifecta.
 
my hired hand had a bum tooth so I took him to my dentist. I pay cash so I get a discount, however I watched the office ladies open insurance mail, doing the billing and moaning over the mess it was to bill out to so many companies with their different formats.

All of that is to say it appears to me redtape CREATES jobs, least ways the much vaunted private sector redtape does. ;)

Am wondering how long and how many citizens will continue with the parasite nation whine.

Next the rich and or business owners are not job creators- consumer demand does that. If a business owner was making money hand over fist but there was no increase in demand- do you really think he would be wise or prudent to hire on more people just because his profit is increasing?

Or buy another vacation home... :peace
 
Nice but you live in unemployed Spain. Now tell us about that. Yeah.....I'm waiting. :popcorn:

indeed, we dont need to be taking any advice from europe. their entire clusterflup of an economy is on the verge of implosion.
 
my hired hand had a bum tooth so I took him to my dentist. I pay cash so I get a discount, however I watched the office ladies open insurance mail, doing the billing and moaning over the mess it was to bill out to so many companies with their different formats.

All of that is to say it appears to me redtape CREATES jobs, least ways the much vaunted private sector redtape does. ;)

Am wondering how long and how many citizens will continue with the parasite nation whine.

Next the rich and or business owners are not job creators- consumer demand does that. If a business owner was making money hand over fist but there was no increase in demand- do you really think he would be wise or prudent to hire on more people just because his profit is increasing?

Or buy another vacation home... :peace
Consumer demand does not create jobs. It makes a void in the marketplace that someone has to figure out how to fill. There is a demand in the US for vacations on the Moon; however no one can do it for the right price. If the price were 10k per person to vacation on the moon, you can bet your bottom dollar people will be vacationing on the moon. It takes an entrepreneur to develop the product or service for the consumers. His risk will create at least one job if not many. Business owners create jobs.
 
Wrong-
we are a consumer driven economy. If not one guy who can talk a bank or group of private investors into bankrolling his idea then there will be another. Few 'businessmen' put their cash on the line- hence the huge panty wad over solar companies getting loans.

But without the demand the 'Job Creator' creates no jobs. If the 'Job Creator' can make more money playing the market vs hiring more people to make more buggy whips... he creates no new jobs.

You acknowledged consumer demand must exist PRIOR to any 'Job Creator' making a move yet refuse to see the demand MUST exist prior to any job being created.
 
Wrong-
we are a consumer driven economy. If not one guy who can talk a bank or group of private investors into bankrolling his idea then there will be another. Few 'businessmen' put their cash on the line- hence the huge panty wad over solar companies getting loans.

But without the demand the 'Job Creator' creates no jobs. If the 'Job Creator' can make more money playing the market vs hiring more people to make more buggy whips... he creates no new jobs.

You acknowledged consumer demand must exist PRIOR to any 'Job Creator' making a move yet refuse to see the demand MUST exist prior to any job being created.

Does it all go hand in hand?. oxygen, fuel, energy source..................demand, supply, facilitator..sorta
 
Please quote me next time if you want to comment on what I said.
Wrong-
we are a consumer driven economy.
You are correct, we are a consumer driven economy.
If not one guy who can talk a bank or group of private investors into bankrolling his idea then there will be another. Few 'businessmen' put their cash on the line- hence the huge panty wad over solar companies getting loans.
You are wrong...small businesses (the majority of the employment force) have their money on the line. Not the banks, their own.
But without the demand the 'Job Creator' creates no jobs. If the 'Job Creator' can make more money playing the market vs hiring more people to make more buggy whips... he creates no new jobs.
Wrong again. The idea that “playing the market” doesn’t create jobs is absurd. Investing in the market is the same as investing in the economy. The companies who are in the stock market sold off portions of their company to develop and expand. That creates jobs. Investing is a job creating action. Your analogy for buggy whips is also wrong. In your own statement you said our economy is consumer driven. Consumer’s do not want buggy whips for any price therefore no one would create a job making them. It would be the same as me employing someone to measure stop signs. No one wants the information or service, so why would you create the job?
You acknowledged consumer demand must exist PRIOR to any 'Job Creator' making a move yet refuse to see the demand MUST exist prior to any job being created.
I did not say consumer demand must exist to get a job creator to create a job. Some job creators make something the market never knew they wanted. The iPad, the home computer, and 20,000 other devices and services. They create the demand. That makes jobs.
I saw a electronic drink stirrer yesterday. Were consumers freaking out because they didn’t have an electronic drink stirrer? I think not. But someone made one, patented it, and then sold it. He created the demand. That is what good businessmen do. They create a need where there wasn’t one before. Now people want iPads and electronic drink stirrers. Good for them. Go buy a iPad and a electronic drink stirrer. Your demand with others will help create demand which creates jobs.
 
Red tape does create jobs. Jobs that the consumer has to pay for. The dentist has all that extra insurance paperwork to do so he hires another assistant. To cover the cost of the assistant's salary, he raises his prices so that none of the extra cost comes out of his pocket. In the end, consumers pay the bill for most every piece of red tape, new laws and new regulations. It is all pushed down hill until it hits us. Hey, we asked for it and we got it!
 
Red tape does create jobs. Jobs that the consumer has to pay for. The dentist has all that extra insurance paperwork to do so he hires another assistant. To cover the cost of the assistant's salary, he raises his prices so that none of the extra cost comes out of his pocket. In the end, consumers pay the bill for most every piece of red tape, new laws and new regulations. It is all pushed down hill until it hits us. Hey, we asked for it and we got it!

The money that is paid—the wealth that is consumed—to fulfill this red tape, is wealth that otherwise could have been directed in a much more productive direction. What you describe here could fairly be described, I think, as a “softer” version of Bastiat's Broken Window Fallacy.
 
Zimmer taxes are not socialism. Please get that through your brain...
 
I suppose my source was wrong but apparently so was yours. 6.3% offical is what I'm going with now. Still, a silly fat tax isn't what holds Denmark back.

Actually it more likely we both were correct. It all depends on how you count unemployment. The 8.1% number is the one done by Eurostat, which is a method that is standardized across the EU. The Danish number is the more accurate as in it is a very exact number, however it also does not count certain people which the Eurostat does. These people in the Danish number are catagorized in other areas... education, maternity leave and so on. Also the Eurostat number has to take into consideration the different "legal ages" .. some countries have age 15, others age 16 and some even age 18 before they are registered in the system. Unemployment numbers are not always easy to decipher, especially when you include "poll" numbers like the American ones.
 
Small business is defined as 100 to 1500 employees depending on the category of business.

The mostly self funded businesses are called micro or mom and pop.

It is a dodge of the right to use the label small business for micro or mom and pop business.

Most micro and mom and pop businesses struggle and fail, which includes being little more than a hobby, in their first year due to undercapitalization- not much of a job creator if you ask me.

Nit picking the start of a consumer fad doesn't change the facts. If the fad, new toy consumers didn't know they wanted, is not wanted by consumers then no jobs are created. For every winner there are a dozen things consumers didn't know they wanted that stayed just that way.

My point is business isn't the 'Job Creator'- without consumers paying for the new toy there will be no new jobs. All the fancy funding or brave risk taking aside- no line of consumers eager for the product- no new jobs.

Business no more deserves the title Job Creator, than consumers, finance houses, rich parents bankrolling the project.
 
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