CIA Director Resigns

apdst · Nov 10, 2012

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Redress said:
Yes they do, even generals make mistakes, even the great ones. You have read enough military history you should know that. Name a great general, I will name at least one mistake he made.

Winnfield Scott Hancock

Chester W. Nimitz

Lewis Puller

William Halsey

Enjoy!

wolfman24 · Nov 10, 2012

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mac said:
There's nothing wrong with sending email from a govt computer....I haven't seen anything that said anything transpired on a govt computer, though.

Sorry but you are wrong. Personal e-mails from a government owned computer which are loaded with government owned software is a federal offense. I spent eight years in DOD and we got lectured on this every year. If caught you could be dismissed or worse.

Each government (US) computer has a tracking device to make sure this does not happen.

When I became a team leader I was responsible for reporting any such activity to DCIS

KevinKohler · Nov 10, 2012

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You'd think the head of the freaking CIA would be able to bang a chick on the side and keep it secret. I mean, millions of black dudes manage it...

mac · Nov 10, 2012

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wolfman24 said:
Sorry but you are wrong. Personal e-mails from a government owned computer which are loaded with government owned software is a federal offense. I spent eight years in DOD and we got lectured on this every year. If caught you could be dismissed or worse.

Each government (US) computer has a tracking device to make sure this does not happen.

When I became a team leader I was responsible for reporting any such activity to DCIS

Dude, I spent 23 years in the Navy and now work for ONI. It's not illegal to email from a govt computer.

Caine · Nov 10, 2012

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wolfman24 said:
The use of government computers for personal use is a very serious charge and apparently there were a ton of them which as I understand it is how the FBI got involved in the first place.

Dude.... have you ever used a government computer?

The use of government computers for personal use is NOT a very serious charge.......

Its only a very serious charge when it is politically convenient for those in power (im not talking of conspiracy theories in THIS case here, or even national politics for that matter).

Redress · Nov 11, 2012

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zimmer said:
The Clintons had access to 500 RAW FBI files on political opponents.
We know the Clintons lie under oath... both... Hillary on The Amazing Cattle Futures, and Bill was impeached for lying under oath.

Of course they never saw the files ROTFLOL; they were merely found in the WH.

Had Nixon done that he would have been impeached.

You have never seen the White House have you? The place is huge. Being on grounds means nothing.

Redress · Nov 11, 2012

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zimmer said:
Flying three jet airliners into strategic targets in one morning was also considered pretty small.

Oh look, comparing apples and oranges.

Redress · Nov 11, 2012

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mac said:
and you'd see another Executive privledge combined with a metric ass ton of the 5th amendment.

..Subpoena..

Yeah, that is how it is spelled. Could not get close enough for spell checker to make it right.

If that happens, you might have an actual complaint. Now, not so much.

Fiddytree · Nov 11, 2012

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What's funny about this is....his mistress has some very close proximities to me in her background. So close that we apparently were only separated by 10 years :O I was shocked when I found out today.

mac · Nov 11, 2012

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Caine said:
Dude.... have you ever used a government computer?

The use of government computers for personal use is NOT a very serious charge.......

Its only a very serious charge when it is politically convenient for those in power (im not talking of conspiracy theories in THIS case here, or even national politics for that matter).

Or surfing porn and other commons sense no-nos.

mac · Nov 11, 2012

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Redress said:
Yeah, that is how it is spelled. Could not get close enough for spell checker to make it right.

If that happens, you might have an actual complaint. Now, not so much.

I don't know that I have a complaint about it, other than the political bs surrounding it.

sharon · Nov 11, 2012

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grip said:
This whole story sprang out of the the smoke screen originally floated that a demonstrating crowd burned the Embassy. When you start out spinning too quick you wind up back peddling from that point on.

Apparently Ms Bradwell or Broadwell sent emails to another woman.. threatening her if she didn't stay away from the General... and that woman went to the FBI.

nota bene · Nov 11, 2012

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apdst said:
I don't disagree with that and I sure as hell don't blame them; I would use my position in the government to get laid, too--in a heartbeat

However, the part that is fishy, is that powerful men usually do a better job of keeping it under wraps.

Using your position to get laid may be a difference between men and women, LOL, but if Maggie's right and powerful men can't keep their zippers up, it's also true that hell hath no fury like a jealous woman.

Broadwell apparently thought there was another other woman, yet to be identified, and this woman contacted the FBI because she was so frightened.

FBI probe of Petraeus triggered by e-mail threats from biographer, officials say - The Washington Post

One of humanity's classic memes. So tawdry, so predictable. Sad.

grip · Nov 11, 2012

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sharon said:
Apparently Ms Bradwell or Broadwell sent emails to another woman.. threatening her if she didn't stay away from the General... and that woman went to the FBI.

Yeah, but what's suspicious is that the whole affair and it's backdrop of accusations, so far rises only as innuendo and no charges. I'm sure the FBI carry a load of files on all the DC officials, which most Presidents and highly placed officials can use against political opponents. Not saying that's what happened here though I'm sure it has before.

The CIA knew ahead of time that the Libyan Embassy was under threat and had requested protection. I think the Administrations Staff decided to deny the request in hopes that less military or CIA presence would buy them favor with the new ruling Libyans but it was a poor decision that cost innocent lives. Now they're tucking their tails and running in circles trying to obfuscate the truth in hopes the story will go away. How Patraeus and Clinton are mixed up in this I don't know but there's more to it than we're hearing.

j-mac · Nov 11, 2012

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Redress said:
Did you know that they can still issue a supina(however the hell it is spelled)? So much for that nonsense of yours.

And I hope like hell they do, as of now, he doesn't appear on any of the witness listings for the hearings. Explain that?

What crime has he committed? Kicking your asses is not a crime.

I am no lawyer but as a citizen I would place subverting our constitution in direct violation of his oath is one. Another may be in covering up what really happened with Benghazi. Another may be in that cute little stunt he pulled with recess appointments last year....and on, and on, and on....This guy is a liar, and a criminal, and you voted him back in. Great job.

Maenad · Nov 11, 2012

I think we can live adequately without General Betrayus.

Maenad · Nov 11, 2012

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AdamT said:
No, he admitted to an extramarital affair ... which is obviously a huge problem for the chief of the CIA. Presumably it was going to come out and he decided to head it off.

Why do you consider this a 'huge problem?' After all libs argued to the death that Clinton had the right to mess around with anyone he damn well chose even in the closet of the oval office, and it was no one's business.

Sarcogito · Nov 11, 2012

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Top Cat said:
The other take away is that the CIA and the FBI investigate one another. Spy versus Spy.

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Half right. The FBI can investigate the CIA. The CIA cannot investigate the FBI. It has no law enforcement authority.

Maenad · Nov 11, 2012

nota bene said:
Wonder why the CBS guy tweeted this:

CBS’ Mark Knoller tweets that “Senate Intelligence Committee says Petraeus will not testify at next week’s closed hearing on the events in Benghazi.”

Perhaps there is some protocol I’m unaware of, but I don’t see why resigning should affect whether Petraeus testifies or not. He was in charge of the CIA when the Benghazi attack occurred, and the CIA has been under plenty of fire for how the attack was handled.

Petraeus Won’t Testify About Benghazi Attacks Now - By Katrina Trinko - The Corner - National Review Online

I have some experience in government service. Anytime someone gets in trouble they leave. That usually gets them out of the picture because it is their job that is on the line and they have already given that up.

sharon · Nov 11, 2012

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grip said:
Yeah, but what's suspicious is that the whole affair and it's backdrop of accusations, so far rises only as innuendo and no charges. I'm sure the FBI carry a load of files on all the DC officials, which most Presidents and highly placed officials can use against political opponents. Not saying that's what happened here though I'm sure it has before.

The CIA knew ahead of time that the Libyan Embassy was under threat and had requested protection. I think the Administrations Staff decided to deny the request in hopes that less military or CIA presence would buy them favor with the new ruling Libyans but it was a poor decision that cost innocent lives. Now they're tucking their tails and running in circles trying to obfuscate the truth in hopes the story will go away. How Patraeus and Clinton are mixed up in this I don't know but there's more to it than we're hearing.

I don't think there is any question that the general had an affair with that nutjob Broadwell... but I am not sure there is a tie to poor judgment re: embassy security.

However, if Petraius sent her a thousand emails after they broke up that makes him a nutjob as well.

A really messy personal life does not inspire confidence.

Sarcogito · Nov 11, 2012

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wolfman24 said:
Sorry but you are wrong. Personal e-mails from a government owned computer which are loaded with government owned software is a federal offense. I spent eight years in DOD and we got lectured on this every year. If caught you could be dismissed or worse.

Each government (US) computer has a tracking device to make sure this does not happen.

When I became a team leader I was responsible for reporting any such activity to DCIS

You are wrong. I have been serving for the past 15 years and have been working in embassies for the past 10. There are things you cannot do on government computers: surf porn, visit hate sites, visit gambling sites, run a business, or download software. But you can most definitely use it to send personal email or even do some innocuous web surfing. If you are doing it when you should be working, instead of, say, on your break, you might get an ass chewing from a supervisor but it is most definitely not a crime.

Maenad · Nov 11, 2012

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sharon said:
I don't think there is any question that the general had an affair with that nutjob Broadwell... but I am not sure there is a tie to poor judgment re: embassy security.

However, if Petraius sent her a thousand emails after they broke up that makes him a nutjob as well.

A really messy personal life does not inspire confidence.

Like with Bill Clinton!

Winner winner chicken dinner. You got something right!

grip · Nov 11, 2012

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sharon said:
I don't think there is any question that the general had an affair with that nutjob Broadwell... but I am not sure there is a tie to poor judgment re: embassy security.

However, if Petraius sent her a thousand emails after they broke up that makes him a nutjob as well.

A really messy personal life does not inspire confidence.

I agree that though the timing of this is dicey it doesn't necessitate conspiracy with Benghazi. Could be two completely separate issues. The other woman telling the FBI about the affair kind of sounds bizarre now. Too much goofy stuff is going on here and most personal lives are messy if we could look into them all.

sharon · Nov 11, 2012

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grip said:
I agree that though the timing of this is dicey it doesn't necessitate conspiracy with Benghazi. Could be two completely separate issues. The other woman telling the FBI about the affair kind of sounds bizarre now. Too much goofy stuff is going on here and most personal lives are messy if we could look into them all.

The story so far is that the other woman (unidentified) was afraid of threats from this Gmail account that beonged to the general. People with no self control shouldn't have affairs.

grip · Nov 11, 2012

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sharon said:
The story so far is that the other woman (unidentified) was afraid of threats from this Gmail account that beonged to the general. People with no self control shouldn't have affairs.

Rofl,,, people have affairs because they have no self control.

I'd be surprised if we've heard the end of this story by next month.

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