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Greek government defies protests to approve more austerity

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Greek government defies protests to approve more austerity | Reuters

(Reuters) - Greece's government voted by a razor thin margin on Thursday to approve an austerity package needed to unlock vital aid and avert bankruptcy, despite an internal rift and violent protests at the gates of parliament.

Earlier in the evening, clashes erupted when a handful of protesters tried to break through a barricade to enter the assembly. Riot police responded with teargas, stun grenades and, for the first time in an anti-austerity protest here, water cannon.
This is what happens when Socialist promises and their PONZI/MADOFF schemes collapse.

Isn't socialism wonderful. All those meaningless promises that create misery for the masses.

Electing idiots who make moronic promises... eventually has consequences.
 
Socialism is not the problem here. Austerity is. Austerity has been proven in Greece to not be working, yet they keep doing it? Why? Probably to break the backs of working people an that institute fascism, which is on the rise in Greece. That's my guess anyways.
 
I didn't know you were an analyst of the Greek political system, zimmer
I've been following it and laughing when the Germans complain about paying for it. Why complain? It is only an expansion of Sozialmarktwirtschaft... von Bundesweit zum Europa weit (from a national to EU level).


Socialism is not the problem here. Austerity is. Austerity has been proven in Greece to not be working, yet they keep doing it? Why? Probably to break the backs of working people an that institute fascism, which is on the rise in Greece. That's my guess anyways.

Why do they have to employ austerity?
Because their Socialist PONZI SCHEMES failed. Now they want Nikolausi to bail them out.
 
Austerity has been proven in Greece to not be working, yet they keep doing it? Why?

Because they are broke, have no money left & cant get anymore unless they do this.

The only real alternative is for them to leave the euro but that would devalue their economy & hurt even more.

Its what happens when people run out of money.
 
Socialism is the problem here? :lamo :doh Zimmer please read into the Greece crisis and you will find its not "socialism" that is the issue.
 
The Greek government should just turn the money printing presses on high like in this Country. It works great. The problem with people not having enough money is so simplistic to solve. Just print more money. Problem solved.
 
Wow the denial really is a river in Egypt to the resident socialist. Greece has raised its taxes so high the rich have fled. They are soaking the middle class in Greece with huge taxes and they aren't paying them saying they prefer prison. California will soon face this and as California goes so does the nation. Or is it the liberal ideology we will begin preventing where the rich can go now as well as how they spend (donate) their money along with punishing their success?
 
The left's denial of the obvious is beyond staggering! These progressives just don't get it that the nanny state is not a sustainable structure. Taxing the crap out of the rich is the immediate "solution" to these small-brained ones! The Greeks know at this time that they can't print money as their way out... Obama still thinks that he can print money 'til the cows come home and no one will call his hand on it! It didn't happen to Greece overnight and it will be interesting to see how long it takes in the US!
 
The left's denial of the obvious is beyond staggering! These progressives just don't get it that the nanny state is not a sustainable structure. Taxing the crap out of the rich is the immediate "solution" to these small-brained ones! The Greeks know at this time that they can't print money as their way out... Obama still thinks that he can print money 'til the cows come home and no one will call his hand on it! It didn't happen to Greece overnight and it will be interesting to see how long it takes in the US!

The Greeks are primarily the victims of the Euro and the dumb notion that you can have a unified currency without a unified government. In fact the Greeks aren't lazy and it isn't an out-of-control socialist state. In fact the Greeks work longer hours than the Germans. Social expenditure as a percentage of GDP is lower in Greece than it is in Sweden or Germany. They have problems, but the idea that it was caused by socialism is nonsense.
 
Damn lazy Germans dragging the hard-working Greeks' economy down-- that is clearly what is happening :roll:
 
The Greeks are primarily the victims of the Euro and the dumb notion that you can have a unified currency without a unified government. In fact the Greeks aren't lazy and it isn't an out-of-control socialist state. In fact the Greeks work longer hours than the Germans. Social expenditure as a percentage of GDP is lower in Greece than it is in Sweden or Germany. They have problems, but the idea that it was caused by socialism is nonsense.
Yes, to say that a socialist country with a socialist government that follows socialist policies is crumbling due to the failure of socialism would be nonsense....Surely there must be some other cause. Bush perhaps?
 
Yes, to say that a socialist country with a socialist government that follows socialist policies is crumbling due to the failure of socialism would be nonsense....Surely there must be some other cause. Bush perhaps?

... Just so you know.... The PASOK have never been involved in separating religion/government, they don't like NATO or the Euro, they support a pretty economically liberal policies like privatization of major government functions and essentially did what many in the GOP have advocated for, spreading out taxation to the lower classes or reducing it for many (within the last 10-15 years). The party as a whole has pretty much swung to the right side on most economic issues within the last 20 years without much issue.

Furthermore, in Greek politics, they are SOCIAL DEMOCRATS, not SOCIALISTS, much like in Canada but with no social issues involved. They don't advocate state ownership or for that matter proletariat ownership. Au contraire, they've actually been supporting neo-liberal policies for many years now.

In short: If PASOK were American, they'd be Pauligans.
 
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Wow, I gotta admit, all the liberals jumping to defend Greece on it's socialism is a little surprising.... I was hoping the left wasn't so obviously bent on socialism.
 
I'll take the liberty of fixing your post for you:

Wow, I gotta admit, all the people with some culture jumping in to dispute your uneducated assumption surprised me.

I'm not sure why you're surprised about being uninformed about another country's politics. Your learn clearly states Libertarian. You hardly understand the politics of your own country.
 
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This is what happens when Socialist promises and their PONZI/MADOFF schemes collapse.

Isn't socialism wonderful. All those meaningless promises that create misery for the masses.

Electing idiots who make moronic promises... eventually has consequences.

You obviously dont understand what has happened in Greece and in your own country

THe Global financial crisis is a BANKING crisis - not a political one

This is why the so called US capitalist system failed

But as we all know the US is a fascist corpocracy - the ultimate tyranny

Tell me something

WHy did the US government nationalise the US auto industry? Sounds like socialistic corporate welfare to me

lol

Iceland decided to have a vote on whether to bail out the banks - and 95% decided that the banks shoudlnt receive tax payer bail outs

They then jailed the corporate and banking CEOs as well as the corrupt politicians and officials who were involved

Iceland is now doing very well

This is exactly what Greece, Ireland, Italy, the USA and everybody else should have done.

Youre defending the crooks - an illness that has no cure I am afraid

Good luck with the treatment
 
Wow, I gotta admit, all the liberals jumping to defend Greece on it's socialism is a little surprising.... I was hoping the left wasn't so obviously bent on socialism.

The US tax payer provided trillions under Bush and Obama to bail out the Wall street crooks, banksters and corporate failures

THis sounds very much like socialistic corporate welfare doesnt it folks

The US financial crisis was supposedly due to a housing loan bubble that burst. Well you could have cleared ALL the housing loans with about 10% of the what the total bail out money was for the corporate fraudsters. Instead, you provided 10 times the amount in bail outs and gave it to the corporate criminals who caused the crisis in the first place. As well as getting the bail outs, they also received the titles to all the homes and dumped the home borrowers on the street. The perfect crime

In Iceland they actually had a democratic vote, and decided that the banks shouldnt receive one cent in bail outs

The banksters were charged with financial fraud and missconduct and jailed and Iceland is far better off

had enough?
 
Interesting how only the Korean workers can claim to put in more working hours than Greek workers

Well well well, look what we have here - the German and French workers are lagging behind - they dont seem to be putting in their fair share of work hours compared to everyone else. Even the workers in the USA are working harder than the Germans and French

Always beware of what the spin doctors throw at you in the mass media - obviously they are painting a picture of lazy Greeks, Irish, Italians and Spaniards etc whilst heralding the work ethic of the classic German and French worker. Looks like they are trying to disguise what the REAL problem is in some of these countries. We all know what that is dont we.

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... Just so you know.... The PASOK have never been involved in separating religion/government, they don't like NATO or the Euro, they support a pretty economically liberal policies like privatization of major government functions and essentially did what many in the GOP have advocated for, spreading out taxation to the lower classes or reducing it for many (within the last 10-15 years). The party as a whole has pretty much swung to the right side on most economic issues within the last 20 years without much issue.

Furthermore, in Greek politics, they are SOCIAL DEMOCRATS, not SOCIALISTS, much like in Canada but with no social issues involved. They don't advocate state ownership or for that matter proletariat ownership. Au contraire, they've actually been supporting neo-liberal policies for many years now.

In short: If PASOK were American, they'd be Pauligans.
PASOK: Panhellenic Socialist Movement. ( I know, but they are not socialist; just like national socialists arent soicalists and the UNion of Soviet Socialist republics wasnt socialist. Nobody bad is ever a socialist) And the reason they are privatizing and selling government property and 'supporting neo-liberal policies' is because socialism has left them bankrupt.
 
PASOK: Panhellenic Socialist Movement. ( I know, but they are not socialist; just like national socialists arent soicalists and the UNion of Soviet Socialist republics wasnt socialist. Nobody bad is ever a socialist) And the reason they are privatizing and selling government property and 'supporting neo-liberal policies' is because socialism has left them bankrupt.

Incorrect analysis

Corporate Capitalism has left everyone broke except for the fascists who own the tyrannical slave based system

Dont you remember all trillions the US handed out as corporate welfare to the banksters who caused the crisis in the first place? You seem to approve of socialistic welfare for the RICH only - you do realise what sort of person that makes you?

Jesus was a socialist and he was supposedly the son of god - surely you are not suggesting that Christ supports capitalism
 
Incorrect analysis

Corporate Capitalism has left everyone broke except for the fascists who own the tyrannical slave based system

Dont you remember all trillions the US handed out as corporate welfare to the banksters who caused the crisis in the first place? You seem to approve of socialistic welfare for the RICH only - you do realise what sort of person that makes you?

Jesus was a socialist and he was supposedly the son of god - surely you are not suggesting that Christ supports capitalism
There is no way to take a post like this seriously.
 
There is no way to take a post like this seriously.

Thanks for your endorsement

I didnt think you would be capable of mounting an honest counter argument

But then again, its always difficult to argue against the truth itsnt it folks

(you even dispute the nationalising of the US auto industry with tax payers money - at one point the US government was the major shareholder of GM - wonderful US corporate capitalism at its best - for all to see and laugh at)
 
Yes, to say that a socialist country with a socialist government that follows socialist policies is crumbling due to the failure of socialism would be nonsense....Surely there must be some other cause. Bush perhaps?

To say that you have failed to address any of the facts I raised would be an understatement.
 
Always important to keep in mind that there is no way for honest American Conservative posters to know who is behind the names and avatars on here.

The rabid enemies of the American way around the world are on here with the Obama supporters, all disguised and hiding behind the names and avatars that they want you to see. Many attempt to gain credibility and legitimacy by using historical American names and quotes they find or create, while they rail against the country and people that they hate so much and have done so much to destroy.

One thing that they all learned in the last election was that nothing they say has to make the slightest bit of sense. They can post absolute nonsense, making it appear that there actually are supporters of nonsense and they will not be questioned. They find agreement from the rabid Obama supporters who focus and vote entirely on their own personal agendas. As Obama said, they want revenge against you for their own failure, rage and hate.

There is no point in responding to these sorts of people and legitimizing them with a serious response to their nonsense and hate. Think about who they are and what their real agenda is because they are not going to reveal it to you.
 
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Interesting how only the Korean workers can claim to put in more working hours than Greek workers

Well well well, look what we have here - the German and French workers are lagging behind - they dont seem to be putting in their fair share of work hours compared to everyone else. Even the workers in the USA are working harder than the Germans and French

Always beware of what the spin doctors throw at you in the mass media - obviously they are painting a picture of lazy Greeks, Irish, Italians and Spaniards etc whilst heralding the work ethic of the classic German and French worker. Looks like they are trying to disguise what the REAL problem is in some of these countries. We all know what that is dont we.

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The falsity of that chart is how many Greeks don't work at all.
 
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