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Puerto Rico Votes on US Ties

rocket88 said:
"Yep, can't have those brown-skinned people coming in."
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That was proven pretty conclusively in yesterday's election. You can believe that particular fact will be the subject of an enormous amount of discussion in the next four years.
 
rocket88 said:
"Yep, can't have those brown-skinned people coming in."

(Somehow, that's not race baiting)
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I believe it has more to do with the burden they would be than their race. But if you want to see things like that :shrug:
 
rathi said:
The people of Puerto Rico chose to trade certain voting rights in return for certain tax advantages. Calling that colonialism is an insult to the suffering of those under real colonialism, of which a Spaniard should be intimately familiar. Self Determination is the basic principle against tyranny and that has been upheld in Puerto Rico.
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I aint a Spaniard and my point stands.. just because they have certain voting rights and tax advantages does not mean they are free of colonialism. Only when you are equal or totally independent is when colonialism ends.
 
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Ray410 said:
OK, This explains the reason for the sudden burst of enthusiasm to redesign the American flag in PR:



Why is Obama Campaigning in Puerto Rico When it Can’t Vote for President? (Wink-Wink) « The Constitution Club

More Obama voters, another liberal favored dependency class. Obama didn't go ever there because the PRs were self-reliant Conservatives. They're here to get some of the freebies that the liberals pay to all the Mexicans to vote for Obama.
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FYI: Santorum and Romney both campaigned there too:

Rick Santorum Tells Puerto Ricans To Speak English If They Want Statehood, So Mitt Romney Will Win Puerto Rico
 
PeteEU said:
I aint a Spaniard and my point stands.. just because they have certain voting rights and tax advantages does not mean they are free of colonialism. Only when you are equal or totally independent is when colonialism ends.
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Kinda like Greenland then you oppressive dane :cool:?
 
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PeteEU said:
I aint a Spaniard and my point stands..
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Are is that because you are an ex-pat or because you identify as an Andalusian?

just because they have certain voting rights and tax advantages does not mean they are free of colonialism. Only when you are equal or totally independent is when colonialism ends.
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Colonialism is about a foreign power imposing its will upon another people. The people of Puerto Rico freely chose their status. Forcing them to become a state before they voted on it would have been colonialism.
 
poweRob said:
So you are opposed simply for electorally it might hurt your party some... and nothing else. Interesting way to go about making policies in this world.
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I'm not a republican, but I have no interest in giving the democrats another high value state and I highly doubt many republicans do either. Yes, that is why I'm opposed to them being a state and I personally think its a damn good reason.
 
Henrin said:
I'm not a republican, but I have no interest in giving the democrats another high value state and I highly doubt many republicans do either. Yes, that is why I'm opposed to them being a state and I personally think its a damn good reason.
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You want to stop a US dependency from acheiving full statehood and citizen rights because you are afraid of how they would vote? Not very Libertarian of you Henrin.
 
GarzaUK said:
You want to stop a US dependency from acheiving full statehood and citizen rights because you are afraid of how they would vote? Not very Libertarian of you Henrin.
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Not to mention being a us dependent territory, federal $'s may flow to them but not being a state means they don't pay taxes. So $'s flow only one way.
 
Henrin said:
I'm not a republican, but I have no interest in giving the democrats another high value state and I highly doubt many republicans do either. Yes, that is why I'm opposed to them being a state and I personally think its a damn good reason.
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You disgrace us Libertarians:shock:
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I honestly think people want to add Puerto Rico for the novelty of adding another state, rather than anything really substantive.
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I don't know...I figure tourism will boom there if they become a state. Kind of like Hawaii did. It could be beneficial to everyone. We can't really say things will get worse from this addition:lol:
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
YAY!

Mississippi will have some real competition, in the poorest state of the union. :neutral:
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Then why are we so concerned about Puerto Rico voting Democratic? Mississippi hasn't voted for a Democrat for President since 1976. Which is the only time since the 1950s.
 
PeteEU said:
It will come down to 2 things....

The island will have to be renamed Port Rico and they will have to accept English as their only official language. That will be the Tea Party and their backers that will demand that, and well..
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Why would that be a factor?
 
hawke812 said:
I don't know...I figure tourism will boom there if they become a state. Kind of like Hawaii did. It could be beneficial to everyone. We can't really say things will get worse from this addition:lol:
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They'll have to get their crime rate under control, first.
 
rocket88 said:
Then why are we so concerned about Puerto Rico voting Democratic? Mississippi hasn't voted for a Democrat for President since 1976. Which is the only time since the 1950s.
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I don't care who they vote for.
I just really don't see the big deal, other than the novelty, which is most likely the underlying reason for their further incorporation.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I honestly think people want to add Puerto Rico for the novelty of adding another state, rather than anything really substantive.
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While that would be neat, I'm really more interested in their self-determination. If they want to become a State and fulfill the requirements, then they should.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I don't care who they vote for.
I just really don't see the big deal, other than the novelty, which is most likely the underlying reason for their further incorporation.
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You don't. Apparently it's a really big deal to some people.
 
rocket88 said:
While that would be neat, I'm really more interested in their self-determination. If they want to become a State and fulfill the requirements, then they should.
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Roger dodger.
I see the electorate, regardless of who is elected, as retards, to be honest.
So I don't see the benefit of further incorporation.
 
Just what we need. A borderline 3rd world country becoming a state. They'd instantly become the State with highest murder rate and most corruption.
 
hawke812 said:
I don't know...I figure tourism will boom there if they become a state. Kind of like Hawaii did. It could be beneficial to everyone. We can't really say things will get worse from this addition:lol:
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Exactly. Hawai'i of the East Coast. Like Hawai'i put a Naval base there... shut one down that isn't on our shores and open it up there. All that defense spending that goes to that base will benefit a US state rather than another country. This will increase even more tourism of navy family members coming to visit as well. The military prescence will also be a much needed show of force because from what I understand, Puerto Rico has experienced a HUGE rise in drug related gang activity.
 
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